Gouvernail 3,940 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The once proud GOP has shriveled to nothing more than a few crazed lunatics who believe the lies of their vanquished corrupt incompetent insane leader. It is the party of “ Damn the facts!! I will believe as I choose. Led by corrupt officials whose only allegiance is to the wallets of their donors, Republicans are finally being seen by the majority of Americans as the party of hate, oppression, bigotry, and the seven deadly sins. Voters are fully aware of the endless ARRESTS AND CONVICTIONS of Republican officials as one by one their houses of cards are falling down and their lying, larceny, and anti democracy behavior is being exposed. America is once again becoming a country of which honest people and our neighbors can be proud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Olsonist 3,545 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 They may be proud but what do Republicans have to be proud about since say 1900? If you haven't actually accomplished anything positive and you're proud, that sounds more like entitled to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Did you really pay attention last November? With the exception of Trump - Republicans had a great election. here are some numbers that you clearly are not aware of Do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2021 Sep 1-17 27 69 4 2021 Aug 2-17 28 69 3 2021 Jul 6-21 26 67 6 2021 Jun 1-18 26 71 3 Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 35 62 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Willin' 1,715 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Your chart sure seems to indicate the majority of people are unhappy with Republican obstructionism. Granted, if Joe took off the gloves and shitcanned the filibuster he could get the infrastructure bill passed and probably reverse that polling in short order. I'm just not clear on why so many people are clinging to archaic BS like the filibuster and the Electoral College. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Your chart seems to lack a verifiable link. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 It must be weird being the ugliest cheerleader on the squad. Take your little chart back as far as you want and let us know when the congress ever had a favorable rating. And they had a great election when they lost the Senate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 So we are supposed to accept the argument that, no matter how corrupt a party is, if they have some electoral success. . it's all good ??? If Americans actually knew how much more corrupt the GOPPER Dogballs R-istas are than the Dems, they would never get elected dog catcher or anything else. The media NEVER reports this. https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-times-more-criminal-convictions-than-democrats-1961-2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, badlatitude said: Your chart seems to lack a verifiable link. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1600/congress-public.aspx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remodel 838 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, The Joker said: Did you really pay attention last November? With the exception of Trump - Republicans had a great election. here are some numbers that you clearly are not aware of Do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2021 Sep 1-17 27 69 4 2021 Aug 2-17 28 69 3 2021 Jul 6-21 26 67 6 2021 Jun 1-18 26 71 3 Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 35 62 3 Gerrymandering, passing restrictive voting laws, keeping minorities down even when they are the majority in a district. This is how Republicans "had a great election." They cheat. And you're proud of it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Biden Approval Back Up to 50 Percent After Recent Numbers Showing Him Well Underwater: NEW POLL (msn.com) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Remodel said: Gerrymandering, passing restrictive voting laws, keeping minorities down even when they are the majority in a district. This is how Republicans "had a great election." They cheat. And you're proud of it. Always some kind of excuse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 The Republican Party has been a dead man walking since Newt Gingrich and the 'Contract with America' It is slowly struggling since. Republicans tried in earnest to kill Obamacare for 12 years, and not once offered an alternative in the interests of the American people. After the 2008 financial collapse, Republicans fought tooth and nail against any legislation that would aid the American people. When the opportunity to appoint a Supreme Court Justice landed in Obama's lap, Mitch McConnell exhibited his complete lack of faith in our Democratic process by hypocritically manhandling Garland's nomination. Nothing demonstrates the intellectual bankruptcy of the Republican party more than trickle down economics and its complete slap in the face insult to working Americans. Last, nothing reveals the nasty hostility the Republican party has for the ideals for which this country was founded more than the goosestep they have taken toward Trump Authoritarianism and how they remain silent after the January 6th Insurrection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,429 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, badlatitude said: The Republican Party has been a dead man walking since Newt Gingrich and the 'Contract with America' It is slowly bleeding to death since. Republicans tried in earnest to kill Obamacare for 12 years and not once offered an alternative in the interests of the American people. After the 2008 financial collapse Republicans fought tooth and nail against any legislation that would aid the American people. When the opportunity to appoint a Supreme Court Justice landed in Obama's lap, Mitch McConnell exhibited his complete lack of faith in our Democratic process by hypocritically manhandling Garland's nomination. Nothing demonstrates the intellectual bankruptcy of the Republican party more than trickle down economics and its complete slap in the face insult to working Americans. Last, nothing reveals the nasty hostility the Republican party has for the ideals for which this country was founded more than the goosestep they have taken toward Trump Authoritarianism and how they remain silent after the January 6th Insurrection. None of which matters when 40% of American voters are enough to control the gov't, and that 40% is childish (stupid and gullible) enough to think that a 5-year-old breaking the furniture and shitting on the floor is JUST FINE as long as they can yell to Mommy that it's their brothers fault for not stopping them. