roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Jury selection Tuesday. Who's shirts and who's skins? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Meanwhile back in Chappaqua, NY "how the fuck did she last this long.. I gave you one fucking job Bill and you fucked it up.." String the bitch up.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, Ventucky Red said: Meanwhile back in Chappaqua, NY "how the fuck did she last this long.. I gave you one fucking job Bill and you fucked it up.." String the bitch up.. Ok ok, we’ve got a Clinton sighting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, roundthebuoys said: Jury selection Tuesday. Who's shirts and who's skins? We are going to need an unbiased legal opinion from someone who would never ever ever never put his opinion up for the highest bidder. A Professor would be best. Where’s Dershowitz? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,648 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, roundthebuoys said: Jury selection Tuesday. Who's shirts and who's skins? It won't matter, Hillary will have killed them all by then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Maxwell didn't kill herself. Too soon? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 479 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said: A Professor would be best @AJ Oliver? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrleft8 3,553 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Lawrence Tribe. I imagine Gislaine will be convicted, and serve 10 years..... Perhaps house arrest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said: @AJ Oliver? You called ?? Whatever you are asking about - I can assure you that it is not legal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,198 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Not sure what "Sides" are involved here. Is someone in favor of pedophiles and their traffickers? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Raz'r said: Not sure what "Sides" are involved here. Is someone in favor of pedophiles and their traffickers? I hope not, but trials seem to bring out the worst in some people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Navig8tor 1,779 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Must be a few well connected people getting a little twitchy right about now considering Ghislaine was supplying the twat. I’m guessing an undisclosed settlement with the girl that enjoyed a good time and screwing some very famous people, Ghis gets time served and an undiscovered Cayman bank account that has mysteriously grown enormously in the last few years,,,,,,,, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Raz'r said: Not sure what "Sides" are involved here. Is someone in favor of pedophiles and their traffickers? No, but you can count on some piece of shit trying to use a guilt by association fallacy to paint his enemies with that broad brush. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 793 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Navig8tor said: Must be a few well connected people getting a little twitchy right about now considering Ghislaine was supplying the twat. I’m guessing an undisclosed settlement with the girl that enjoyed a good time and screwing some very famous people, Ghis gets time served and an undiscovered Cayman bank account that has mysteriously grown enormously in the last few years,,,,,,,, With what happened to Epstein, I suspect Ghislaine will keep her mouth shut and the money appearing in her account will come from Mossad.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I can't imagine she will have one day in the rest of her life where she isn't waiting for a bullet or some cyanide in the french fries. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 12 hours ago, roundthebuoys said: Ok ok, we’ve got a Clinton sighting. What's up with Hillary? Is she getting old and lazy? You would think she would have had Ghislaine killed at least 12 times by now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said: I can't imagine she will have one day in the rest of her life where she isn't waiting for a bullet or some cyanide in the french fries. I think whoever does the dirty deed, it will be a lot more brutal than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ventucky Red said: I think whoever does the dirty deed, it will be a lot more brutal than that. Nah, it will be outsourced to a professional who will do something low key. She'll just be face down in the soup or maybe nailed to a perch pining for the fjords. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Have we established the teams yet? Who’s for acquittal, Americans or Liberals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Have we established the teams yet? Who’s for acquittal, Americans or Liberals? Depends on whether she implicates a Clinton or a Trump. If it's both, many people's heads will explode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Have we established the teams yet? Who’s for acquittal, Americans or Liberals? Why does it have to be one or the other? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nice! said: It depends on whether she implicates a Clinton or a Trump. If it's both, many people's heads will explode. And that will be a shit load of fun to watch. I wonder who the two of them will take down with them with the ship starts to sink. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voyageur 528 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 How many of the young girls were recruited from Mar-A-Gogo? At least one, that I have read about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voyageur 528 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Voyageur said: How many of the young girls were recruited from Mar-A-Gogo? At least one, that I have read about. Not sticking up for fucknuts, but didn't the alleged victim drop the suit and never filed charges? Wasn't there someone here a few years back share a "tale of wo" about getting arrested for having sex with a 16-year-old he met at a bar or something like that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Voyageur said: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/09/epstein-mar-a-lago-trump-1456221 Oh yea this one....... what was the outcome of this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voyageur 528 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ventucky Red said: Not sticking up for fucknuts, but didn't the alleged victim drop the suit and never filed charges? Wasn't there someone here a few years back share a "tale of wo" about getting arrested for having sex with a 16-year-old he met at a bar or something like that? the result was a payoff that was large enough for a girl from west palm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voyageur 528 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ventucky Red said: Not sticking up for fucknuts, but didn't the alleged victim drop the suit and never filed charges? Wasn't there someone here a few years back share a "tale of wo" about getting arrested for having sex with a 16-year-old he met at a bar or something like that? matt gayetz? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Ventucky Red said: Why does it have to be one or the other? Because it ALWAYS is. That doesn't answer why, sorry. 1 hour ago, Nice! said: Depends on whether she implicates a Clinton or a Trump. If it's both, many people's heads will explode. I think I read somewhere that Dabnis just died recently from a common form of cognitive dissonance. Sad really, the article said the picture of the punk vigilante carrying an AR15 but wearing his hat backwards was too much for him to handle in his old age. RIP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,615 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said: Nah, it will be outsourced to a professional who will do something low key. She'll just be face down in the soup or maybe nailed to a perch pining for the fjords. If I was her I'd give up yachting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: If I was her I'd give up yachting. Unless the UK convicts her too and sends her to Australia by boat, I am thinking not a lot of yachting in her future. * is that still a thing or does Australia have enough convicts of their own? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Left Shift 3,623 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Navig8tor said: Must be a few well connected people getting a little twitchy right about now considering Ghislaine was supplying the twat. I’m guessing an undisclosed settlement with the girl that enjoyed a good time and screwing some very famous people, Ghis gets time served and an undiscovered Cayman bank account that has mysteriously grown enormously in the last few years,,,,,,,, So, you are calling a sex-trafficked teenager a "girl that enjoyed a good time"? What the FUCK? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Left Shift said: So, you are calling a sex-trafficked teenager a "girl that enjoyed a good time"? What the FUCK? I believe the appropriate term is underaged rape-victim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Left Shift 3,623 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 33 minutes ago, Nice! said: I believe the appropriate term is underaged rape-victim. True. The number of statutes that Epstein/Maxwell violated would probably cover a page or two of the indictment. But rape is the over-riding crime. But it seems we haven't entirely left behind the era of "Why not just lay back and enjoy it?" era of addressing victims of rape. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike G 2,241 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Left Shift said: True. The number of statutes that Epstein/Maxwell violated would probably cover a page or two of the indictment. But rape is the over-riding crime. But it seems we haven't entirely left behind the era of "Why not just lay back and enjoy it?" era of addressing victims of rape. Much like the "she slept her way to the top" being some kind of an insult to woman. But the men that gave things of value for sexual favors get a pass. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Mike G said: Much like the "she slept her way to the top" being some kind of an insult to woman. But the men that gave things of value for sexual favors get a pass. Not all of them. If there is any justice in the world, Harvey Weinstein has had his sigmoid colon turned into a ghis lane. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Left Shift said: So, you are calling a sex-trafficked teenager a "girl that enjoyed a good time"? What the FUCK? My music business brother tells me many a tale of underage girls trying to get backstage at a concert and some of the shit they have pulled - with one goal in mind. I know, not the same, nor excusable either, and I hope she gets a bullet through the head after she spills all the beans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,198 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ventucky Red said: My music business brother tells me many a tale of underage girls trying to get backstage at a concert and some of the shit they have pulled - with one goal in mind. I know, not the same, nor excusable either, and I hope she gets a bullet through the head after she spills all the beans. The whole point of having an age of majority is that we KNOW they don't make good decisions. Our job as adult humans, is to not take advantage of it. Rock stars, the boss at the local grocery store or boba joint, politicians and just the standard "they let you grab them by the pussy" celebrities. It doesn't matter what the kid wanted. He/She is a kid. If you're suckered in by a kid because of lack of blood flow to the brain due to blood flow to the other head? Well, I've no sympathy for you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Burning Man 1,728 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Nice! said: I believe the appropriate term is underaged rape-victim. So what IS the appropriate age to be a rape victim? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Burning Man said: So what IS the appropriate age to be a rape victim? Not funny. A rape victim is either underage or not. Either way they are a rape victim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Not all of them. If there is any justice in the world, Harvey Weinstein has had his sigmoid colon turned into a ghis lane. Underrated post Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Raz'r said: The whole point of having an age of majority is that we KNOW they don't make good decisions. Our job as adult humans, is to not take advantage of it. Rock stars, the boss at the local grocery store or boba joint, politicians and just the standard "they let you grab them by the pussy" celebrities. It doesn't matter what the kid wanted. He/She is a kid. If you're suckered in by a kid because of lack of blood flow to the brain due to blood flow to the other head? Well, I've no sympathy for you. I was trying to find the post of the guy that posted here about meeting a girl in a bar and finding out she was underage when the police showed up to arrest him. How are you supposed to know? Some of these kids grow up pretty quick... Again, this does not justify what these people did and they should hang for it, after they are beaten with a lead pipe, and burned with acid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,615 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said: Unless the UK convicts her too and sends her to Australia by boat, I am thinking not a lot of yachting in her future. * is that still a thing or does Australia have enough convicts of their own? Was her father so long ago that it's no longer a valid reference? