Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Olsonist said: I just got back from Thanksgiving dinner with my sister. She's a doc. One of her doctor friends was there and was a doctor at San Quentin among other prisons. She said life terms for being an accomplice, just hangin' with your buddy, is common. The guy needed to say stop. He needed to call the cops. 'Just' videoing put him in accomplice territory and now he gets a cell with Bubba for the duration. Don't like it? Choose better friends. Make better decisions. He tried to herd the guy with his truck. I agree he is not in the same guilt as the other two. They're all going to wear Orange! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Three shots with a shotgun before he went down. Jeff, did you teach Travis self-defense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 hours ago, jzk said: Let's be honest. The defendant was not a jogger, but rather a criminal. He still has a right to a fair trial and prison vs. being killed. 51 minutes ago, The Joker said: Someone hit the Thanksgiving bourbon hard. Unlike the reaction to the Rittenhouse decision No one, repeat no one is criticizing the jury or their decision in this case. Okay bullshitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 13 hours ago, The Joker said: Did you even watch the trial? bull pucky you liar, that vid does not come close to showing what you claim. . . . just a few irate folks mostly R-wordista rioters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 12 hours ago, Cal20sailor said: I have a BS and MS in engineering from UMich (79,83) Well, nobody's perfect . . Go Bucks !! (And we still have to go sailing . . . ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Mark K said: When they picked up their 2nd Amendment they thought that would protect them. No my friend, they thought that good ol' boy justice would protect them. And they would have been right if that vid had not been leaked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Okay bullshitter. Who is criticizing the jury verdict? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 hours ago, Cal20sailor said: Seriously? You either didn't watch the trial or are the dumbest motherfucker that ever darkened the halls in Champaign. What would his sentence be if he didn't use the camera? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 hours ago, SloopJonB said: JerKZ true colours come out. If he'd been there with his soul brothers he'd now be facing a life term Well if it isn't the biggest piece of shit on the forum. The guy that hopes they make Ivermectin toxic to humans, so that it will harm people with whom he disagrees. I believe he also said that climate change is real, but he doesn't give a fuck, so he drives a supercharged V8. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, jzk said: What would his sentence be if he didn't use the camera? Without the camera in GA? They don't get charged. That should scare all of us. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said: Without the camera in GA? They don't get charged. That should scare all of us. Yep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Okay bullshitter. How’s the hangover? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said: Without the camera in GA? They don't get charged. That should scare all of us. That original prosecutor should be disbarred, as soon as possible. No fucking way she should ever be allowed to be involved in legal matters except as a defendant. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jzk said: Who is criticizing the jury verdict? Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. Include an explanation of how calling the dead guy the defendant is not disagreeing with the verdict. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 hours ago, AJ Oliver said: bull pucky you liar, that vid does not come close to showing what you claim. . . . just a few irate folks mostly R-wordista rioters It shows exactly what I claimed. I stated that the jury in the Rittenhouse case should have been sequestered. I stand by that. The video shows a group of people one with a bullhorn yelling no justice no peace. It was reported that it was loud enough to hear in the court house. The jury was deliberating in the courthouse. The jury left and arrived each day hearing the protestors. They even had an MSNBC producer chase their bus trying to get their pictures. They went home each night and ran the risk of seeing or hearing about the trial. If sequestered none of that happens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. Set the record straight and admit your race baiting rant was based on zero evidence. Bullshitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: That original prosecutor should be disbarred, as soon as possible. No fucking way she should ever be allowed to be involved in legal matters except as a defendant. Already arrested and out. I don’t think she can practice while under indictment. If convicted I’m sure disbarment is automatic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. I actually think the verdict was a bit harsh to the 3rd guy, the cameraman. I still believe 5-7 max but someone earlier talked about mandatories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Joker said: Set the record straight and admit your race baiting rant was based on zero evidence. Bullshitter. Taken right out of a 6yos playbook. Answer the question and then state your issues! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Cal20sailor said: I actually think the verdict was a bit harsh to the 3rd guy, the cameraman. I still believe 5-7 max but someone earlier talked about mandatories. It is harsh at first glance. Then look at the arguments and evidence from the trial to see what the jury had to work with. He was part of the hunt. They used the two trucks to get the guy trapped “like a rat”. Felony assault. Add the dead body and it’s felony murder. Don’t forget that they got away with it at first, just like the good old days…when Murica was great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. Include an explanation of how calling the dead guy the defendant is not disagreeing with the verdict. I agree with the verdict. Remember what they were trying to do. They were trying to arrest a "criminal suspect." I said that the suspect deserves to be a defendant in a trial vs. being killed right there and then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, jzk said: I agree with the verdict. Remember what they were trying to do. They were trying to arrest a "criminal suspect." I said that the suspect deserves to be a defendant in a trial vs. being killed right there and then. No. You didn't say they were trying to arrest a "criminal suspect". You called him a "criminal". 