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: None of which matters when 40% of American voters are enough to control the gov't, and that 40% is childish (stupid and gullible) enough to think that a 5-year-old breaking the furniture and shitting on the floor is JUST FINE as long as they can yell to Mommy that it's their brothers fault for not stopping them. - DSK Yes, while the rest of us wring our hands over what has gone wrong with this once-great institution, those 40% plot an all-out last-ditch grab for absolute power. Stay tuned for the final chapter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerseyguy 1,712 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Don’t care if the Repubs are in free fall. Problem is that they are taking the country with them. MAGA types think it is just wonderful and the Dems are too busy fighting among themselves to push the agenda forward. After the 2022 elections it might well be a generation before the Dems have a majority in Congress again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pusslicker 664 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, The Joker said: Did you really pay attention last November? With the exception of Trump - Republicans had a great election. here are some numbers that you clearly are not aware of Do you approve or disapprove of the way Congress is handling its job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2021 Sep 1-17 27 69 4 2021 Aug 2-17 28 69 3 2021 Jul 6-21 26 67 6 2021 Jun 1-18 26 71 3 Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Democrats in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 35 62 3 I assume you think this is good. So since your team is "winning" the majority of the country can go fuck itself. By the way those approval ratings for the Dems seem really high. Normally it's like 5 percent. I like how you left the GOP numbers out. You really are a miserable piece of shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, pusslicker said: You really are a miserable piece of shit. That's why he gets like 15 rubels per post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, pusslicker said: I assume you think this is good. So since your team is "winning" the majority of the country can go fuck itself. By the way those approval ratings for the Dems seem really high. Normally it's like 5 percent. I like how you left the GOP numbers out. You really are a miserable piece of shit. Here you go 5 points higher than your hero’s Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 40 56 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,693 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AJ Oliver said: So we are supposed to accept the argument that, no matter how corrupt a party is, if they have some electoral success. . it's all good ??? If Americans actually knew how much more corrupt the GOPPER Dogballs R-istas are than the Dems, they would never get elected dog catcher or anything else. The media NEVER reports this. https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-times-more-criminal-convictions-than-democrats-1961-2016 Indeed!! From your link... We’re aware some of our numbers differ from other totals, but we explain our criteria below. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, The_Real_XYZ said: That's why he gets like 15 rubels per post. LOL. you guys really get frustrated when your usual circle jerk gets disrupted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,693 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Gouvernail said: The once proud GOP has shriveled to nothing more than a few crazed lunatics who believe the lies of their vanquished corrupt incompetent insane leader. It is the party of “ Damn the facts!! I will believe as I choose. Led by corrupt officials whose only allegiance is to the wallets of their donors, Republicans are finally being seen by the majority of Americans as the party of hate, oppression, bigotry, and the seven deadly sins. Voters are fully aware of the endless ARRESTS AND CONVICTIONS of Republican officials as one by one their houses of cards are falling down and their lying, larceny, and anti democracy behavior is being exposed. America is once again becoming a country of which honest people and our neighbors can be proud. I agree with most of what you posted, except for the last highlighted line. So long as we are fully loaded up with dead dumbshit anti-vaxers, and RWNJ's, we will NOT become a country of which honest people and our neighbors can be proud. Millions of people are saturated with RWNJ news sources and believe this false news as truth, they are like a cult! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, The Joker said: LOL. you guys really get frustrated when your usual circle jerk gets disrupted. How much do they pay you for circle jerks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, The Joker said: Here you go 5 points higher than your hero’s Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 40 56 3 Do you replace your pom-poms, often. They sure get a lot of use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 For the record, Congressional approval ratings have been abysmal for some time. And, reelection rates are typically better than 80%. Joker thinks his team isn't actually part of that. If the GOP retakes either/both chambers, he will not want to discuss approval ratings. Bank on that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, The_Real_XYZ said: How much do they pay you for circle jerks? I don’t engage in that type of behavior. Sorry to disappoint. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaxHeadroom 278 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, The_Real_XYZ said: How much do they pay you for circle jerks? Does it have a "Happy Ending"? That costs more..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 2,842 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Willin' said: I'm just not clear on why so many people are clinging to archaic BS like the filibuster and the Electoral College. There’s a chance that the National Popular Vote initiative will be in effect for the next election, which in effect would nullify the EC. https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,429 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, jerseyguy said: Don’t care if the Repubs are in free fall. Problem is that they are taking the country with them. MAGA types think it is just wonderful and the Dems are too busy fighting among themselves to push the agenda forward. After the 2022 elections it might well be a generation before the Dems have a majority in Congress again. You mean, a majority in the Congress of whatever blue states patch together as a country after the USA disintegrates. The next election that Republicans win will be the last election, ever. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 22 minutes ago, Sean said: There’s a chance Not much of a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, The Joker said: I don’t engage in that type of behavior. Sorry to disappoint. Trump had already fixed the state department so it wouldn't have mattered, those people weren't getting out, they were not getting VISAs thanks to trump. No trumper knows what the state department is though, so pretty pointless to explain something like this to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voyageur 528 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, billy backstay said: Indeed!! From your link... We’re aware some of our numbers differ from other totals, but we explain our criteria below. This is interesting. I wonder if someone could dig up pardoned felons by each president? There were a few recently. Is Jaba the Bannon still a free creature? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Voyageur said: This is interesting. I wonder if someone could dig up pardoned felons by each president? There were a few recently. Is Jaba the Bannon still a free creature? Yes, he is busy train his legions of demonic trumpers how to tear down the federal government next time a goober takes control. To prepare for THAT he is training trumper poll watchers to gum up the works to cause the electoral process to fail so the election will get settled in the house. Fill the airwaves with bullshit and the Jokers of this world will decide they like the smell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, badlatitude said: Could you point to any one of the individuals arrested that was charged with insurrection? Thanks in advance I do agree with you that this is not something CSPAN should cover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,620 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, badlatitude said: And the fucker hasn't even declared yet. Bullshit move by C-Span. You'd think Louis deJoy was running it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ease the sheet. 2,285 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 So joker posts a poll where the majority of people disapprove of both sides in Congress and considers that a win? What fucking alternative reality does that idiot live in? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said: So joker posts a poll where the majority of people disapprove of both sides in Congress and considers that a win? What fucking alternative reality does that idiot live in? His team's Congresscritters are despised a little less than the other team's critters. He sees that as a "win". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrleft8 3,550 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Posted 20 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, badlatitude said: Could you point to any one of the individuals arrested that was charged with insurrection? Did anyone accuse them of such? Or is there any indication that any of the C-Span board has been arrested in connection with the 1/6 insurrection plot? No? Then why are you suggesting that this is the case? You just made some beautiful shit up, pulled it out of your ass and threw it at the wall to see how long it sticks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said: So joker posts a poll where the majority of people disapprove of both sides in Congress and considers that a win? What fucking alternative reality does that idiot live in? Not at all I suggest you read the thread title and the OP. There is another question in there that shows something like 80% think their congress critter deserves to be returned and those are the same respondents that give congress low marks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said: Posted 20 minutes ago Could you point to any one of the individuals arrested that was charged with insurrection? Did anyone accuse them of such? Or is there any indication that any of the C-Span board has been arrested in connection with the 1/6 insurrection plot? No? Then why are you suggesting that this is the case? You just made some beautiful shit up, pulled it out of your ass and threw it at the