Editor 1,240 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 And before you say vaporware, it's legit. Oh, and here's a bird's eye view. Confused? Perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 50 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 A lot of winches on a 30'-ish footer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HypnoToad 75 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The new Decapitator 30 from Squid Game Yachts? 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wemedge 12 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 The next Anarchy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 5,193 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Juan K 30 wiche wille become nowen as 'Wonkey 30' 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tuberider 0 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Editor said: And before you say vaporware, it's legit. Oh, and here's a bird's eye view. Confused? Perfect. Looks like a Ker Design Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGeff 285 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Winch farm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ROADKILL666 534 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 someone's pipe dream Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nota 88 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 if that is a birds eye view your boat is knocked down mast in the water flat birds look down at things from above btw looks like some rule beating race toy unpractical for a live aboard or cruiser so something I have no use for and likely can't afford anyway 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,199 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Editor said: And before you say vaporware, it's legit. Oh, and here's a bird's eye view. Confused? Perfect. The latest in pram designs? And I don't mean baby-buggy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,437 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It's another expensive fragile toy that will neither become a one-design class, nor beat a Melges 32 FB- Doug 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 That coachroof has a Cone style to it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertsa 269 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I really don't know, but I managed to draw more pleasant sheer line to boat when i was 5. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Somebody Else 896 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Pertsa said: I really don't know, but I managed to draw more pleasant sheer line to boat when i was 5. I'll bet dollars to donuts that weird hop up in the shear aft is hiking wings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trevor B 102 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It’s a birds eye view for a Loon, just saying. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rbridges007 7 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 It’s the lastest 30 something with all the most modern superlatives, adjectives and adornments that money can buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fintho 67 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Somebody Else said: I'll bet dollars to donuts that weird hop up in the shear aft is hiking wings. It is; from SA facebook: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
overdraft 44 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 look! a camperized Martin 243… only a quarter century late! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
00seven 430 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 It's clickbait. More fool me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DELETED 208 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 ULD keel foiler? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 1,653 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 23 hours ago, Editor said: And before you say vaporware... Its vaporware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EYESAILOR 1,653 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 A smaller version of the Sydney GTS 37? The drawings resemble the work of Sydney yachts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,502 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Pizza Peel 30... 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gt-MTb 27 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Flow tank prototype? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 13 hours ago, Fintho said: It is; from SA facebook: so a trimaran with lead instead of the 2nd and 3rd hulls? SMH 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 453 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 16 hours ago, Fintho said: It is; from SA facebook: What's SA facebook? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nota 88 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 like the placement of the outboard prop centered under the boat behind the dagger board case but I am unsure if the gas fumes are in a good place even if the prop is in the center with the motor there and raising the motor or sealing the well are big unknowns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fintho 67 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: What's SA facebook? Sailing Anarchy's Facebook page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Morgan Crewed 118 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Wingnuts 10 meter. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snaggletooth 5,193 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fintho said: 4 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: What's SA facebook? Sailing Anarchy's Facebook page Anorthere mythicalle site, licke the home paige.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,603 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Fintho said: It is; from SA facebook: That's lame. There's a much much more extreme boat in like 1980 published ina Marchaj book. What was it called? Mach One or something Cant remember. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,603 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Rasputin22 said: Pizza Peel 30... So we've gone from Pizza Slices to Apizza Peels! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kent H 109 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This looks like something that Rodger Martin would have put together. Actually looks like some of his proposals. Same software, ink and person showing relative size of the boat. His former assistant Ross Weene's work? If not I would guess a really big name in design who did this many years ago. So as the poster who won the very first SA contest my guess is..... Scot got wise and is jumping on the NFT craze. He is going to sell NFT's of the digital design era. Would you like an original Juan K, Mark Mills or Robert Perry? Perhaps your interest is in your new Kevin Dibley LM46? You can't afford the boat but the NFT can be yours! My guess is Rodger Martin 30ish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RATM 69 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 10:50 AM, Mike Hunt said: A lot of winches on a 30'-ish footer. I agree but based on the boom length, I bet there is no permanent backstay therefore, there are runner winches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 1,186 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Moore 30 mk2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The great unwashed 384 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 That looks like fun—inshore and with a life jacket, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,649 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, The great unwashed said: That looks like fun—inshore and with a life jacket, of course. You're still fucked if you're caught underneath it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The great unwashed 384 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 True enough. We lost a kid in a 49er a couple of years ago—his harness snagged on something on the to side of the wing and his crew couldn’t get the boat back over fast enough…. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jhc 173 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Way cooler: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/shape-superyacht-concept-gaping-hole/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The great unwashed 384 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 A lot of super yacht owners are gaping holes….. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPORTSCAR 920 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Everything old is new again. We launched this Elliott designed beast back in 1988. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,603 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 hours ago, See Level said: Moore 30 mk2 That's the one I mentioned way up thread--in MArchaj's book Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squalamax 75 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 12:38 PM, nota said: if that is a birds eye view your boat is knocked down mast in the water flat birds look down at things from above btw looks like some rule beating race toy unpractical for a live aboard or cruiser so something I have no use for and likely can't afford anyway Could be a seagull floating in the waters view. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,603 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said: Everything old is new again. We launched this Elliott designed beast back in 1988. from the same period as the European Lakes boat OPNI. Moore 30 also from then. Which boat was it that capsized in a Mac race a few years back? Wasn't it another winged monohull? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,502 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 hours ago, fastyacht said: from the same period as the European Lakes boat OPNI. Moore 30 also from then. Which boat was it that capsized in a Mac race a few years back? Wasn't it another winged monohull? WINGNUT? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 1,186 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Kiwi 35 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fdsailor 4 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This is Mach One someone referred to earlier...only 40 odd years young! Gordon Trower design. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bohme 2 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Dragonfly Soleri: https://www.yachtbroker.dk/baad/dragonfly--soleri/5328?utm_source=dba.dk&utm_medium=AdManager&utm_campaign=DBA&utm_source=dba.dk&utm_medium=AdManager&utm_campaign=DBA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 wtf is with the offset forward hatch? only doing port rounding spin sets? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Knut Grotzki 158 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 7:21 AM, The great unwashed said: A lot of super yacht owners are gaping holes….. A lot of super yacht owners are have gaping holes….. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 6,528 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Knut Grotzki said: A lot of super yacht owners are have gaping holes….. On their trophy brides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 20 hours ago, fdsailor said: This is Mach One someone referred to earlier...only 40 odd years young! Gordon Trower design. Closer to 50 years I believe. Designed but never built. I believe that was because he was told they would never measure it in under IOR as it was using a blatant circumvention of the rule with regards to the bow measurements. The wings they had no issue with. In fact below is his almost equally audacious Warbird which was built and measured under IOR. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fintho 67 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 9 hours ago, ryley said: wtf is with the offset forward hatch? only doing port rounding spin sets? I mean, if it's designed for Windward/Leeward racing, usually it's port roundings... Most skiffs etc have their chute bags on port Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JL92S 426 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Seeing as it’s just turned into any boat with wings… the Quarter tonner Warbird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Shaw 6 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Here are a couple of 3D images of the boat. I can add detail here as the build progresses 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jono 152 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Hi Rob. Long time no see. How is it different to the Deep Throttle design? Tweaking below the waterline or slightly different concept? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
knuckles 13 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 16 hours ago, JL92S said: Seeing as it’s just turned into any boat with wings… the Quarter tonner Warbird Fun headsail to tack, I'm sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryley 683 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 6:21 PM, Fintho said: I mean, if it's designed for Windward/Leeward racing, usually it's port roundings... Most skiffs etc have their chute bags on port Fair, but I did at least a quarter of my w/l racing with starboard roundings this year. It seems to make the boat into a one trick pony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 411 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, knuckles said: Fun headsail to tack, I'm sure. Ah yes, you tell the kids these days about short tacking a 180% headsail and they won't believe you! Edit: Said in my best Monty Python voice... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliboat 589 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 8:20 PM, Kent H said: This looks like something that Rodger Martin would have put together. Actually looks like some of his proposals. Same software, ink and person showing relative size of the boat. His former assistant Ross Weene's work? If not I would guess a really big name in design who did this many years ago. So as the poster who won the very first SA contest my guess is..... Scot got wise and is jumping on the NFT craze. He is going to sell NFT's of the digital design era. Would you like an original Juan K, Mark Mills or Robert Perry? Perhaps your interest is in your new Kevin Dibley LM46? You can't afford the boat but the NFT can be yours! My guess is Rodger Martin 30ish Rodger and Ross were asked to modify a Kiwi 35. When that boat was lost in Key West, the owners of the boat commissioned a new design that also had wings. Other than that and another design brief for Vlad Murnikov for the MX Next, they really weren’t into wings, unless clients specifically were looking for them. Ross has been Rodger’s partner, not assistant for many years, and after Rodger’s unfortunate passing earlier this year, continues to run the firm. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fintho 67 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 @Rob Shaw can you give us any info on what it actually is/ what its designed for? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Shaw 6 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Jono said: Hi Rob. Long time no see. How is it different to the Deep Throttle design? Tweaking below the waterline or slightly different concept? Hey Jono, it's pretty different to the 30 footers Deep Throttle and Karma Police. this is 35 feet, fixed but lifting keel It. More beam, more crew and more room inside. The fwd hatch is off centre so the prod doesn't get in the way when it's retracted. W/L races tend to be port rounding's and if not then it's a windward hoist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rob Shaw 6 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fintho said: @Rob Shaw can you give us any info on what it actually is/ what its designed for? Hi Fintho, it's a 35 foot inshore boat for harbour, W/L and some coastal races. Foam/carbon construction. Some interior for a weekend away if you like 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Techtoy 13 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 @Rob Shawso how will the vpp stack up against the shaw 11? And most importantly where will it race - will we have a new boat to join the division? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EbbAndFlow 17 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 13 hours ago, Rob Shaw said: Hi Fintho, it's a 35 foot inshore boat for harbour, W/L and some coastal races. Foam/carbon construction. Some interior for a weekend away if you like But isnt that more or less your shaw 10 with an extra meter added and some wing looking structures? Where is the big difference? Do the wings make the difference? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 448 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, EbbAndFlow said: But isnt that more or less your shaw 10 with an extra meter added and some wing looking structures? Where is the big difference? Do the wings make the difference? How to make friends with a designer, suggest that all that goes into a new design is a quick enlarge on the photocopier! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fintho 67 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 1:36 PM, Rob Shaw said: Hi Fintho, it's a 35 foot inshore boat for harbour, W/L and some coastal races. Foam/carbon construction. Some interior for a weekend away if you like Very interesting, ill be following this project... Not that ill be able to afford one any time soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris in Santa Cruz, CA 946 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Is he going to buy an ad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EbbAndFlow 17 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/21/2021 at 5:33 AM, TUBBY said: How to make friends with a designer, suggest that all that goes into a new design is a quick enlarge on the photocopier! Not what I ment. Talked lately to the chief foil designer of AC75 Luna Rossa. Told me some very interesting things aswell as that if you want to change a tiny detail you have to change everything to work good (As its in a lot of engeneering tasks). The question was not engeneering wise the question was sailing wise. Was asking if the sailing is very diffrent or if its close to other boats in this length class. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,603 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 As for little changes cascadeing well, yeah, that is why they pay us the "big bucks" hahahaha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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