Kyle Rittenhouse trial

[SloopJonB 12,560]

Just now, jerseyguy said:

Just now, Bus Driver said:

You don't really think BB is interested, much less capable, of learning, do you?

Some people are incapable of learning due to any number of reasons including willful ignorance

Or to put it more simply;

You can't fix stupid.

[Autonomous 1,232]

15 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

Maybe he’ll go out hunting again and this time he gets a bullet between his eyes.  One can hope!

Classic left wing hate speech.

[Ishmael 10,555]

Not guilty on all charges.

 

[3to1 733]

that's too bad. that dopey right-wing piece of shit got lucky, a year ago and here.

[Autonomous 1,232]

14 minutes ago, MauiPunter said:

Rioters will be armed now since its open season.  This has set a precedent.

They were armed but one was disarmed...

[jerseyguy 1,706]

11 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Seems a bit odd to me but then again, so did the OJ verdict. Juries gonna jury. 

I think I might have figured it out. Ever see a Packer game where the fans are wearing those stupid foam cheese wedges on their heads. Those things must cut off oxygen flow to the brain, thus resulting in the Rittenhouse verdict

[Autonomous 1,232]

4 minutes ago, 3to1 said:

that's too bad. that dopey right-wing piece of shit got lucky, a year ago and here.

More left wing hate speech.

[Burning Man 1,706]

24 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

Now comes trouble.

Pretty sad that our society burns and pillages when the legal system doesn’t deliver the verdict it wants. 

[badlatitude 4,206]

Just now, Burning Man said:

Pretty sad that our society burns and pillages when the legal system doesn’t deliver the verdict it wants. 

Or elections they don't like.

[Burning Man 1,706]

30 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

And here we go.  Verdict is in.  The little monster is crying tears of joy.  Sarc.  He’s pretending to cry again.  No tears.

Stairwells are filling up across the country as we speak. 

[Bus Driver 6,887]

3 minutes ago, chum said:

So do you think you guys can accept the jury’s decision, they looked at all the evidence unlike anyone here. My guess is no, it doesn’t fit your narrative you’ll never accept it.

Who, specifically, is "you guys"?

[Burning Man 1,706]

Just now, badlatitude said:

2 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

Pretty sad that our society burns and pillages when the legal system doesn’t deliver the verdict it wants. 

Or elections they don't like.

I totally agree with that. You make it sound like you think I’m one of the people who think that the election was stolen.

[3to1 733]

Just now, Autonomous said:

More left wing hate speech.

'hate speech'? more disingenuous right-wing bullshit; ever hear the term 'don't shoot the Messenger', you dumb sumbitch?

[Fakenews 1,558]

1 minute ago, Burning Man said:

Pretty sad that our society burns and pillages when the legal system doesn’t deliver the verdict it wants. 

Pretty sad that our legal system can’t be counted on to administer justice.

[badlatitude 4,206]

1 minute ago, Burning Man said:

I totally agree with that. You make it sound like you think I’m one of the people who think that the election was stolen.

Just stating the facts.

[Gangbusters 278]

16 minutes ago, Voyageur said:

I would not want to be in Wisconsin tonight, or ever. I feel for the kid, he fucked up, killed some people. He  will have a tough life.

Congressional intern in the making?

[NeedAClew 1,786]

Kyle can pack for his move to DC for a fun job on the taxpayers' dime, working for Matt Gaetz. Yes, interns cost money. Then Kyle can run for public office back home. 

[Burning Man 1,706]

24 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

yep. Now, on to Georgia.

My prediction is the racist fucks will get the book thrown at then and spend a lot of time in jail. 

[badlatitude 4,206]

6 minutes ago, chum said:

So do you think you guys can accept the jury’s decision, they looked at all the evidence unlike anyone here. My guess is no, it doesn’t fit your narrative you’ll never accept it.

Do you think there is secret evidence shown in the jury room? We saw the same evidence they saw.

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

4 minutes ago, Bus Driver said:

Who, specifically, is "you guys"?

His enemy. 

[Ishmael 10,555]

I'm going out on a limb and making a WAG that within 5 years Kyle will be dead or in jail.

[jerseyguy 1,706]

2 minutes ago, Gangbusters said:

Congressional intern in the making?

Paul Gosar’s kind of guy

[NeedAClew 1,786]

Wisconsin...always knew they had cheese, now we know they have the crackers, too.

[Voyageur 526]

2 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

Kyle can pack for his move to DC for a fun job on the taxpayers' dime, working for Matt Gaetz. Yes, interns cost money. Then Kyle can run for public office back home. 

