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Political Scientists speak out  . .  

https://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/statements/statement-in-support-of-the-freedom-to-vote-act/

Key points . .  

If Congress fails to pass the Freedom to Vote Act, American democracy will be at critical risk. Not only could this failure undermine the minimum condition for electoral democracy—free and fair elections—but it would in turn likely result in an extended period of minority rule, which a majority of the country would reject as undemocratic and illegitimate. This would have grave consequences not only for our democracy, but for political order, economic prosperity, and the national security of the United States as well.

Defenders of democracy in America still have a slim window of opportunity to act. But time is ticking away, and midnight is approaching. To lose our democracy but preserve the filibuster in its current form—in which a minority can block popular legislation without even having to hold the floor—would be a short-sighted mistake of historic proportions.

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4 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

Political Scientists speak out  . .  

https://www.newamerica.org/political-reform/statements/statement-in-support-of-the-freedom-to-vote-act/

Key points . .  

If Congress fails to pass the Freedom to Vote Act, American democracy will be at critical risk. Not only could this failure undermine the minimum condition for electoral democracy—free and fair elections—but it would in turn likely result in an extended period of minority rule, which a majority of the country would reject as undemocratic and illegitimate. This would have grave consequences not only for our democracy, but for political order, economic prosperity, and the national security of the United States as well.

Defenders of democracy in America still have a slim window of opportunity to act. But time is ticking away, and midnight is approaching. To lose our democracy but preserve the filibuster in its current form—in which a minority can block popular legislation without even having to hold the floor—would be a short-sighted mistake of historic proportions.

it won't happen

and RvW will be overturned this session

I'm finding it hard to care about people that refuse to vote for their own freedoms.

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3 minutes ago, Raz'r said:

it won't happen

Maybe, but we have to try. 

Here on PA and elsewhere the Right Wingers seem to be OK with abolishing free and fair elections, and gravely subverting voting rights. 

What they do not grasp if that, if their authoritarian project succeeds, their own voting rights will also be tossed in the nearest dumpster. 

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10 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

Maybe, but we have to try. 

Here on PA and elsewhere the Right Wingers seem to be OK with abolishing free and fair elections, and gravely subverting voting rights. 

What they do not grasp if that, if their authoritarian project succeeds, their own voting rights will also be tossed in the nearest dumpster. 

Who's this "we"?

It's up to Sinema and Manchin.  At least Manchin seems reasonable in that he will vote to represent his state. Voting rights could help him. 

Sinema? 

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3 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

You, me, the normally reticent Pol Sci profs . .  the entire herd 

We are all in this together. 

great. You have my support. 

Unfortunately (fortunately) I don't like in either Manchin's or Sinema's state, so they won't listen to me. 

Also unfortunately, the majority of folks in enough states to matter don't think the poor should vote, nor should they have the rights they know they will always have, like needed healthcare. They could always take a trip to Cali (or, more likely, send their illicit girlfriend or their teen daughter) for a little vacation. 

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11 hours ago, Raz'r said:

it won't happen

and RvW will be overturned this session

I'm finding it hard to care about people that refuse to vote for their own freedoms.

They say that in a democracy the people get the government they deserve.

I don't know what America did to piss off the Gods but something definitely happened.

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8 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

They say that in a democracy the people get the government they deserve.

I don't know what America did to piss off the Gods but something definitely happened.

worship false idols...Kardashians and Trumps

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4 hours ago, bstrdsonofbtl said:

Excellent... worth quoting more of!

The "Shining City on a Hill" Is Ready to Ignite

All hands are needed on deck right now to save the republic. No joke.
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Michael Winship      November 30, 2021

I'm beginning to think that when it comes to saving the United States and our fragile democracy, perhaps the only answer is to hit the off button and reboot.

Or maybe administer a high colonic.

Lame jokes aside, an enormous change is necessary and here in our current crazy situation, I'm sometimes uncertain as to whether we'll ever get back to the real world and common sense without the defibrillating shock of some awful defining event.

Because the problem is huge. And terrifying. Truth is, we're broken. There's a chance to fix things, yet it's a sad reality that Republican leadership lusts for power above all but lacks any decent ideas, practical programs, or the skills or inclination to govern. ...

This is serious. We have one of our two major political parties running on nothing but prejudice, malice, insults, fear, disinformation, and bad, sometimes violent behavior. And doing quite well.

Look back at the insurrection of January 6, at how so many Republicans initially made public comments denouncing the attack but within days had reversed their stance, suddenly declaring that the assault on the Capitol was a legitimate expression of outrage or even just a tourist visit. Fearful of offending their deranged former president and his followers, they backed down like the cowards they are.

Observe House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy... ...

Or goofy-as-a-fox Senator Ted Cruz of Texas singlehandedly blocking the nomination of more than 50 Biden appointments because he felt like it, while simultaneously attacking Big Bird and Sesame Street, allegedly for spreading horrifically liberal or socialist ideas...   ...

Sadly and to a shocking degree, they're achieving success with these tactics and inching us closer to the edge of a cliff -- a flailing republic plummeting into dictatorship... ...

Sure, it's not all about Trump: before him, there were plenty of dimwits filled with hatred from head to toe. But he's the enabler supreme, his incendiary words and deeds giving a blank hall pass to every two-bit reactionary who cares more about Fox News, reality TV and trashing anyone considered to the left of Czar Nicholas I. He is the alpha and omega to every angry, dissatisfied, powerless white person who clings to race as the mark of their superiority no matter the circumstances.

...

Make no mistake—their nonsensical statements often are a smokescreen for the concerted campaign to not only suppress the vote of the majority who oppose them but to create a system where election results are determined and even overturned by partisan hacks changing election laws, gerrymandering districts and filling election boards as well as the offices of state attorneys general and secretaries of state.  ...    ...

With intemperate, toxic words and actions designed to bring down democracy and create a dictatorship, Republicans and their followers would restore to power an incompetent tyrant and cause our complete collapse. The famous "shining city on a hill" will be in ruins.

Pay attention. I'm not kidding. This is no joke.

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100% agree. This is not a joke. I wish I had better ideas about how to overcome this threat, but stupidity and vanity are immortal enemies.

- DSK

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Yikes, there's even a wikipedia page on US Gerrymandering.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering_in_the_United_States

Some of the districts are bonkers.

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Illinois's 4th congressional district has the moniker "the earmuffs" and amounts to packing of two mainly Hispanic areas.[79] It has had in relative terms hairline contiguity along Interstate 294 and two necks at right angles, forming a very long neck between two areas, which was somewhat widened in 2013.[80]

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2 hours ago, Ncik said:

Yikes, there's even a wikipedia page on US Gerrymandering.

Jeez, Shirley you must know that there is a quite extensive literature of the subject . . 

don't you ?? 

(I got 3 million hits in .7 seconds on Google) 

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5 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

Jeez, Shirley you must know that there is a quite extensive literature of the subject . . 

don't you ?? 

(I got 3 million hits in .7 seconds on Google) 

Oh, there were rumours, but the reality appears worse.

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7 minutes ago, Ncik said:

Oh, there were rumours,

Please don't think that it is a Both Sidesims Thingy 

the GOPPERS Riech does a good 90% of it, . ..  

very likely so much so that they gain control of the US House in 2022 

while winning millions of fewer total votes nationally in House races. 

(There is a lit on that too) 

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