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Navig8tor 1,779 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Left Shift said: So, you are calling a sex-trafficked teenager a "girl that enjoyed a good time"? What the FUCK? Spare me the faux outrage lefty I’m betting it weren’t this victims first rodeo. 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Navig8tor said: Spare me the faux outrage lefty I’m betting it weren’t this victims first rodeo. You're disgusting. She was underage. That means it's rape. There's no grey area here. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike G 2,241 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Navig8tor said: Spare me the faux outrage lefty I’m betting it weren’t this victims first rodeo. It's weird. My first instinct isn't to call underage rape a 'rodeo.' And it's also not my place to 'bet' on shit I know nothing about. Those are words of enablers. Be part of the solution, not more of the problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain Man 1,979 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Ventucky Red said: My music business brother tells me many a tale of underage girls trying to get backstage at a concert and some of the shit they have pulled - with one goal in mind. I know, not the same, nor excusable either, and I hope she gets a bullet through the head after she spills all the beans. As a pro touring rock musician BITD it was considered disgusting behaviour to get it on with jailbait groupies. In reality, with one exception, none of the band members or roadies that I associated with would ever have considered it. The most these young ladies ever got out of us was maybe an illegal drink. Did it ever happen? One band I was in fired a keyboard player because we had good reason to believe he was doing this, plus a bunch of other very sketchy stuff, but that is the only exception I remember. The Canadian band Hedley had some accusations of members getting involved with young women and it destroyed the band, with good reason IMHO. You should ask your brother how often they are successful. These young ladies like the idea of being associated with famous and/or talented and/or alternative lifestyle people and getting some attention from them. They are impressionable and vulnerable, and anyone who takes advantage of them is a sick fuck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 793 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, Nice! said: You're disgusting. She was underage. That means it's rape. There's no grey area here. Legally she was not under age, the age of consent in the UK is 16, she herself claims she was 17 in the UK when the event with Prince Andrew occured. So in the UK no crime was committed... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nice! 1,279 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Q said: Legally she was not under age, the age of consent in the UK is 16, she herself claims she was 17 in the UK when the event with Prince Andrew occured. So in the UK no crime was committed... They allegedly had sex in London, New York, and in the US Virginia Islands. Flight records show they were in all three places at the same time. Also, she claims she was pressured into having sex with Prince Andrew under threat of being "killed or abducted" by Epstien's contacts. Why do you defend pedos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Navig8tor 1,779 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Not defending pedos or even enabling them, the cynic in me thinks she was a willing participant and with the passage of time and Epstein justifiably meeting his doom combined with the metoo movement and Ghislaine locked up where she’s not a threat, I think there maybe an opportunity to get a nice retirement fund settlement. Did Epstein and Ghislaine manipulate? Almost certainly but these girls were certainly enthralled with the Jetset life until they weren’t young enough for the sick fucks like Dershow mine and you show me yours. There is a list of twisted wealthy connected that should be answerable but won’t because money and power- that law and order thing works best when you have lots of cash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,198 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Navig8tor said: Not defending pedos or even enabling them, the cynic in me thinks she was a willing participant and with the passage of time and Epstein justifiably meeting his doom combined with the metoo movement and Ghislaine locked up where she’s not a threat, I think there maybe an opportunity to get a nice retirement fund settlement. Did Epstein and Ghislaine manipulate? Almost certainly but these girls were certainly enthralled with the Jetset life until they weren’t young enough for the sick fucks like Dershow mine and you show me yours. There is a list of twisted wealthy connected that should be answerable but won’t because money and power- that law and order thing works best when you have lots of cash. Underage means unwilling. End of. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 793 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Nice! said: They allegedly had sex in London, New York, and in the US Virginia Islands. Flight records show they were in all three places at the same time. Also, she claims she was pressured into having sex with Prince Andrew under threat of being "killed or abducted" by Epstien's contacts. Why do you defend pedos? So you were a pedo when you had wandering hands with a girl of 16 or 17? ps you make the accusation against Prince Andrew with no evidence other than a Photo together, with all the publicity in the press the Police and lawyers calls for for other women to come forward not one has... when normally in the they come out of the woodwork all over the place. I suspect that this is a lawyers attempt to make lots of money and the woman has been told she will too.