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32 minutes ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Credibility blown.

 

In place of mass vaccination, Malone recommends early intervention with therapeutics shown to be effective against COVID, including ivermectin. In contrast, the corporate press has shamelessly attacked early treatments, and especially ivermectin, which it calls a veterinary drug, in reference to the fact that it is used to treat both animals and humans, along with many other drugs, including antibiotics and pain pills.

In October, popular podcaster Joe Rogan announced on his program that he had contracted the virus and took ivermectin, prescribed by a doctor, along with other therapeutics including monoclonal antibodies, and that he only had “one bad day” with the virus.

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14 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

Credibility blown.

 

In place of mass vaccination, Malone recommends early intervention with therapeutics shown to be effective against COVID, including ivermectin. In contrast, the corporate press has shamelessly attacked early treatments, and especially ivermectin, which it calls a veterinary drug, in reference to the fact that it is used to treat both animals and humans, along with many other drugs, including antibiotics and pain pills.

In October, popular podcaster Joe Rogan announced on his program that he had contracted the virus and took ivermectin, prescribed by a doctor, along with other therapeutics including monoclonal antibodies, and that he only had “one bad day” with the virus.

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CNN ridiculed Rogan for taking “horse dewormer.” On his show, Rogan grilled CNN medical expert Sanjay Gupta. “Why would they lie [at your network] and say that’s horse dewormer? I can afford people medicine.” Rogan pointed out that the developers of ivermectin won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for the drug’s use in human beings.

Tell us how a drug that has multiple uses blows the credibility of those who use them SFB.

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6 minutes ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

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So.

You posted a long article. 

The writer part owns the for profit arm of the Reader.

For some reason, advertising revenue had dropped 90% during the age of Covid. 

The writer is a criminal defence lawyer with no Covid Cred.

Just another anti vaxer with his own Bully Pulpit.

 

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Didn't.

Besides, it was only one of the therapys imployed. Are you an epidemiologist? Can you say 100% it doesn't pair with other therapys to produce results.

FTR I'm not an anti-vax'er, but the pharmacutical giants are evil and machiavellian.

We can thank them for the new varient. It's good to know there may be other therapys to employ when their vaccines no longer work on the frankenvirus they helped create.

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25 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

So.

You posted a long article. 

The writer part owns the for profit arm of the Reader.

For some reason, advertising revenue had dropped 90% during the age of Covid. 

The writer is a criminal defence lawyer with no Covid Cred.

Just another anti vaxer with his own Bully Pulpit.

 

Weak. Explain how he makes $ off that online submission. Make it long and detailed.

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12 minutes ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Weak. Explain how he makes $ off that online submission. Make it long and detailed.

Huh?

Not talking about that particular  article. I'm pointing out that he has a vested interest in a media outlet that's suffering bigly during covid.

Leonard C. Goodman is a Chicago criminal defense attorney and co-owner of the for-profit arm of the Reader.

 

He's also a "Big Pharma" and invermectin conspiracy theorist 

Why indeed is CNN and much of the mainstream press lying about ivermectin, a drug that has been used by literally billions of people to treat tropical diseases, and has been shown to be safe and effective in treating COVID in countries such as Mexico, India, Japan, and Peru? First, in order for there to be an emergency use authorization for the vaccines, there has to be no treatment for a disease. Thus, any potential treatments must be disparaged. That is, of course, until Pfizer releases its antiviral drug, PF-07321332.

Sorry, but while it's healthy to be skeptical and angry about the release and marketing of these vaccines, once you start believing that it's all been engineered  by complicit governments for profit AND other valid treatments officially suppressed one is close to the edge of the plandemic rabit hole and Bill Gates is putting tiny transmitters in our blood.

Credibility zero

You would't be a DK sock would you?

Asking politely.

 

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1 hour ago, ShortForBob said:

Joe Rogan announced on his program that he had contracted the virus and took ivermectin, prescribed by a doctor, along with other therapeutics including monoclonal antibodies, and that he only had “one bad day” with the virus.

So……

On the one hand, vaxx sceptics/deniers, claim that vaccines haven’t been tested long enough, with not enough people being tested, and we haven’t waited long enough to see if there are any long term adverse effects and demand more proof from pharmaceutical companies and government agencies, but are readily happy to take a cocktail of all sorts of shit immediately on the say so of a quack and the “success” of one podcaster, who might not have been badly susceptible to the virus in the first place?

