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Yes - This 100%... Our recent acquisition, is a 8'x20' CNC from Ebay. A large corporation with gov contracts was shutting down a manufacturing plant, they needed it gone asap, we were happy to st

I got this several months ago but it took me a while to create places for the slider fence, miter gauge, blade guard and drawers for saw blades and router bits.  But it is a beast to move around.

I simply cannot imagine the skill and artistry it took to sand this seashore vista.  

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6 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

why 3 spokeshaves?

They have different purposes. And those are mostly "Draw shaves" Spokeshaves have a concave iron and sole.

 The other two are cabinet scrapers.

 There's a bunch of tools in there I can't even name, much less know how they're used, but that jointer's plane on the bottom shelf needs to have a small block put under it. NEVER leave a plane on it's sole w/o a block.

But here's an even crazier cabinet....

http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/wp-content/uploads/studleycabinet1.jpg

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Just now, Mrleft8 said:

They have different purposes. And those are mostly "Draw shaves" Spokeshaves have a concave iron and sole.

 The other two are cabinet scrapers.

 There's a bunch of tools in there I can't even name, much less know how they're used, but that jointer's plane on the bottom shelf needs to have a small block put under it. NEVER leave a plane on it's sole w/o a block.

But here's an even crazier cabinet....

http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/wp-content/uploads/studleycabinet1.jpg

 

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2 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

They have different purposes. And those are mostly "Draw shaves" Spokeshaves have a concave iron and sole.

 The other two are cabinet scrapers.

 There's a bunch of tools in there I can't even name, much less know how they're used, but that jointer's plane on the bottom shelf needs to have a small block put under it. NEVER leave a plane on it's sole w/o a block.

But here's an even crazier cabinet....

http://www.renaissancewoodworker.com/wp-content/uploads/studleycabinet1.jpg

That's the one I was thinking of when I said it would take a full apprenticeship just to learn how to put the tools away.

Look at the depth of the layers of tools stacked in it. :blink:

 

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9 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

That's the one I was thinking of when I said it would take a full apprenticeship just to learn how to put the tools away.

Look at the depth of the layers of tools stacked in it. :blink:

 

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Batteries are stored under the planes?

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15 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Tool cabinets are over rated.

That's what my bench is for...

I'm operating in that space a lot. I try to keep most of them on pegboard or shelves, but lots of tool storage on benches.

It would be a lot easier if I just didn't use them.

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20 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Tool cabinets are over rated.

That's what my bench is for...

My tool chest exploded to fit my shop. Now it holds blankets and sewing stuff, but I still have the four layers of fitted tool storage. Unfortunately, now I need a couple more.

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18 hours ago, Ishmael said:

My tool chest exploded to fit my shop. Now it holds blankets and sewing stuff, but I still have the four layers of fitted tool storage. Unfortunately, now I need a couple more.

I need at least 2 more of the multi-drawer rolling tool chests to clean up some of the benches.

Not saying how many I already have.

FKT

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3 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I need at least 2 more of the multi-drawer rolling tool chests to clean up some of the benches.

Not saying how many I already have.

FKT

That is not a bad thing,….one can really never have too many tools….. or tool chests. 

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23 minutes ago, Point Break said:
1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

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Better yet to have a neighbour with all the arcane shit you don't have room for.

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27 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Better yet to have a neighbour with all the arcane shit you don't have room for.

Old Queensland sleeper cutter's proverb.

"Neither your chainsaw nor your wife should you lend.

Both are likely to be returned fucked"

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2 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

Especially if you have a boat. Who needs ballast if you load all the tools you think (or experience has shown) that you need...

Just finished a productive session on mine and all the tools, wire connectors, heat-shrink etc etc were actually aboard. Miracle.

FKT

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3 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Better yet to have a neighbour with all the arcane shit you don't have room for.

I like being the guy who can say "I just happen to have..."

Of course I'm also the guy who has this hanging in his shop;

 

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9 hours ago, Point Break said:

That is not a bad thing,….one can really never have too many tools….. or tool chests. 

The purpose of the hobby is to collect tools 

 

You can fill in "the hobby" with whatever.

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13 hours ago, RedTuna said:

A tool is what you make of it.

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I am so stealing that idea. 