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,615 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 57 minutes ago, Navig8tor said: Not defending pedos or even enabling them, the cynic in me thinks she was a willing participant and with the passage of time and Epstein justifiably meeting his doom combined with the metoo movement and Ghislaine locked up where she’s not a threat, I think there maybe an opportunity to get a nice retirement fund settlement. Did Epstein and Ghislaine manipulate? Almost certainly but these girls were certainly enthralled with the Jetset life until they weren’t young enough for the sick fucks like Dershow mine and you show me yours. There is a list of twisted wealthy connected that should be answerable but won’t because money and power- that law and order thing works best when you have lots of cash. You sound just like the pedo's and enablers, even some judges, who talk about how prepubescent girls "seduced them". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Navig8tor 1,779 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Oh FFS Sloop I’m saying nothing of the sort, refer to The Q post-she wasn’t underage. Quitting this thread-had a long day putting Antifoul on the Boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 793 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 if I've counted correctly, in 42 US states, Canada plus the UK what Prince Andrew may or may not have done, was legal. So unless you are going to tattoo dates of birth on foreheads with a list of ages of consent of everywhere. Then such claims as he was a peado, with a willing (to him) girl, who looks much older is wrong.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Happy 1,706 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 All the pics I've seen of Ms. Giuffre (with Andrew, Bill C, the late Jeffrey, and more) show a smiling girl who looks thrilled to be there. Seventeen is one year over the age of consent in most civilized countries. So the rich old guys who fucked her are not pedophiles, nor were they committing statutory rape. However, they are disgusting sleazy sick fucks. Being rich and important means they will probably get away with it. Ghislaine might walk unless there is evidence of girls under 16 being procured, or girls of any age being forced or coerced into sex. There is probably a lot of quiet negotiation going on about the price of her silence and control of any pics or video she might have stashed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
00seven 430 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: You sound just like the pedo's and enablers, even some judges, who talk about how prepubescent girls "seduced them". 17 year olds? prepubescent ? Really? That's just stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 3,943 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Who gives a shit how old they were?? The fact is, some very important Americans and Harry are alleged to have frequented parties where women were provided as sex objects. Why defend that? Why tolerate those who do that? I sense some double standards, hypocrisy, and down right bullshitting. remember when Al Franken was driven out of the Senate? Why is the standard higher for senators higher than for the POTUS or a Prince? Can the Houston quarterback have his job back? . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 4,418 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gouvernail said: Who gives a shit how old they were?? The fact is, some very important Americans and Harry are alleged to have frequented parties where women were provided as sex objects. Why defend that? Why tolerate those who do that? Hear Hear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Q 793 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Harry ? where did he come into it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slug zitski 576 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Gouvernail said: Who gives a shit how old they were?? The fact is, some very important Americans and Harry are alleged to have frequented parties where women were provided as sex objects. Why defend that? Why tolerate those who do that? I sense some double standards, hypocrisy, and down right bullshitting. remember when Al Franken was driven out of the Senate? Why is the standard higher for senators higher than for the POTUS or a Prince? Can the Houston quarterback have his job back? . Who cares millions of brothels and prostitutes in the world Quote Link to post Share on other sites
00seven 430 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Mid said: 1 hour ago, Gouvernail said: Who gives a shit how old they were?? The fact is, some very important Americans and Harry are alleged to have frequented parties where women were provided as sex objects. Why defend that? Why tolerate those who do that? Expand Hear Hear Who defended it? I don't want to see this woman shot in the head or brutalized like some others here have espoused. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Crab 2,467 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Happy said: All the pics I've seen of Ms. Giuffre (with Andrew, Bill C, the late Jeffrey, and more) show a smiling girl who looks thrilled to be there. Yep. I've had trouble getting up a good outrage on this. Smiling rape victims that go intercontinental jet setting don't fit for me. What we're really seeing here is a glimpse of the lifestyles of the rich and famous. Maybe there's much more dirty dealings but Ms. Giuffre is the wrong poster girl for this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Was her father so long ago that it's no longer a valid reference? I got it, see the photo I posted, but I like taking the piss some days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ventucky Red 1,104 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Nice! said: You're disgusting. She was underage. That means it's rape. There's no grey area here. Yes, there is a grey area, statutory rape. Even then, the age of consent for the US and Canada is 16. Some countries in Europe get as low as 14, and 15 seems to be the norm. Japan, 13. https://www.ageofconsent.net/world Not defending what they did here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent_island_sailor 5,296 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 It is one thing to be a