Got it.

 

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10 minutes ago, ShortForBob said:

Huh?

Not talking about that particular  article. I'm pointing out that he has a vested interest in a media outlet that's suffering bigly during covid.

Leonard C. Goodman is a Chicago criminal defense attorney and co-owner of the for-profit arm of the Reader.

 

He's also a "Big Pharma" and invermectin conspiracy theorist 

Why indeed is CNN and much of the mainstream press lying about ivermectin, a drug that has been used by literally billions of people to treat tropical diseases, and has been shown to be safe and effective in treating COVID in countries such as Mexico, India, Japan, and Peru? First, in order for there to be an emergency use authorization for the vaccines, there has to be no treatment for a disease. Thus, any potential treatments must be disparaged. That is, of course, until Pfizer releases its antiviral drug, PF-07321332.

Sorry, but while it's healthy to be skeptical and angry about the release and marketing of these vaccines, once you start believing that it's all been engineered  by complicit governments for profit AND other valid treatments officially suppressed one is close to the edge of the plandemic rabit hole and Bill Gates is putting tiny transmitters in our blood.

Credibility zero

You would't be a DK sock would you?

Asking politely.

 

You're right. It's not like our govts. haven't suppressed knowledge useful to the public before and congress critters or their beneficiaries haven't profited from insider knowledge.

What did they use to "cure" the tangerine tweeter?

Who's DK?

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20 minutes ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

You're right. It's not like our govts. haven't suppressed knowledge useful to the public before and congress critters or their beneficiaries haven't profited from insider knowledge.

What did they use to "cure" the tangerine tweeter?

Who's DK?

Don't mind shit for brains mate. She's a dill.

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Malone warns that overuse of a leaky vaccine during an outbreak risks generating mutant viruses that will overwhelm the vaccine, making it less effective for those who really need it. “The more people you vaccinate, the more vaccine-resistant mutations you get, and in the vaccine ‘arms race,’ the more need for ever more potent boosters.” 

Isn't that just complete babble that fails common sense 101?   This vaccine helps train your immune system to recognise this virus, i.e. less of the virus will exist since you will have a better/faster response to it.

Virus's don't form think tanks and decide how to combat the threat, it's just a numbers game.  The longer your body takes to fight off the invader the more it will divide and multiply and the more chances it gets to mutate.  One of those mutations might be resistant to the vaccine, if you pass it on...

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warning that COVID-19 vaccines could inhibit the development of children’s immune systems. “Children have a wonderful immune system compared to the later phases . . . of their life,” he explained, warning that “hindering” the “learning” of a child’s immune system—the “cells that defend us our whole lives”—with a “completely inorganic structure” such as a vaccine runs counter to public health.

I'd like to see some kind of evidence to suggest exposing children to the spike protein from COVID is going to hinder their immune system.

Again it seems to fail common sense 101, does getting the flu hinder your immune system?  It's not like it is replacing the work of the immune system, like a supplement or something.

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4 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

 

We can thank them for the new varient. It's good to know there may be other therapys to employ when their vaccines no longer work on the frankenvirus they helped create.

I think wealthy countries should wear this. But of course they wont.

It's easier to blame the drug companies and their "first in with the money bag" ethics  than greedy hoarders with the most cash to splash.

If people are worried abt MNRA vaccines, there are others.

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10 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

 

FTR I'm not an anti-vax'er, but the pharmacutical giants are evil and machiavellian.

We can thank them for the new varient. It's good to know there may be other therapys to employ when their vaccines no longer work on the frankenvirus they helped create.

How so?

If you are suggesting that creating a vaccine causes greater mutations then no, however it would help a new strain become dominant if it is different enough that our immune response due to either getting an earlier strain or being vaxxed are ineffective.  You might as well blame those already infected if that were the case.

What other therapies are effective?  Are you are referring to the anti parasite drug (made by giant multi national) which showed evidence of killing the virus in a petri dish.  That is very different to treating the virus in a human.

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6 hours ago, ShortForBob said:

 

If people are worried abt MNRA vaccines, there are others.

MNRA?

Are there medical uses for guns?  Cool, so separate the virus and shoot it?

What are the others, Firebugs Anonymous?

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10 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Didn't.

Besides, it was only one of the therapys imployed. Are you an epidemiologist? Can you say 100% it doesn't pair with other therapys to produce results.