While back I needed to remove the forestay. No biggie, loosen up the rig, fab up a press thing to pull the forestay forward (so I didn't need to remove the foil, it's heavy), pull the big-ass 7/8" stainless pin out of the bottom, and Bob's your uncle. 

Until the "roll-roll-roll.......splash" sound. 

Obviously, WM does not stock big ass 7/8" pins to hold the rigging together. Job got an additional 4+ hours to drive to San Diego where one could be located. 

This umbrella idea would have saved me. (A third hand woulda too)

 

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3 hours ago, gptyk said:

I am so stealing that idea. 

While back I needed to remove the forestay. No biggie, loosen up the rig, fab up a press thing to pull the forestay forward (so I didn't need to remove the foil, it's heavy), pull the big-ass 7/8" stainless pin out of the bottom, and Bob's your uncle. 

Until the "roll-roll-roll.......splash" sound. 

Obviously, WM does not stock big ass 7/8" pins to hold the rigging together. Job got an additional 4+ hours to drive to San Diego where one could be located. 

This umbrella idea would have saved me. (A third hand woulda too)

 

With my luck the crucial, critical and unreplaceable part would hit the taught nylon, bounce a couple of times harmlessly and then take an unlucky hit on a strut and bounce into the water at a jaunty angle in a way that makes locating it on the bottom completely impossible.

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54 minutes ago, Wet Spreaders said:

With my luck the crucial, critical and unreplaceable part would hit the taught nylon, bounce a couple of times harmlessly and then take an unlucky hit on a strut and bounce into the water at a jaunty angle in a way that makes locating it on the bottom completely impossible.

Put a towel in the umbrella.

When I'm doing a winch in place I drape a towel over the lifelines and across the deck to the winch - it takes all the "boing" out. I've never lost a spring or pawl since I started doing it.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

Put a towel in the umbrella.

When I'm doing a winch in place I drape a towel over the lifelines and across the deck to the winch - it takes all the "boing" out. I've never lost a spring or pawl since I started doing it.

I've got all Lewmar winches. I ALWAYS have a couple complete sets of springs & pawls in a ziploc bag in the storage caddies.

This guarantees that I will never lose one of those. It will be something far more expensive and difficult to replace instead.

FKT

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6 hours ago, Wet Spreaders said:

With my luck the crucial, critical and unreplaceable part would hit the taught nylon, bounce a couple of times harmlessly and then take an unlucky hit on a strut and bounce into the water at a jaunty angle in a way that makes locating it on the bottom completely impossible.

I would almost certainly drop the umbrella in the water and watch it slowly sink out of sight……with the “saved” parts in it.

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4 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I've got all Lewmar winches. I ALWAYS have a couple complete sets of springs & pawls in a ziploc bag in the storage caddies.

This guarantees that I will never lose one of those. It will be something far more expensive and difficult to replace instead.

FKT

Nothing like a drawer full of spares to limit what gets lost.

 

Same goes for a tool collection. Buying a specialised tool guarantees you'll never need it.

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4 hours ago, Snaggletooth said:

When I repacte bearrengs I do it overe a mastere frisbee.                                 :)

Is that to get max distance before it goes in the drink?

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Nothing like a drawer full of spares to limit what gets lost.

 

Same goes for a tool collection. Buying a specialised tool guarantees you'll never need it a second time and it will clutter up the shop forevermore.

FTFY.

FKT

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2 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:
3 hours ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Nothing like a drawer full of spares to limit what gets lost.

 

Same goes for a tool collection. Buying a specialised tool guarantees you'll never need it a second time and it will clutter up the shop forevermore.

FTFY.

I have a Snap-On spoke wrench I bought in 1973 for my E-Type's wire wheels.

Been sitting unused in successive tool boxes since 1975.

It's probably worth something - when was the last time you saw one?

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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I have a Snap-On spoke wrench I bought in 1973 for my E-Type's wire wheels.

Been sitting unused in successive tool boxes since 1975.

It's probably worth something - when was the last time you saw one?

Probably the 12th of Never which is also the last time I needed one.

I just checked an automatic grease dispenser I bought online. The thread is M10 x 1 parallel 60 deg. Not any version of a pipe thread, a metric fine special. Not super-special, but special.

Just ordered a tap, die and a spare tap drill. Because while I can, there is NO WAY I'm single-pointing internal threads in a 9mm diameter hole to a blind shoulder if I have any reasonable alternative.