sleaze and party it up screwing girls just barely making the age limit maybe. There is a supply of them willing to screw rich guys and see what they can get out of it. That is all gross and disgusting, but might make it under the wire as legal. What I recall out of Epstein's crimes is that they were NOT all of legal age and even if they were, they were NOT all volunteers. Some got a lot more than they bargained for and were threatened in various ways with being killed or perhaps them and their families too. As for the smiling girl, she may have decided the best way to live to see another day is look like she was going along with it all. The operation that I recall involved criminal sex trafficking. His pilot, Nadia Marcinkova, was pretty well known to be in on the operation in the aviation world. Some poor innocent person wanted her to give some speech to high school girls about aviation careers for women and the result on the aviation forum was not what they expected when they asked how to get in touch with her. Sample answer" "Are you fucking insane, you'll never see half those girls again" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,615 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 hours ago, 00seven said: 17 year olds? prepubescent ? Really? That's just stupid. That isn't what I said - I said his attitude is much the same. You do understand what the word "like" means don't you? In case not, it means "similar" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nolatom 585 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The French historically are weirdly tolerant of this, and slow in coming around: https://www.ozy.com/the-new-and-the-next/why-france-is-finally-confronting-its-child-sex-legacy/264625/ The States, much less so. Guilty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remodel 838 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 11:05 AM, SloopJonB said: That isn't what I said - I said his attitude is much the same. You do understand what the word "like" means don't you? In case not, it means "similar" That's not what Trump meant when he said, "He likes em young." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 If she is convicted, she should spend the rest of her life in a men’s prison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roundthebuoys 1,004 Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/23/2021 at 7:34 AM, Ventucky Red said: Yes, there is a grey area, statutory rape. Even then, the age of consent for the US and Canada is 16. Some countries in Europe get as low as 14, and 15 seems to be the norm. Japan, 13. https://www.ageofconsent.net/world Not defending what they did here... The age of consent in Florida (from your map) is 18. They were recruiting underage girls from high schools. In Florida. They were having the girls recruit their younger sisters and other underage girls. I don't care how rich they are, who the fuck thinks sex with a 16 year old is going to be better than a 24 year old who wants it sideways and daily? Even TFG, the least moral and ethical person on the planet, kind of demurred when he talked about it. Epstein was a sick fuck, Maxwell his enabler. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,198 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, bstrdsonofbtl said: Felon is the word you’re looking for Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3to1 733 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I don't give a fk about this flavor of the week bs. especially not with real problems in the world that demand triage but get only insufficient consideration when convenient. fkn' lame, prioritize already, bitches. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 1,926 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 If Matt Gaetz can slow walk the Ephebophilia legal process to nowheresville, why can't she ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,615 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Sol Rosenberg said: If she is convicted, she should spend the rest of her life in a men’s prison. Creative sentencing. I like it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Gouvernail 3,943 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 14 hours ago, 3to1 said: I don't give a fk about this flavor of the week bs. especially not with real problems in the world that demand triage but get only insufficient consideration when convenient. fkn' lame, prioritize already, bitches. The priority is adjusted by the fact two former White House residents, one of whom is campaigning to move back in, have been repeatedly described as likely participants in activities organized by the defendant. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gouvernail 3,943 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, chum said: But don't fuck with the cleavage thread lol! There is a huge difference between physical activities with conned underage girls and looking at professionally created photos of well paid consenting adult models. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 6,906 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, chum said: https://www.businessinsider.com/faa-accidentally-released-jeffrey-epsteins-flight-records-2021-10 Good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, chum said: But don't fuck with the cleavage thread lol! How does the cleavage thread relate to the charges in this case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 10,196 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, chum said: Try to keep up, the subject of women as sex objects came up. Goiv pointed out that they were well-paid, of age models. How he knows that and can make a blanket statement I have no idea. Don’t worry though, you just head back there and keep trying to prove you’re hetero, just pointing out hypocrisy wherever I see it. So you equate that thread with Epstein’s seeing of under age girls as sex objects? Okay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,648 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: How does the cleavage thread relate to the charges in this case? It looked like Ghislaine had quite the rack in her prime. That's all I got. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 5,198 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 10 minutes ago, chum said: Weak sauce. Bullshitter. Your projection game leaves a lot to be desired. Humor? no. Effective antagonism? no. Pretty much a waste of bits.
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