FTR I'm not an anti-vax'er, but the pharmacutical giants are evil and machiavellian.

We can thank them for the new varient. It's good to know there may be other therapys to employ when their vaccines no longer work on the frankenvirus they helped create.

Epidemiologists don't treat viral infections nor respiratory infections nor clotting disorders (ie multiple organ failure)

Sorry you've been sold a bundle of bullshit, pay a little more attention to real science next time

- DSK

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8 hours ago, sparau said:

Isn't that just complete babble that fails common sense 101?   This vaccine helps train your immune system to recognise this virus, i.e. less of the virus will exist since you will have a better/faster response to it.

Virus's don't form think tanks and decide how to combat the threat, it's just a numbers game.  The longer your body takes to fight off the invader the more it will divide and multiply and the more chances it gets to mutate.  One of those mutations might be resistant to the vaccine, if you pass it on...

I'd like to see some kind of evidence to suggest exposing children to the spike protein from COVID is going to hinder their immune system.

Again it seems to fail common sense 101, does getting the flu hinder your immune system?  It's not like it is replacing the work of the immune system, like a supplement or something.

Myocarditis is an autoimmune disease 

 

 

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"But why has the mainstream Left ended up supporting practically all Covid measures? How did such a simplistic view of the relationship between health and the economy emerge, one which makes a mockery of decades of (Left-leaning) social science research showing just how closely wealth and health outcomes are connected? Why did the Left ignore the massive increase in inequalities, the attack on the poor, on poor countries, on women and children, the cruel treatment of the elderly, and the huge increase in wealth for the richest individuals and corporations resulting from these policies? How, in relation to the development and roll-out of vaccines, did the Left end up ridiculing the very notion that, given the money at stake, and when BioNTech, Moderna and Pfizer currently make between them over US$1,000 per second from the Covid vaccines, there might be motivations from the vaccine manufacturers other than “the public good” at play? And how is it possible that the Left, often on the receiving end of state repression, today seems oblivious to the worrying ethical and political implications of Covid passports?"

https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2021/11/24/the-lefts-covid-failure/

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7 hours ago, slug zitski said:

Myocarditis is an autoimmune disease 

 

 

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COVID-19 itself is associated with a substantially higher risk of myocarditis and other cardiac complications compared with vaccination. COVID-19 is estimated to cause myocarditis at a rate of 11.0 events per 100,000 persons (risk ratio 18.28; 95% CI, 3.95 - 25.12), whilst Comirnaty (Pfizer) vaccine has been estimated to cause myocarditis at an overall rate of 2.7 events per 100,000 persons (risk ratio 3.24; 95% CI 1.55 to 12.44).12

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2021/11/covid-19-vaccination-guidance-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-after-mrna-covid-19-vaccines_1.pdf

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4 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

 And how is it possible that the Left, often on the receiving end of state repression, today seems oblivious to the worrying ethical and political implications of Covid passports?"

https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2021/11/24/the-lefts-covid-failure/

Because "the left" understand "Big Picture" policy?

 

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4 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

"But why has the mainstream Left ended up supporting practically all Covid measures? How did such a simplistic view of the relationship between health and the economy emerge, one which makes a mockery of decades of (Left-leaning) social science research showing just how closely wealth and health outcomes are connected? Why did the Left ignore the massive increase in inequalities, the attack on the poor, on poor countries, on women and children, the cruel treatment of the elderly, and the huge increase in wealth for the richest individuals and corporations resulting from these policies? How, in relation to the development and roll-out of vaccines, did the Left end up ridiculing the very notion that, given the money at stake, and when BioNTech, Moderna and Pfizer currently make between them over US$1,000 per second from the Covid vaccines, there might be motivations from the vaccine manufacturers other than “the public good” at play? And how is it possible that the Left, often on the receiving end of state repression, today seems oblivious to the worrying ethical and political implications of Covid passports?"

https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org/2021/11/24/the-lefts-covid-failure/

That's called a strawman. See, you're making up an argument to argue against.  OF COURSE THE COMPANIES THAT MADE THE VACCINES DID SO FOR A PROFIT. 

Christ almighty. 

Do you think the people who made ivermectin did it for fucking fun?  And since the people who make ivermectin are a big evil multinational Pharma company, why haven't they gone ahead and marketed it for covid? Could it be because there is no scientific proof at all that it has my positive effect?

Get rid of your tin foil hat and stop make Americans look stupid.  It's goddamn embarrassing. 