Nestor will be jealous.

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

Just now, Burning Man said:

My prediction is the racist fucks will get the book thrown at then and spend a lot of time in jail. 

Don’t be so sure. Juries gonna jury. 

[The Joker 539]

I wonder if he personally gets the 2 million dollar bond?  

[Expat Canuck 130]

3 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

I'm going out on a limb and making a WAG that within 5 years Kyle will be dead or in jail.

When (not if) he is brought up on charges for beating his dog/spouse/kid 10 years from now, will any of this be admissible?

[The Joker 539]

2 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Don’t be so sure. Juries gonna jury. 

 

4 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

My prediction is the racist fucks will get the book thrown at then and spend a lot of time in jail. 

Agree.  But if they are found not guilty there will be a lot more people on both sides calling it a travesty.   
 

 

[Jules 2,820]

19 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Not guilty on all charges.

Of course not.  He's a white guy who cried in public.

[Monkey 2,375]

6 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

Wisconsin...always knew they had cheese, now we know they have the crackers, too.

He’s from Illinois. 

[Raz'r 5,176]

15 minutes ago, chum said:

So do you think you guys can accept the jury’s decision, they looked at all the evidence unlike anyone here. My guess is no, it doesn’t fit your narrative you’ll never accept it.

Why would you say that? I've thought it was pretty clear that the law allowed an instigator to "self defend"

I think the law is wrong, but the jury did what juries do.

And while I was a R for most of my life, now, being a share right means I'm way left of the R party, and a liberal from your POV. 

[The Joker 539]

Just now, Jules said:

Of course not.  He's a white guy who cried in public.

Yep that’s exactly what happened.  The evidence, the law none of that mattered it was all about the tears.  
Did you watch him when the verdict was read. Exact same emotions played across his case as when he testified.   

[Raz'r 5,176]

10 minutes ago, Burning Man said:

My prediction is the racist fucks will get the book thrown at then and spend a lot of time in jail. 

facts are similar. 

[Elegua 1,842]

1 minute ago, Monkey said:

He’s from Illinois. 

It's easy for crackers to drive across state lines.  

[AJ Oliver 1,925]

1 minute ago, chum said:

As far as military training I was only pointing out . . . . . Every one of them was intelligent and highly capable. 

Then why can't they win any wars  ?? 

[Mike G 2,232]

16 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

Or elections they don't like.

Or when their team wins.

[jerseyguy 1,706]

3 minutes ago, Monkey said:

He’s from Illinois. 

So close to the state line you can smell the aroma of cheddar 

[The Joker 539]

Just now, Raz'r said:

Why would you say that? I've thought it was pretty clear that the law allowed an instigator to "self defend"

I think the law is wrong, but the jury did what juries do.

And while I was a R for most of my life, now, being a share right means I'm way left of the R party, and a liberal from your POV. 

Wrong the jury instructions stated that if he was seen as the instigator he could not use self defense.  So clearly the jury decided he did nothing to instigate those attacking him. 

[Ishmael 10,555]

1 minute ago, jerseyguy said:

So close to tge state line you can smell the aroma of cheddar 

I thought it was a giant yeast infection.

[Raz'r 5,176]

2 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Wrong the jury instructions stated that if he was seen as the instigator he could not use self defense.  So clearly the jury decided he did nothing to instigate those attacking him. 

cite?

 

[badlatitude 4,206]

1 minute ago, Ishmael said:

I thought it was a giant yeast infection.

No, the giant yeast infection is where you find Warbird.

[AJ Oliver 1,925]

3 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Wrong the jury instruction

How about you apologize and own up to your lies about the folks outside the courthouse ?? 

At long last, have you no sense of decency at all ?? 

[Fakenews 1,558]

1 minute ago, AJ Oliver said:

How about you apologize and own up to your lies about the folks outside the courthouse ?? 

At long last, have you no sense of decency at all ?? 

Decency? Among Trumpaloons?  Have you not been paying attention these last 5-6 years?

[AJ Oliver 1,925]

Just now, Fakenews said:

Decency? Among Trumpaloons?

Right, we call them out on their lies . .  

and rather than address them, 

they merely go on to other lies.  

Bad Faith Bigly 

[The Joker 539]

5 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

cite?

 

Sorry I’m done looking up cites.  It was covered on Friday.  That was the whole point of the prosecution claiming he pointed his gun at protestors which caused Rosenbaum to chase him.  That verbiage from state law was added to the instructions. 

[Raz'r 5,176]

6 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

How about you apologize and own up to your lies about the folks outside the courthouse ?? 