16 hours ago, jzk said: Let's be honest. The defendant was not a jogger, but rather a criminal. He still has a right to a fair trial and prison vs. being killed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, jzk said: I agree with the verdict. Remember what they were trying to do. They were trying to arrest a "criminal suspect." I said that the suspect deserves to be a defendant in a trial vs. being killed right there and then. Do you agree with all of the verdicts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: It is harsh at first glance. Then look at the arguments and evidence from the trial to see what the jury had to work with. He was part of the hunt. They used the two trucks to get the guy trapped “like a rat”. Felony assault. Add the dead body and it’s felony murder. Don’t forget that they got away with it at first, just like the good old days…when Murica was great. I just think he might be a decent guy who was suckered in by two neighbor racists out on a coon hunt. Due to racial biases, how many families have been ruined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said: I just think he might be a decent guy who was suckered in by two neighbor racists out on a coon hunt. Due to racial biases, how many families have been ruined. That’s my take as well, especially it it was true that he didn’t know the two goobers were armed. His life is ruined because he followed the urging of someone who told 911 that his emergency was a black man running down his street. Felony murder is very broad. Once the jury determines that someone committed a felony, as this one did for assault (x 2 for trying it on the other street) and false imprisonment (seeing past the citizens arrest bullshit), they’re on that hook. The lesson is, don’t follow dumb fucks and bullshitters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: That’s my take as well, especially it it was true that he didn’t know the two goobers were armed. His life is ruined because he followed the urging of someone who told 911 that his emergency was a black man running down his street. Felony murder is very broad. Once the jury determines that someone committed a felony, as this one did for assault (x 2 for trying it on the other street) and false imprisonment (seeing past the citizens arrest bullshit), they’re on that hook. The lesson is, don’t follow dumb fucks and bullshitters. Just very sad, but just. A black guy runs past my place, we don't call the police, we call it Monday, Tuesday... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said: Just very sad, but just. A black guy runs past my place, we don't call the police, we call it Monday, Tuesday... I have a boat ramp at the end of my street, so I see black, white and brown folks walking past my house with their fishing or shrimping gear daily. I call it feeding their families. Mostly nice people. It is amazing how decent most folks are when one talks with them instead of chasing them with trucks. Of course there are a few assholes, just like this place. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bus Driver said: No. You didn't say they were trying to arrest a "criminal suspect". You called him a "criminal". Yeah, that too. Where is the factual error? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Do you agree with all of the verdicts? Weren't you supposed to admit your error by now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, jzk said: Weren't you supposed to admit your error by now? I didn’t make an error. Your Bullshitter word games won’t cut it. Do you approve of all of the verdicts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I didn’t make an error. Your Bullshitter word games won’t cut it. Do you approve of all of the verdicts? I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Just now, Cal20sailor said: I do. As do I. Juries gonna jury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,195 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, jzk said: Weren't you supposed to admit your error by now? The error that you defined the victim as a criminal? That’s on you. Might work in Kenosha under a certain judge, but not when a jury sees through it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 There were a shitfull of charges against 3 men in an area known for racism. Well done to the jury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Raz'r said: The error that you defined the victim as a criminal? That’s on you. Might work in Kenosha under a certain judge, but not when a jury sees through it. So many morons on this forum. How did you all find each other? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I didn’t make an error. Your Bullshitter word games won’t cut it. Do you approve of all of the verdicts? You: Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. Me: I agree with the verdict. Looks like you are going back on your word. No surprise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, jzk said: You: Set the record straight by telling us you agree with the verdict and I will admit error. Me: I agree with the verdict. Looks like you are going back on your word. No surprise. I thought you would play it honestly and tell us what you really thought. I admit my error on that point. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I thought you would play it honestly and tell us what you really thought. I admit my error on that point. Now you are just lying. Seems like your word is not worth much of anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, jzk said: Now you are just lying. Seems like your word is not worth much of anything. Okay bullshitter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jzk said: Yeah, that too. Where is the factual error? Jesus. You identified Ahmaud Arbery not only as a criminal, but said he had a "right to....prison". Don't ever fucking let the words "innocent until proven guilty" emanate from your lips or fingertips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Jesus. You identified Ahmaud Arbery not only as a criminal, but said he had a "right to....prison". Don't ever fucking let the words "innocent until proven guilty" emanate from your lips or fingertips. Not directed at you in particular, but in the Rittenhouse case he is still being called a murderer despite the juries decision. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, The Joker said: Not directed at you in particular, but in the Rittenhouse case he is still being called a murderer despite the juries decision. So? I do my best not to engage in behavior I find odious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Jesus. You identified Ahmaud Arbery not only as a criminal, but said he had a "right to....prison". Don't ever fucking let the words "innocent until proven guilty" emanate from your lips or fingertips. Here is the point for the slow people. Let's use a hypothetical. Let's say that there is a criminal running down the street, and citizens want to make a citizens arrest. Well they can't just kill that criminal. That criminal deserves a trial and, if convicted and sentenced, jail vs. death on the spot. How is that? Are you able to understand that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, The Joker said: It shows exactly what I claimed. Just can't own up to your lies can you ?? Outside was a group of several dozen, a goodly number of which were fascists of your elk. https://www.jsonline.com/videos/news/2021/11/17/scene-outside-kenosha-court-jury-deliberates-rittenhouse-trial/8644982002/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,431 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said: 1 hour ago, jzk said: ... ... I thought you would play it honestly and tell us what you really thought. I admit my error on that point. he said "thought" heh heh heh - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: Jesus. You identified Ahmaud Arbery not only as a criminal, but said he had a "right to....prison". Don't ever fucking let the words "innocent until proven guilty" emanate from your lips or fingertips. Arbery was trespassing on camera several times. That makes him a criminal. He has a criminal record too. That also makes him a criminal. He was a criminal. But, even as a criminal, he gets a trial before being punished. He doesn't deserve to be killed on the side of the road by these clowns. But be honest. He wasn't just a "jogger." He was a criminal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, The Joker said: I stand by that. The video shows a group of people one with a bullhorn yelling no justice no peace. It was reported that it was loud enough to hear in the court house. The jury was deliberating in the courthouse. And don't try to change what you wrote, which was this. That there were audible threats to . . "Major mistake to not sequester this jury. They are hearing the threats from the mob that they will burn the town down if he is acquitted small town there has to be some concern by the jury." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I am sure The Joker is happy you've come to his aid. Remind me when Arbery was tried for trespassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 911 what is your emergency? there’s a black man running down the street. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: I am sure The Joker is happy you've come to his aid. Remind me when Arbery was tried for trespassing. He wasn't because these assholes killed him. But he is on video. If he is on video trespassing, then it is ok to say he is a criminal. However, it is not ok for the government to punish him until they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty. Do you see the difference? There is no such requirement here on an internet forum. We can just view the video and say he was trespassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: 911 what is your emergency? there’s a black man running down the street. This is the misrepresentation. He wasn't just a law abiding citizen going for a jog and then 3 people killed him because he was a black person in their neighborhood. He was seen on video trespassing, so these three decided they would "arrest" him and in doing so they killed him which is murder, and they were so convicted of such. But why the need to misrepresent the facts of the case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, jzk said: This is the misrepresentation. He wasn't just a law abiding citizen going for a jog and then 3 people killed him because he was a black person in their neighborhood. He was seen on video trespassing, so these three decided they would "arrest" him and in doing so they killed him which is murder, and they were so convicted of such. But why the need to misrepresent the facts of the case? Perhaps if you had watched the trial you would have heard the 911 call that Greggy Reb made. You might not want to hear it, but the jury did https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/582968-arbery-jury-asks-to-see-videos-hear-911-call Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,904 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, jzk said: He wasn't because these assholes killed him. But he is on video. If he is on video trespassing, then it is ok to say he is a criminal. However, it is not ok for the government to punish him until they prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty. Do you see the difference? There is no such requirement here on an internet forum. We can just view the video and say he was trespassing. The police officer who was looking for him was going to give him a warning. He sure didn't feel the need to label Mr. Arbery a criminal, like you and The Joker do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Bus Driver said: The police officer who was looking for him was going to give him a warning. He sure didn't feel the need to label Mr. Arbery a criminal, like you and The Joker do. Do cops often give people warnings for not committing crimes? Just because he was a criminal doesn't mean he should be hunted down and killed. But, he wasn't just a law abiding citizen going out for a jog. So why the need to tell that lie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,195 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, jzk said: Here is the point for the slow people. Let's use a hypothetical. Let's say that there is a criminal running down the street, and citizens want to make a citizens arrest. Well they can't just kill that criminal. That criminal deserves a trial and, if convicted and sentenced, jail vs. death on the spot. How is that? Are you able to understand that? So why do you label the victim, a criminal? There was no evidence these vigilantes could point to, hence they are in jail. Why do you continue the fiction? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,195 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, jzk said: Arbery was trespassing on camera several times. That makes him a criminal. He has a criminal record too. That also makes him a criminal. He was a criminal. But, even as a criminal, he gets a trial before being punished. He doesn't deserve to be killed on the side of the road by these clowns. But be honest. He wasn't just a "jogger." He was a criminal. The jury disagrees with your racist conclusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,630 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Raz'r said: 55 minutes ago, jzk said: Here is the point for the slow people. Let's use a hypothetical. Let's say that there is a criminal running down the street, and citizens want to make a citizens arrest. Well they can't just kill that criminal. That criminal deserves a trial and, if convicted and sentenced, jail vs. death on the spot. How is that? Are you able to understand that? So why do you label the victim, a criminal? There was no evidence these vigilantes could point to, hence they are in jail. Why do you continue the fiction? He is either very obtuse, or very stupid, or a blatant racist, or a combination of all three. He seems to be a disgusting human being. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,195 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 37 minutes ago, jzk said: This is the misrepresentation. He wasn't just a law abiding citizen going for a jog and then 3 people killed him because he was a black person in their neighborhood. He was seen on video trespassing, so these three decided they would "arrest" him and in doing so they killed him which is murder, and they were so convicted of such. But why the need to misrepresent the facts of the case? Another lie for the Win! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Raz'r said: So why do you label the victim, a criminal? There was no evidence these vigilantes could point to, hence they are in jail. Why do you continue the fiction? The jury called it false imprisonment, a felony that formed the basis of the felony murder convictions. But don’t worry, our bullshitters agree with the jury on all of the verdicts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,195 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: The jury called it false imprisonment, a felony that formed the basis of the felony murder convictions. But don’t worry, our bullshitters agree with the jury on all of the verdicts. I think this particular bullshitter is bullshittin so hard, as this case is another example of the failure of the libertarian ideal of people being responsible for their own policing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Raz'r said: I think this particular bullshitter is bullshittin so hard, as this case is another example of the failure of the libertarian ideal of people being responsible for their own policing. It wasn’t long ago that this murder would not have raised an eyebrow. Hell, the original prosecutor is facing charges stemming from this case because she tried to make it go away. Had the idiots not released the video she would have succeeded. LBJ was spot on with his lowest white man quote. We see several of them here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said: 911 what is your emergency? there’s a black man running down the street. You just have to lead them a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, Raz'r said: So why do you label the victim, a criminal? There was no evidence these vigilantes could point to, hence they are in jail. Why do you continue the fiction? That is not anywhere near true. Even though he was a criminal, they cant kill him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: The jury called it false imprisonment, a felony that formed the basis of the felony murder convictions. But don’t worry, our bullshitters agree with the jury on all of the verdicts. How is it mutually exclusive? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 2,843 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, jzk said: That is not anywhere near true. Even though he was a criminal, they cant kill him. Is this why you keep calling the victim a “criminal”? Have you ever checked out a construction site out of curiosity? I certainly have. Guess I must be a criminal. So shoot me. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/us/ahmaud-arbery-wednesday-surveillance-video/index.html Excerpt - (CNN)The owner of a home under construction in the Georgia neighborhood where Ahmaud Arbery was killed says he had reported no crime after surveillance video seemed to show the young man on the property. The February 23 footage, captured moments before Arbery's death, appears to show him looking around but never touching anything -- and eventually, walking away. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Sean said: Is this why you keep calling the victim a “criminal”? Have you ever checked out a construction site out of curiosity? I certainly have. Guess I must be a criminal. So shoot me. https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/us/ahmaud-arbery-wednesday-surveillance-video/index.html Excerpt - (CNN)The owner of a home under construction in the Georgia neighborhood where Ahmaud Arbery was killed says he had reported no crime after surveillance video seemed to show the young man on the property. The February 23 footage, captured moments before Arbery's death, appears to show him looking around but never touching anything -- and eventually, walking away. Well maybe you are. But if so, you don't deserve to be killed either. And maybe you have a criminal record like he does. Still don't deserve to be killed. I don't know why this is so hard. Even if he wasn't just a neighborly jogger, he still doesn't deserve to get killed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 2,843 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, jzk said: Well maybe you are. But if so, you don't deserve to be killed either. And maybe you have a criminal record like he does. Still don't deserve to be killed. I don't know why this is so hard. Even if he wasn't just a neighborly jogger, he still doesn't deserve to get killed. Do yourself a favor; stop referring to the victim as “criminal” for being curious about an inactive construction site. It’s getting old. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sean said: Do yourself a favor; stop referring to the victim as “criminal” for being curious about an inactive construction site. It’s getting old. The point here is that even criminals don't deserve to just get hunted down and shot. Why did they have a camera at the construction site? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,609 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sean said: Do yourself a favor; stop referring to the victim as “criminal” for being curious about an inactive construction site. It’s getting old. He would need a lot of favours to even attain the intellect of a clam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 30 minutes ago, jzk said: How is it mutually exclusive? I have no doubt that you would like to have it both ways, but it is enough that you agree with the jury that it was false imprisonment, not citizens arrest. The rest is pablum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sean 2,843 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, jzk said: Why did they have a camera at the construction site? Would have come in handy if Arbery was a thief rather than a curious jogger no? Come to think of it, I have a couple cameras at my house. When I was a contractor, I always had a camera on site. Your horse is dead. You can stop beating it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: I have no doubt that you would like to have it both ways, but it is enough that you agree with the jury that it was false imprisonment, not citizens arrest. The rest is pablum. The point, dipshit, is that you can't just hunt down criminals and kill them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sean said: Would have come in handy if Arbery was a thief rather than a curious jogger no? Come to think of it, I have a couple cameras at my house. When I was a contractor, I always had a camera on site. Your horse is dead. You can stop beating it now. Yeah, I have cameras as well, and it is not to protect myself from "joggers." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,187 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, jzk said: The point, dipshit, is that you can't just hunt down criminals and kill them. Look at those goalposts move! That wasn’t what the jury decided, Sooper Genius. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jzk said: That is not anywhere near true. Even though he was a criminal, they cant kill him. What crime? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cal20sailor 3,481 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 44 minutes ago, jzk said: Yeah, I have cameras as well, and it is not to protect myself from "joggers." Voyeur...didn't see that one coming. A++++++ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,735 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Look at those goalposts move! That wasn’t what the jury decided, Sooper Genius. Which of the verdicts said he wasn't a criminal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, AJ Oliver said: Just can't own up to your lies can you ?? Outside was a group of several dozen, a goodly number of which were fascists of your elk. https://www.jsonline.com/videos/news/2021/11/17/scene-outside-kenosha-court-jury-deliberates-rittenhouse-trial/8644982002/ What lies asshole? Your video confirms exactly what I said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Bus Driver said: I am sure The Joker is happy you've come to his aid. Remind me when Arbery was tried for trespassing. Why are you bringing me into this conversation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, AJ Oliver said: And don't try to change what you wrote, which was this. That there were audible threats to . . "Major mistake to not sequester this jury. They are hearing the threats from the mob that they will burn the town down if he is acquitted small town there has to be some concern by the jury." Correct where is the lie. “No justice! No Peace! “. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Bus Driver said: The police officer who was looking for him was going to give him a warning. He sure didn't feel the need to label Mr. Arbery a criminal, like you and The Joker do. WTF. I never said anything like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Joker said: Correct where is the lie. “No justice! No Peace! “. You evil-assed jerk face . . "No justice! No peace" is not the same as . . threats from the mob that they will burn the town down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Joker 540 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 minute ago, AJ Oliver said: You evil-assed jerk face . . "No justice! No peace" is not the same as . . threats from the mob that they will burn the town down If you lived there what do you think no peace would mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,560 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said: 911 what is your emergency? there’s a black man running down the street. I think you proved Jerkz’s point. That’s a crime in that neighborhood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Joker said: If you lived there what do you think no peace would mean? keep digging . . . at the marches I have attended, which have been many, "no justice, no peace" means non-violent direct action. You liar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,560 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, jzk said: Yeah, I have cameras as well, and it is not to protect myself from "joggers." We know. It’s to protect you from “the blacks”. SAD! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,560 Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 Jerkz is not alone in his hatred of “the blacks”. Most of the GOP think that way. https://www.mediaite.com/news/arbery-killers-guilty-poll-republicans-democrats/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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