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why haven't they gone ahead and marketed it for covid?

They didn't have to they got the tangerine tweeter et al....

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Because "the left" understand "Big Picture" policy?

The "left" tear themselves apart. The fascists march in lockstep. 

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4 hours ago, sparau said:

It’s an autoimmune disease triggered by the vaccine

Lupus, Diabetes , Arthritis , multiple sclerosis, crowns disease ……

All autoimmune 

which ones will attack the children receiving this vaccine

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, slug zitski said:

It’s an autoimmune disease triggered by the vaccine

Lupus, Diabetes , Arthritis , multiple sclerosis, crowns disease ……

All autoimmune 

which ones will attack the children receiving this vaccine

 

 

 

So we never had these diseases before we had the vaccine?

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4 hours ago, slug zitski said:

It’s an autoimmune disease triggered by the vaccine

Lupus, Diabetes , Arthritis , multiple sclerosis, crowns disease ……

All autoimmune 

which ones will attack the children receiving this vaccine

So the disease itself triggers this autoimmune disease 4x as often as the vaccine.

Are you choosing to believe (I say this because I can't find any evidence to back this up) that if you get immunised then get COVID (which will likely happen at some point) it would give you like a 4 + 1 chance of this autoimmune disease?  As opposed to the vaccine possibly reducing the chance of getting an autoimmune disease triggered by the virus?

I mean if you are just correlating things by name then why not AIDS?

"You heard it on Sailing Anarchy first folks, COVID vaccines give you AIDS" :) :) :)

Sluggo for WHO chairperson !!

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5 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

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OMFSJOAB.

I thought we'd settled the plandemic hallucinatory insanity  a year ago.

What's next? tiny implanted nano bots?

Bill Gates experimenting on hungry african children (before he passes them to the pizza shop basement)

Michelle Obama is really a man?

It's embarrassing to read.

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On 11/27/2021 at 11:33 PM, ShortForBob said:

Bill Gates experimenting on hungry african children (before he passes them to the pizza shop basement)

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A look at the database of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation reveals how the oligarch influencing the global pandemic response has bankrolled hundreds of media outlets to the tune of at least $319 million.

https://thegrayzone.com/2021/11/21/bill-gates-million-media-outlets-global-agenda/

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On 11/27/2021 at 9:56 AM, slug zitski said:

Myocarditis is an autoimmune disease 

 

 

Myocarditis can be caused by an autoimmune disease but the most common cause of this rare condition is viral infection.

The statement that Myocarditis is an autoimmune disease is misleading, suggesting that the condition of myocarditis is always the result of an autoimmune response, when in fact, it is extremely rare.

Regarding the link between myocarditis and Covid. This might be helpful:

 

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This is, without doubt, the most worthless thread on Corona Anarchy. 

There have been some pointless discussions before and some intended and unintended misinformation before but this one plummets new lows.

Can @Editor provide us with an "ignore" function for entire threads? ^_^

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1 hour ago, EYESAILOR said:

Myocarditis can be caused by an autoimmune disease but the most common cause of this rare condition is viral infection.

The statement that Myocarditis is an autoimmune disease is misleading, suggesting that the condition of myocarditis is always the result of an autoimmune response, when in fact, it is extremely rare.

Regarding the link between myocarditis and Covid. This might be helpful:

 

You have a lot of nerve quoting someone at the Mayo Clinic. Everyone knows they are on the take big time from BiG Pharma. Find better sources.

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1 hour ago, slug zitski said:

France , Germany , Denmark, Sweden , Iceland …. …..
 

have all decided that  Myocarditis  risk is so high that young people are not vaccinated with these vaccines

  

They may not have decided yet.  Approval processes are slow and the first ones were only a couple of weeks ago. You have no evidence that non-approvals to date are tied to fear of this side effect.

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34 minutes ago, Bristol-Cruiser said:

They may not have decided yet.  Approval processes are slow and the first ones were only a couple of weeks ago. You have no evidence that non-approvals to date are tied to fear of this side effect.

Since Thursday, Sweden and Finland have also suspended the use of the Moderna vaccine but only for those under 30, because of a risk of inflammation of the myocardium, the heart muscle, and the pericardium, the membrane covering the heart.

Denmark and Norway have formally advised against it for those under 18.