At long last, have you no sense of decency at all ?? 

You've got a point there. 

[RedTuna 1,293]

Not guilty on all counts.

[The Joker 539]

Ok one more 

Jury in Rittenhouse trial can consider lesser charges and whether he provoked attack, judge says

WaPo

 

[Gouvernail 3,934]

New American protestor protocol.

Bring assault weapons and shoot to kill if anyone approaches…

Oops!! That one was coming to join our cause.  Oh well… 

[Bus Driver 6,887]

27 minutes ago, chum said:

If the shoe fits, wear it. 

I am sure you can provide a cite illustrating where I indicate I will not accept the verdict in this trial.

Short of that, you are simply pulling shit out of your ass.

[Bus Driver 6,887]

3 minutes ago, chum said:

I’m not sure you understand what the saying means. It means if the shoe fits wear it. LolIt means if the shoe fits wear it. Lol

Clearly, you don't know the meaning of the word "specifically".

[AJ Oliver 1,925]

4 minutes ago, BravoBravo said:

Hey ! You never said 

I don't generally respond to demands for personal information from 

anonymous fascist trolls 

[nolatom 581]

Who among us has been a juror in a criminal murder case?  

An awesome responsibility.  They try to do the best they can.

I am not inclined to second-guess them.

[The Joker 539]

Good News.  Crowds are thinning outside courthouse.  What WI needs now is a good solid snowstorm with nice cold temps.  

[Raz'r 5,176]

10 minutes ago, The Joker said:

Ok one more 

Jury in Rittenhouse trial can consider lesser charges and whether he provoked attack, judge says

WaPo

 

That’s not saying that he couldn’t invoke self defense, just that the jury could consider it a factor

[The Joker 539]

1 minute ago, Raz'r said:

That’s not saying that he couldn’t invoke self defense, just that the jury could consider it a factor

Nope, WI law states that if you provoke an attack you cannot claim self defense.  That was why the defense tried to keep it out of the instructions. 

[Raz'r 5,176]

Just now, The Joker said:

Nope, WI law states that if you provoke an attack you cannot claim self defense.  That was why the defense tried to keep it out of the instructions. 

Go back and read the law again. 

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

Will there be teams of volunteer medics to keep the peace in the event that people criticize the verdict?

[Gouvernail 3,934]

[The Joker 539]

4 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

Go back and read the law again. 

No need it’s clear that if you provoke an attack you cannot claim self defense. It’s in the law. 

[NeedAClew 1,786]

37 minutes ago, Monkey said:

He’s from Illinois. 

Jury was from where?

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

The jury’s vote was fraudulently counted. They voted for guilty. 

[Raz'r 5,176]

4 minutes ago, The Joker said:

No need it’s clear that if you provoke an attack you cannot claim self defense. It’s in the law. 

You may want to reread this part. Now, you may not agree with it, I think it’s pretty stupid, but it is what it is:

 (2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows:

(a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant.

[NeedAClew 1,786]

48 minutes ago, NeedAClew said:

Wisconsin...always knew they had cheese, now we know they have the crackers, too.

I am referring to the jury and biased judge. 

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

 

[Monkey 2,375]

Just now, NeedAClew said:

I am referring to the jury and biased judge. 

So now you’re insulting the jurors because they reached a decision based on the evidence and existing laws?  That’s pretty sad. Feel free to insult the judge or existing laws, but the jurors were simply doing their job. 

[Raz'r 5,176]

2 minutes ago, chum said:

If we just stipulate that you’re smarter than the judge and jury will you shut the fuck up?

The jury acquitted. Why so much butthurt?

[Fakenews 1,558]

1 minute ago, chum said:

dumb ass meme poster alert! 
oh... wait!

 

2 minutes ago, Monkey said:

So now you’re insulting the jurors because they reached a decision based on the evidence and existing laws?  That’s pretty sad. Feel free to insult the judge or existing laws, but the jurors were simply doing their job. 

Except they did a lousy job.  As did the OJ jurors.

[SloopJonB 12,560]

1 hour ago, jerseyguy said:

I think I might have figured it out. Ever see a Packer game where the fans are wearing those stupid foam cheese wedges on their heads. Those things must cut off oxygen flow to the brain, thus resulting in the Rittenhouse verdict

I dunno - are the Packers so popular that 50% of Americans wear their hats?

[jerseyguy 1,706]

Just now, SloopJonB said:

I dunno - are the Packers so popular that 50% of Americans wear their hats?

One might think so given some of the choices people make

[SloopJonB 12,560]

Am I correct in assuming the judge was a Republican?