wall to see how long it sticks. No one has been charged with insurrection so far, and the DOJ has not commented so far if there will be anyone charged. The investigation is still underway. You might read Dean Obedeillah's comments again, he accused Trump of plotting a coup and inciting an insurrection, which as far as I know is correct. No one, me included, accused the board of any part of the insurrection. "You just made some beautiful shit up, pulled it out of your ass and threw it at the wall to see how long it sticks." (that's some beautiful self defecation you threw at yourself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, The Joker said: Could you point to any one of the individuals arrested that was charged with insurrection? Thanks in advance I do agree with you that this is not something CSPAN should cover. The investigation is still under inquiry. Patience grasshopper, there will be many arrests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, Ishmael said: And the fucker hasn't even declared yet. Bullshit move by C-Span. You'd think Louis deJoy was running it. Thank you, I agree completely with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remodel 838 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 hours ago, The Joker said: Always some kind of excuse. It's not an excuse. It's the fucking facts. Try to defend that. THEY CHEAT, AND YOU ARE FUCKING PROUD OF IT. What does that say about you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, Remodel said: It's not an excuse. It's the fucking facts. Try to defend that. THEY CHEAT, AND YOU ARE FUCKING PROUD OF IT. What does that say about you? Yep it’s all a vast right wing conspiracy. In order to be proud of something I would have to agree that there is cheating going on. gerrymandering is conducted by both sides. VOTER ID should be required and is not cheating. Closing polling places in minority areas. Which political party holds the purse strings in those same communities. Mail in ballots. Sure as long as they are not harvested. and finally auditing the voter rolls should be an annual requirement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Joker said: gerrymandering is conducted by both sides. Most of the blue states have changed over to independent commissions doing redistricting, the red states are full on with the gerrymandering. Gerrymandering is not the same thing as it use to be, computer and big data generated gerrymandering is way worse than it use to be. This is pretty much a right wing issue these days, you are living in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ease the sheet. 2,285 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, The Joker said: Not at all I suggest you read the thread title and the OP. There is another question in there that shows something like 80% think their congress critter deserves to be returned and those are the same respondents that give congress low marks. On what world does it make sense that those doing a bad job deserve reelection? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 4,225 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Steve Scalise has a point, there wasn't much anyone could do about the pandemic and the ability to faithfully follow the laws of certain states. The point is moot when one considers that if Trump won the election, the same lack of applied law would apply to him also. DUH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, The_Real_XYZ said: Most of the blue states have changed over to independent commissions doing redistricting, the red states are full on with the gerrymandering. Gerrymandering is not the same thing as it use to be, computer and big data generated gerrymandering is way worse than it use to be. This is pretty much a right wing issue these days, you are living in the past. Really most blue states? You really have a great source for Blue Kool Aid Congressional redistricting: Eight states use commissions for congressional redistricting: Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Michigan, New Jersey, and Washington. Seven of these are non-politician commissions. One (New Jersey's) is a politician commission Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Joker said: Really most blue states? I noticed that you most studiously avoided addressing this empirical data - which TOTALLY relates to the OP https://rantt.com/gop-admins-had-38-times-more-criminal-convictions-than-democrats-1961-2016 You get zero respect, senor dissembler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Real_XYZ 259 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 28 minutes ago, The Joker said: Really most blue states? You really have a great source for Blue Kool Aid Congressional redistricting: Eight states use commissions for congressional redistricting: Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Michigan, New Jersey, and Washington. Seven of these are non-politician commissions. One (New Jersey's) is a politician commission There are other formats to do the same type of thing. NY is tossing theirs in the garbage now to counter what is going on in the red states. Ohio also change theirs before it turned into a red state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, The Joker said: gerrymandering is conducted by both sides. Pretty much another of you lies - the R-word-istas gain 20 congressional seats due to their gerrymanderimg. 