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On 11/27/2021 at 8:36 PM, slug zitski said:

It’s an autoimmune disease triggered by the vaccine

Lupus, Diabetes , Arthritis , multiple sclerosis, crowns disease ……

All autoimmune 

which ones will attack the children receiving this vaccine

 

 

 

So my Crohn's (crowns to you) disease that I have been dealing with for years is a result of the vaccine I received last year?

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58 minutes ago, Gangbusters said:

So my Crohn's (crowns to you) disease that I have been dealing with for years is a result of the vaccine I received last year?

He is an anti-vaxxer. He thinks your childhood immunizations caused your Crohn's. Never mind asking him to compare rates of auto immune dx in vaccinated vs unvaccinated. If he could do basic math he would not be an anti-vaxxer  

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4 hours ago, slug zitski said:

Since Thursday, Sweden and Finland have also suspended the use of the Moderna vaccine but only for those under 30, because of a risk of inflammation of the myocardium, the heart muscle, and the pericardium, the membrane covering the heart.

Denmark and Norway have formally advised against it for those under 18.

So, AZ caused blood clots in 1 in a million under 60's

Moderna might cause mild myocarditis in very small cohort of men under 30

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-young-men-2021-10-07/

The EMA's safety committee concluded in July that such inflammatory heart conditions could occur in very rare cases following vaccination with Spikevax or the Pfizer/BioNTech Comirnaty jab, more often in younger men after the second dose.

Regulators in the United States, EU and the World Health Organization have however stressed that the benefits of shots based on the mRNA technology used by Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks.

Lets all stop all vaccines and let another 10 million die of covid. yay.

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The pre-print paper in the Lancet shows there was an 80 per cent reduction in admission to intensive care units among hospitalised patients who were treated with large doses of Vitamin D, and a 64 per cent reduction in death. The possibility of these being chance findings are infinitesimally small, note the researchers. And to boot, the study found no side-effects even when these mega-doses were given short term to the hospitalised patients.

If Vitamin D can approximate a cure for many of those hospitalised with Covid, one can infer that it should prove even more effective when used as a prophylactic. Most people in northern latitudes ought to be taking Vitamin D through much of the year in significant doses – well above the current, outdated 400IU recommended by governments like the UK’s.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/18/why-politicians-and-doctors-keep-ignoring-the-medical-research-on-vitamin-d-and-covid-2/print/

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium.HIGHLIGHT.MAGAZINE-is-covid-cure-already-sold-at-a-pharmacies-israel-coronavirus-experts-believe-so-1.9220714

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:36 PM, slug zitski said:

It’s an autoimmune disease triggered by the vaccine

Lupus, Diabetes , Arthritis , multiple sclerosis, crowns disease ……

All autoimmune 

which ones will attack the children receiving this vaccine

 

 

 

Thanks for that slug. I always take my health advise from someone who cleans boat for a living.

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On 11/30/2021 at 5:13 PM, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Can you give me the new world orders email address? I have looked at both sides arguments and I have decided I am joining with them. When the apocalypse comes I want to be on the winning side and you anti vaxers can't even spell. Anti vaxers have been attacking tall wheat growers because they read on facebook that it was 'Big Phamas' that are behind the vaccines.

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

Thanks for that slug. I always take my health advise from someone who cleans boat for a living.

Why not?..  after all the experts got us here and have not stopped C19..

 

Everybody is a epidemiologist.

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Not sure why so many have a problem with the basics. 

Healthy Young children, in most cases, don't need the vaccine for themselves.

If they get it, it is for - in this order

1 - Their close family and friends/teachers, etc. - to which the vaccine might help in terms of less transmission from the child to the family members.

2 - Society as a whole - in terms of total lesser spread.

3 - Themselves in the selfish sense

I think the reason so many are confused is they ONLY concentrate on #3. If we do that, it is true that the vaccines benefit is not vastly above it's dangers. No exact number can be put on it, but it is likely close.

So, it's the other parts that make the difference. 

This is in a completely different league than the vaccinations which provide a 8 to 12X benefit in terms of less hospitalizations/death to older folks.

Media and the Health Authorities rarely will lay it out this way. They don't believe the masses have any ability to think, so they just put out "you should get it done - and the benefits exceed the risks". But the benefits only really exceed the risks when they are "benefits to everyone" as opposed to the vaccine target.

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28 minutes ago, craigiri said:

Not sure why so many have a problem with the basics. 

Healthy Young children, in most cases, don't need the vaccine for themselves.