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

There goes your straw man, bullshitters. 
 

 

[Mark K 2,321]

3 hours ago, Burning Man said:

It looked to me like he was being chased by the first shitbag.  That seems pretty threatening.  Did you see something different?

After he shot the guy, did anyone else chase him at the scene of the first shooting? Did anyone start chasing him there? If so it's not apparent in the tape. 

[SloopJonB 12,560]

American gun nutters are Through the Looking Glass amazing - a teenager packs a military grade weapon to a riot and that fact is not even under discussion.

If he'd smoked a joint instead he'd probably be doing hard time by now.

[tommays 52]

Every State seems to be different BUT in South Carolina YOU and the WEAPON have to be there LEGALLY or you can’t legally defend yourself legally 

I would say it took quite a few loopholes for him to possess that weapon legally in those circumstances 

[Bus Driver 6,887]

37 minutes ago, chum said:

OK let me chum this down for you a little bit, if the shoe doesn’t fit you don’t have to wear it, see? 
Also I generally don’t read much of what you’re write, so I really don’t know, but I have an idea about but side you fall on here. 

I'll chum dumb it down for you.  You use the words "you guys", but have no idea who they would be.

I doubt anyone will be surprised.

As for where I fall on this, read what I have written in this thread.  You can do a search and limit it to author.

I bet you won't.

[jerseyguy 1,706]

1 minute ago, SloopJonB said:

American gun nutters are Through the Looking Glass amazing - a teenager packs a military grade weapon to a riot and that fact is not even under discussion.

If he'd smoked a joint instead he'd probably be doing hard time by now.

If he had smoked a joint and was a color other than white he might well be dead.

Now that KR has been acquitted it is even more probable that his friend who bought the gun will spend more time in jail than KR.

[WhoaTed 235]

1 hour ago, NeedAClew said:

Kyle can pack for his move to DC for a fun job on the taxpayers' dime, working for Matt Gaetz. Yes, interns cost money. Then Kyle can run for public office back home. 

He’ll undoubtedly pack his “Free as Fuck” tee and bring one along for Gaetz too.

Strike that, he won’t need to pack his, apparently he wears it 24-7: my prime news source, The Onion, reports that after the verdict was read he tore his tie and shirt off, yelled “‘murica, bitches!” and exposed the FaF tee he was wearing underneath. So there.

Next stop: the bar for photo ops and chillin’ with his kind.

[Not for nothing 488]

Makes you want to buy a AR-15 and shot some republican's white boi's cause i feel threaten by them

I guess the Christian 10 commandments are worthless in this Christian country "thou shalt not kill"

I guess the Grand wizard judge just got a new member and he already has a job offer from an up standing person Florida man Matt Gaetz, 

[Bus Driver 6,887]

Just now, chum said:

That’s a good bet.

Clearly, you prefer willful ignorance and painting with overly broad brushes.

No surprise.

[jzk 1,736]

1 hour ago, Fakenews said:

I get that you don’t like the idea of Nazis shooting people in public with weapons of war being shot dead themselves.  

I don’t care. 

I get that you are a piece of shit.

[hasher 1,093]

Just now, jzk said:

I get that you are a piece of shit.

get fucked 

or masturbate

your balls are too full

[Fakenews 1,558]

6 minutes ago, jzk said:

I get that you are a piece of shit.

LOLZ.  A Trumpaloon calling someone a piece of shit.

[Sol Rosenberg 10,148]

18 minutes ago, jerseyguy said:

If he had smoked a joint and was a color other than white he might well be dead.

Now that KR has been acquitted it is even more probable that his friend who bought the gun will spend more time in jail than KR.

If KR was any color but white we would be arguing about why the police officers who killed him were not charged for it. 

[SloopJonB 12,560]

10 minutes ago, hasher said:

13 minutes ago, jzk said:

I get that you are a piece of shit.

get fucked 

your balls are too full

Stop making assumptions like that.

[Patriot 2]

22 minutes ago, tommays said:

Every State seems to be different BUT in South Carolina YOU and the WEAPON have to be there LEGALLY or you can’t legally defend yourself legally 

I would say it took quite a few loopholes for him to possess that weapon legally in those circumstances 

It was legal, thus the gun charge was thrown out.

[SloopJonB 12,560]

6 minutes ago, Fakenews said:

14 minutes ago, jzk said:

I get that you are a piece of shit.

LOLZ.  A Trumpaloon calling someone a piece of shit.

Which is worse - that He's a Trumpaloon or that he makes his living creating junk mail?

[hasher 1,093]