4 minutes ago, The_Real_XYZ said: NY is tossing theirs in the garbage now to counter what is going on in the red states. Right, the blue states have no choice but to gerrymander the crap out of all the states where they can - in self defense New York, and Cali too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 3,940 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 hours ago, billy backstay said: Indeed!! From your link... We’re aware some of our numbers differ from other totals, but we explain our criteria below. Facts don’t matter to the dying Republican Party. They think voters are so stupid they can do whatever they please. the voters have had it. 99% of Republicans will not hold political office in 2023 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,429 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 hours ago, The Joker said: ... VOTER ID should be required and is not cheating. ... Voter ID -is- required, dumbass. No vote by an unidentified person is tallied, in any state. You're angry about something that is totally fiction. You've been lied to and manipulated. And you appear to like it, and hate those of us who are not fearful and easily manipulated by the same lies. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 3,940 Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share Posted October 11, 2021 Joker is just one of those desperate Republicans who knows his time in leadership is nearly over forever. In his desperate efforts to keep his team relevant he lies, invents nonsense, and works to undermine the function of our government so he can attempt to blame it on others when they fail to overcome his team’s obstructionism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Gouvernail said: Joker is just one of those desperate Republicans who knows his time in leadership is nearly over forever. In his desperate efforts to keep his team relevant he lies, invents nonsense, and works to undermine the function of our government so he can attempt to blame it on others when they fail to overcome his team’s obstructionism. Please. A claim was made that All the blue states have independent commissions to avoid gerrymandering that’s false and I provided a link. Not sure how you have decided I’m somehow in a leadership position in the GOP. Just a citizen that is much closer to the center than the majority posting here. You usually are an honest poster. I guess you too have gone off the deep end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Voter ID -is- required, dumbass. No vote by an unidentified person is tallied, in any state. You're angry about something that is totally fiction. You've been lied to and manipulated. And you appear to like it, and hate those of us who are not fearful and easily manipulated by the same lies. - DSK And as usual your reality is not correct. Using your fingers and toes you should be able to count the states requiring voter ID oh wait you will spin it to say I didn’t say PHOTO. So I’ll amend my point to add Photo ID State-by-state requirements Photo ID required (strict): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas and Wisconsin. Photo ID requested (non-strict): Alabama, Florida, Montana, North Carolina, South Carolina, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Texas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billy backstay 1,693 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Gouvernail said: Joker is just one of those desperate Republicans who knows his time in leadership is nearly over forever. In his desperate efforts to keep his team relevant he lies, invents nonsense, and works to undermine the function of our government so he can attempt to blame it on others when they fail to overcome his team’s obstructionism. Don't count your chickens yet Guv!! The recent voting laws in many states to suppress the minority voter, and other skullduggery may have and effect on the mid-terms, causing Repugnants turning over power in Congress to them. I could happen!! And Millions and Millions of RWNJ's including many Repug Congress Critters, still believe the Big Lie.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, The Joker said: Please. A claim was made that All the blue states have independent commissions to avoid gerrymandering that’s false and I provided a link. Not sure how you have decided I’m somehow in a leadership position in the GOP. Just a citizen that is much closer to the center than the majority posting here. You usually are an honest poster. I guess you too have gone off the deep end. This is why you are little more than a punchline. You can't even get that correct. No one, no one, no one said "All". The very least you could do is accurately state that against which you are arguing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, billy backstay said: Don't count your chickens yet Guv!! The recent voting laws in many states to suppress the minority voter, and other skullduggery may have and effect on the mid-terms, causing Repugnants turning over power in Congress to them. I could happen!! And Millions and Millions of RWNJ's including many Repug Congress Critters, still believe the Big Lie.. Please…. Historically the party not in power - gains seats in the first election year after the other party wins the presidency. Sounds like when or if that happens you are already lining up the exudes. Elections are decided by the middle not the extremes from either party. Independents like divided government Perhaps they are smarter than the rest of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,429 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 31 minutes ago, The Joker said: And as usual your reality is not correct. Using your fingers and toes you should be able to count the states requiring voter ID oh wait you will spin it to say I didn’t say PHOTO. So I’ll amend my point to add Photo ID State-by-state requirements Photo ID required (strict): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas and Wisconsin. Photo ID requested (non-strict): Alabama, Florida, Montana, North Carolina, South Carolina, Hawaii, Idaho, Louisiana, Michigan, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Texas So in other words, what I stated was true... ID is currently required to vote in all states. However, the current requirement allows people with brown skin and poor people to vote too easily, therefor the rules should (according to you) be changed. Reality: there is so little voter fraud in this country that it is almost non-existent. Trumpublicans are trying to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist, for the purpose of tilting elections in their favor. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: So in other words, what I stated was true... ID is currently required to vote in all states. However, the current requirement allows people with brown skin and poor people to vote too easily, therefor the rules should (according to you) be changed. Reality: there is so little voter fraud in this country that it is almost non-existent. Trumpublicans are trying to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist, for the purpose of tilting elections in their favor. - DSK WHICH WAS WHY I DIDNT CALL YOU A LIAR on that post. When the debate rises on ID - PHOTO is what most people are talking about and what I feel is required. The vast majority of the country supports PHOTO ID. Including a majority if African American voters. In fact they usually get offended with the DNC implying they are too stupid to get ID. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: This is why you are little more than a punchline. You can't even get that correct. No one, no one, no one said "All". The very least you could do is accurately state that against which you are arguing. You caught me there school teacher. But in my original response I did say MOST which was the claim. Now if you teach math Do you consider 5 or 6 states most of the Blue states? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Joker said: You caught me there school teacher. But in my original response I did say MOST which was the claim. Now if you teach math Do you consider 5 or 6 states most of the Blue states? Sloppy work there, Jokester. Try to remember that the next time you focus on a detail shared by someone with whom you disagree. I'll let those who took up that argument with you to respond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Sloppy work there, Jokester. Try to remember that the next time you focus on a detail shared by someone with whom you disagree. I'll let those who took up that argument with you to respond. Got it you’re just a stalker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Joker said: Got it your just a stalker. Nah. Just pointing out your careless error in taking a stand against something no one said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Nah. Just pointing out your careless error in taking a stand against something no one said. They did say most as did I. When replying to multiple posters in multiple threads using ALL Instead of MOST on a second post hours later is pretty weak to get called on. I hope you have tenure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pusslicker 664 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 21 hours ago, The Joker said: Here you go 5 points higher than your hero’s Do you approve or disapprove of the way the Republicans in Congress are handling their job? Approve Disapprove No opinion % % % 2020 Feb 17-28 40 56 3 So the same approval rating. Maybe you can get a job as a propagandist with Shitstain. You really are a loathsome creature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,193 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 15 hours ago, The Joker said: Yep it’s all a vast right wing conspiracy. In order to be proud of something I would have to agree that there is cheating going on. gerrymandering is conducted by both sides. VOTER ID should be required and is not cheating. Closing polling places in minority areas. Which political party holds the purse strings in those same communities. Mail in ballots. Sure as long as they are not harvested. and finally auditing the voter rolls should be an annual requirement. You can't have Voter ID at the polling places and Mail-in ballots. Make up your mind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Just now, Raz'r said: You can't have Voter ID at the polling places and Mail-in ballots. Make up your mind. My mind is made up and 80% of Americans agree with me, at least in this poll I think there is a place for Mail in voting, but there needs to be stricter auditing of the voting rolls I suggested annually I do not support only mail in voting I want people more engaged not less Getting off your ass, if physically able should be the first option With early voting there is little to no excuse https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_062121/ At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,193 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Joker said: My mind is made up and 80% of Americans agree with me, at least in this poll I think there is a place for Mail in voting, but there needs to be stricter auditing of the voting rolls I suggested annually I do not support only mail in voting I want people more engaged not less Getting off your ass, if physically able should be the first option With early voting there is little to no excuse https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_062121/ At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this I don't know, nor do I really care how often your local Registrar checks their voter roles. Our county seems to be check every cycle. Every year seems stupid as we only vote every-other. Our great state of California has instituted universal mail-in. I like it. Been voting mail in since about 2000 or so myself. If you want your county to check more often than they do today, why don't you pursue that locally? Can't wait till the Repubs start sending a little old lady to watch me seal the envelope and check my ID. What a maroon the Joke is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Raz'r said: I don't know, nor do I really care how often your local Registrar checks their voter roles. Our county seems to be check every cycle. Every year seems stupid as we only