And after its single use, I expect this tap & die will join its other one use orphan counterparts, mostly BA threads, in the oddball tap collection.

FKT

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1 hour ago, Ed Lada said:
2 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

mostly BA threads, in the oddball tap collection.

Are you still talking about tools or are you talking about this place?  :lol:

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I have a Snap-On spoke wrench I bought in 1973 for my E-Type's wire wheels.

Been sitting unused in successive tool boxes since 1975.

It's probably worth something - when was the last time you saw one?

Hang onto it, you never know...

Last year I met a couple who had just purchased a Catalina 30 a couple slips away.

The Atomic 4 would not run.  i took a look and it had some grotty ignition points.  Went home and dug out the points file and dwell meter i had put away in 1978 as everything after that was electronic ignition or diesel.  A quick YouTube video refresher and I had it humming like a sewing machine much to the appreciation of the couple.

 

You too can be a hero.  Just takes time (and the right tool)..

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22 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Put a towel in the umbrella.

When I'm doing a winch in place I drape a towel over the lifelines and across the deck to the winch - it takes all the "boing" out. I've never lost a spring or pawl since I started doing it.

Or use a big-ass butterfly net.

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Was building a set of steps for a 5-stand this weekend when the retired carpenter consulting put us onto My First Pencil from Ticonderoga and available at Staples.

https://www.staples.com/Dixon-Ticonderoga-My-First-Pencil-Bonus-Pencil-Sharpener-4-Pack/product_640198

 

Suckers are 50% thicker than normal pencils so they do not break.

The also have a super soft lead that makes a highly visible line on wet or pressure treated wood.

Easy to see when cutting with your saw.

Comes with a sharper which is needed as it is too thick for traditional sharpers.

Eraser cleans off lines on the wood you did not mean to draw..

 

Much better than those flat POS pencils you get at the big box stores.

Guy said his grand-kid came home from their first day of school and proudly showed him their first pencil.   First words out of his mouth were "where did you get this?"

 

Suckers are bomb.  Great cheap stocking stuffer for those with buddies who do a lot of woodworking..

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Might as well use a lumber crayon.

 I like a #3 Dixon Ticonderoga, or Eberhard Faber. #2 is too soft. #4 is too hard. "3 Is "just right."

 When lofting I do use colored #2s just because the line isn't that critical at that point.

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I hate pencil marks on wood, they never seem to completely erase. That said, I have an old metal drafting pencil, .9mm and use #2 lead. I use chalk for temporary surface marking, and a marking knife and gauge most of the time for cut lines. 

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On 11/6/2021 at 1:29 AM, Ease the sheet. said:

Tool cabinets are over rated.

That's what my bench is for...

I disagree, in theory.

In practice, when I find that there's no longer space on my work bench to set a Coke, everything goes back where it belongs for a brief, shining moment.

I've known lots of boat mechanics but one still stands out, an old Israeli ship mechanic who was much better suited to self-employment. "J's Marine Diesel Service"

He didn't bring many tools to diagnose a problem. When he returned to fix it, he generally had a small canvas bag containing exactly the tools he would need, no more, no less. And no "Shit! Going back to my truck!" moments. Amazing and would efficiently do the impossible in the tiniest spaces. He told me he'd be out of business if people only took care of their fuel.

So I guess the best tool box I know of is a canvas bag. If you know how to use it.

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On 11/17/2021 at 8:59 PM, RedTuna said:

A tool is what you make of it.

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Great idea, but in my experience the pin/bearing/ring ding/tool that I drop is going to bounce off the fluke of the anchor at an angle carefully calculated to just miss the outside edge of the umbrella. Hopefully your mileage will vary.

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On 11/17/2021 at 8:59 PM, RedTuna said:

A tool is what you make of it.

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Ha!!
 

reminds me of that spring morning stepping the mast with my son.

I had my phone in my shirt pocket and forgetting about it, I leaned over the lifeline for some reason only to hear the “plunk” 

My phone had fallen into the abyss.

 

Without skipping a beat, my son said “don’t worry dad, I’ll find it for you” and with that he took out his cell phone and dialed mine.

we spent the next few minutes watching the display on my phone get dimmer and dimmer as he repeatedly dialed it and we watched it slowly give  up the ghost.

 

A tragedy at the time but now, one of my fondest memories of my son.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol

 

 

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