If they get it, it is for - in this order

1 - Their close family and friends/teachers, etc. - to which the vaccine might help in terms of less transmission from the child to the family members.

2 - Society as a whole - in terms of total lesser spread.

3 - Themselves in the selfish sense

I think the reason so many are confused is they ONLY concentrate on #3. If we do that, it is NOT true that the vaccines benefit is not vastly above it's dangers. No exact number can be put on it, but it is likely close.

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FIFY

Unless you vastly overstate the vaccines dangers, yes the disease is far more dangerous even to kids. Every single health risk the vaccine poses, the virus also carries in greater degree. And so far no verified reports of kids dying because of the vaccine, which is absolutely not true of the disease. Small number but big big downside.

- DSK

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10 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

FIFY

Unless you vastly overstate the vaccines dangers, yes the disease is far more dangerous even to kids. Every single health risk the vaccine poses, the virus also carries in greater degree. And so far no verified reports of kids dying because of the vaccine, which is absolutely not true of the disease. Small number but big big downside.

- DSK

To put this in perspective - first, I said healthy kids. 

In the state of MA in the first total year of the pandemic, not a single juvenile died from COVID. Maybe a few have died since, but we don't know the health status. This truly is less than many Flu years in that age group (typical for 2 to 10 pediatric deaths from FLU per year in MA).

Given these numbers- and the lack of long term data from millions of vaccinated kids, you simply cannot make a accurate statement that vaccinating a 5 year old (or a 12 year old for that matter) is vastly safer than not...for the target alone. It's really getting into the realm of barely measurable. 

My problem with the Public Health Message is simply that the 3 or 4 benefits should be laid out clearly. It may be of no benefit to the child. It may be a positive benefit - it may be negative. BUT, it is probably positive when you add in the "we" factor. 

Likely, among healthy kids, we are talking 1 in a 500,000 or less per year. Those are 50X less than car accident yearly odds! We are really splitting hairs at that level....because it may be that 1 in a million still die w/vaccine. 

In summary, I do not consider it a crazy decision for parents not to vaccinate young healthy children for the sake of the child themselves. That IMHO. 

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9 minutes ago, craigiri said:

To put this in perspective - first, I said healthy kids. 

In the state of MA in the first total year of the pandemic, not a single juvenile died from COVID. Maybe a few have died since, but we don't know the health status. This truly is less than many Flu years in that age group (typical for 2 to 10 pediatric deaths from FLU per year in MA).

Given these numbers- and the lack of long term data from millions of vaccinated kids, you simply cannot make a accurate statement that vaccinating a 5 year old (or a 12 year old for that matter) is vastly safer than not...for the target alone. It's really getting into the realm of barely measurable.

Uh huh

And how many have died from the vaccine?

Considerably less than "the realm of barely measureable."

And those two numbers are relative to each other, not that they're both small. 0.01 is in fact ten times as much as 0.001 no matter that you think both are tiny. If it's YOUR kid that is the one that dies, it's extremely big.

Another way to imagine it.... let's play Russian Roulette. We have some revolvers that hold hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of chambers. 1 bullet. Would you rather play with the revolver that holds 10,000 or the one that holds ten million? Your odds of actually getting that bullet in your head are tiny, both ways!

- DSK

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11 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Uh huh

And how many have died from the vaccine?

Considerably less than "the realm of barely measureable."

And those two numbers are relative to each other, not that they're both small. 0.01 is in fact ten times as much as 0.001 no matter that you think both are tiny. If it's YOUR kid that is the one that dies, it's extremely big.

Another way to imagine it.... let's play Russian Roulette. We have some revolvers that hold hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of chambers. 1 bullet. Would you rather play with the revolver that holds 10,000 or the one that holds ten million? Your odds of actually getting that bullet in your head are tiny, both ways!

- DSK

Or keep the revolver in a child proof safe?

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On 11/30/2021 at 9:29 AM, slug zitski said:

France , Germany , Denmark, Sweden , Iceland …. …..
 

have all decided that  Myocarditis  risk is so high that young people are not vaccinated with these vaccines

  

You're a fucking dingbat.

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1 hour ago, EYESAILOR said:

Or keep the revolver in a child proof safe?

It's OK, a non-imaginary revolver that could hold thousands, tens of thousands, etc etc, bullets for such a low-risk game of Russian Roulette, would be too heavy for a child to lift, anyway.

- DSK

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