vote every-other. Our great state of California has instituted universal mail-in. I like it. Been voting mail in since about 2000 or so myself. If you want your county to check more often than they do today, why don't you pursue that locally? Can't wait till the Repubs start sending a little old lady to watch me seal the envelope and check my ID. What a maroon the Joke is. Well there you go I really don’t care what the state of California does. There is a reason roughly half the countries homeless live there Not to mention the flight of companies and the middle class Your state is on a collision course for economic collapse how you vote will become irrelevant as to my color - Nope not burgundy either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, The Joker said: They did say most as did I. When replying to multiple posters in multiple threads using ALL Instead of MOST on a second post hours later is pretty weak to get called on. I hope you have tenure. I look forward to you taking issue with a detail. I have no doubt you'll do so. And, I have no doubt you'll dismiss it as "this is different". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,193 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Joker said: Well there you go I really don’t care what the state of California does. There is a reason roughly half the countries homeless live there Not to mention the flight of companies and the middle class Your state is on a collision course for economic collapse as to my color - Nope not burgundy either. Excellent, so stop calling for voter id for us mail-in voters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bus Driver said: I look forward to you taking issue with a detail. I have no doubt you'll do so. And, I have no doubt you'll dismiss it as "this is different". Nope I don’t get into calling Out people on an obvious mistake. Once in a Rare moment a spelling or claim catches my eye. But usually it’s more humorous than an attack on their intellect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Raz'r said: Excellent, so stop calling for voter id for us mail-in voters. I didn’t. The constitution allows each state to set their rules. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 2,839 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 1:53 PM, Gouvernail said: The once proud GOP has shriveled to nothing more than a few crazed lunatics who believe the lies of their vanquished corrupt incompetent insane leader. Problem is that description applies to at least 1/3 of American voters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,429 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 38 minutes ago, The Joker said: My mind is made up and 80% of Americans agree with me, at least in this poll I think there is a place for Mail in voting, but there needs to be stricter auditing of the voting rolls I suggested annually I do not support only mail in voting I want people more engaged not less Getting off your ass, if physically able should be the first option With early voting there is little to no excuse https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_062121/ At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this If you want people MORE engaged, and more participation our democracy (goals I agree with), the you should support mail-in voting. It's the best way to maximize participation of informed citizens. A number of states have gone to all mail-in ballots, and they seem to be doing fine. The problem with at least 1/2 the voters in this country is not "getting off their ass," it's the time pressure of reduce access to the polls and limited time available when they are working 2 or 3 jobs. But that does not fit your preconceived narrative of lazy poor people, so you'll probably reject it. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,900 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Seven states provide automatic mail in ballots. An additional 27 states do not require an excuse. Shirley, they must be rife with fraud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Seven states provide automatic mail in ballots. An additional 27 states do not require an excuse. Shirley, they must be rife with fraud. To you and Steam. I never said anything about fraud. Why do you keep making shit up? My opinion is it leads to less informed voters not more informed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,193 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 49 minutes ago, The Joker said: I didn’t. The constitution allows each state to set their rules. Short term memory loss? Didn’t know you were that old… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Raz'r said: Short term memory loss? Didn’t know you were that old… Where did I say I’m opposed to mail in ballots? Post please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, The Joker said: My mind is made up and 80% of Americans agree with me, at least in this poll I think there is a place for Mail in voting, but there needs to be stricter auditing of the voting rolls I suggested annually I do not support only mail in voting I want people more engaged not less Getting off your ass, if physically able should be the first option With early voting there is little to no excuse https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_062121/ At the same time, fully 4 in 5 Americans (80%) support requiring voters to show photo identification in order to cast a ballot. Just 18% oppose this Why are you creating solutions to problems that don't exist? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,193 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, The Joker said: Where did I say I’m opposed to mail in ballots? Post please. As mentioned, mail-in is incompatible with your desire for voter id at the ballot box. Make up your mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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