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Schakel

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5 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

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thats not gonna buff out.  two boats one travelift,  at hinckley.

someone is not gonna have a happy holiday..

An awfull lot of work in flames.
It's a shame.

 

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Sail4beer

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That is what would be considered a flaming disaster. I feel bad for the owner of the sailboat and the crew working in the pobo. Hope nobody was smoking a cigarette under the boat and flicked the butt in the wrong place.

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4 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

That is what would be considered a flaming disaster. I feel bad for the owner of the sailboat and the crew working in the pobo. Hope nobody was smoking a cigarette under the boat and flicked the butt in the wrong place.

uuh uhh,

Mostly this is the work of people who want insurance money.

90 percent of fires are a set-up. You can prove this scientifically.

It's a waste of capital and good and fine work.
Should be forbidden when proven.
Liability case it is called.

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Schakel

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5 minutes ago, cbulger said:

News reported that they were doing glass repair at the time the fire broke out.

 

Sloppy, who is to blaim?
Suspected firestarters.

 

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25 minutes ago, Schakel said:

uuh uhh,

Mostly this is the work of people who want insurance money.

90 percent of fires are a set-up. You can prove this scientifically.

It's a waste of capital and good and fine work.
Should be forbidden when proven.
Liability case it is called.

You're an idiot!

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Sail4beer

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2 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

Finally, a bolt on neck,  triple single coil, maple neck killer! 

Is that the Silver Sky model? Looks like it has a routed bevel around the whole body, which would be pretty unique 

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Schakel

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3 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

Is that the Silver Sky model? Looks like it has a routed bevel around the whole body, which would be pretty unique 

Steel metallic finish, but you can call want you want. Looks like a strat, plays like a strat!

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That is a guitar I’ll have to play for comparison. Could it possibly have a double stacked single/humbucker with a pull pot for depth of sound? Either way, it is a step back in time to the 60’s if it is successful.

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A.C. Hill

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21 hours ago, Schakel said:

uuh uhh,

Mostly this is the work of people who want insurance money.

90 percent of fires are a set-up. You can prove this scientifically.

It's a waste of capital and good and fine work.
Should be forbidden when proven.
Liability case it is called.

High friction caused by the insurance policy rubbing up against the boat loan note.  However, that is highly unlikely in this fire.  That whole Melville marina area is one impressive place for big sailboats.

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13 minutes ago, A.C. Hill said:

High friction caused by the insurance policy rubbing up against the boat loan note.  However, that is highly unlikely in this fire.  That whole Melville marina area is one impressive place for big sailboats.

Yeah, insurance fraud doesn't usually happen IN the travel lift.  

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22 hours ago, Schakel said:

uuh uhh,

Mostly this is the work of people who want insurance money.

90 percent of fires are a set-up. You can prove this scientifically.

It's a waste of capital and good and fine work.
Should be forbidden when proven.
Liability case it is called.

Just when I think you couldn’t possibly say anything dumber than your usual garbage, you go and totally amaze me. 

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Do you think the owners are emotionally invested?

I remain emotionally invested in many boats, some I owned, more I did not. Big bills seem to reduce the attachment, whereas memories, dreams, and enduring connections to companions in the journey increase my attachment.

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22 hours ago, See Level said:

You're an idiot!

Yeah realy?

I an hired for five consuctive periods to make improvements that really matter,
And now you know Mrs. Nothing else mattters.

 

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2 minutes ago, Schakel said:

Yeah realy?

I an hired for five consuctive periods to make improvements that really matter,
And now you know Mrs. Nothing else mattters.

 

This wil be my new guitar. See you on stage.

I am Tony, dutch

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I doubt the FRP work was the cause. Certainly a cup of catalyzed resin gets very hot but how do you describe a method for using hot resin to ignite a fire?  
 I bet if you spilled acetone all over the ground under a boat and lit that acetone, it wouldn’t start a boat above it on fire.  
and…. If people were around, extinguishing a small fire under a boat shouldn’t be challenging. 
i think something inside the boat started the fire snd nobody noticed the fire until it was way to late. 
Space heater in the cabin? 

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33 minutes ago, Gouvernail said:

I doubt the FRP work was the cause. Certainly a cup of catalyzed resin gets very hot but how do you describe a method for using hot resin to ignite a fire?  
 I bet if you spilled acetone all over the ground under a boat and lit that acetone, it wouldn’t start a boat above it on fire.  
and…. If people were around, extinguishing a small fire under a boat shouldn’t be challenging. 
i think something inside the boat started the fire snd nobody noticed the fire until it was way to late. 
Space heater in the cabin? 

Nothing else mattters

 

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Schakel

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That's Why Not it is not unin

21 minutes ago, Hugh Janus said:

electrical short or batteries

Not un intelliegent.
A Prius has become a role modei.
https://www.anwb.nl/auto/tests-en-specificaties/detail/merk=toyota/model=prius/occasiontest/470758c4-25e8-df11-a731-000c29d2a1e4

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1 hour ago, Gouvernail said:

 

I doubt the FRP work was the cause. Certainly a cup of catalyzed resin gets very hot but how do you describe a method for using hot resin to ignite a fire?  

 

Funnily enough, this exact cause was cited for a boat fire in my neck of the woods just a few days ago (and immediately adjacent to the building housing the marina fuel tanks, and about 150’ from my boat).  I suspect what happened is after some glass work was done and, being cold at night, a work light was set up under the layup to keep it warm.  They went home for the night to let it kick, and the fire dept showed up around 9 pm.  Felt bad, as the had been working a month or more to get it ready for scallop season, and we’re just to the point of rigging the gear and soon splashing.  Total loss now.

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2nd big yacht fire in months within 30 miles of one another. Last one was in New Bedford harbor at popes marina. These fires happen a lot more than you’d think. My nephew is a big yacht captain. He sends me pics of these burners relatively often. That what insurance is for. 

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Insurance Fraud - Wrong part of the economic cycle.  In the USA boats of all sizes especially power are in BIG demand.  Whether it is a Boston Whaler or this thing that caught on fire. Prices for used boats are HIGH!!!   If you have a powerboat or anything that goes on a powerboat SELL, SELL, SELL!!!!

However ....

We are having a labor shortage especially in Trades.  The result is long waits, higher wages and perhaps some people who should be supervised more than they are.   This is not the old Hinckley but the new Hinckley / Little Harbor etc owned by I believe an investment fund.  There may not be an owner on the premises.  We have all been around marinas where the owner or a family member runs the place.  We have also been around marinas that only have employees.  There is a big difference. (IMHO)  Ask the US Navy about the need for a fire watch when welding hours after the welding is done.   When you lose a two billion dollar ship in port it changes peoples opinions.  Electrical safety, grounds, cold iron, shore power, pumps etc, etc and etc.

We will have to wait to find out what happened but where I would look at last is arson by the owner of the power boat.   Everything else should be considered including arson. (not by the owner)    Regardless, according to the posts this is part of the new Hinckley operation.  If this is true, I just do not see too many possible reasons for the fire and inability to stop the spread from not laying blame at Hinckley. 

 

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2 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

I doubt the FRP work was the cause. Certainly a cup of catalyzed resin gets very hot but how do you describe a method for using hot resin to ignite a fire?  
 I bet if you spilled acetone all over the ground under a boat and lit that acetone, it wouldn’t start a boat above it on fire.  
and…. If people were around, extinguishing a small fire under a boat shouldn’t be challenging. 
i think something inside the boat started the fire snd nobody noticed the fire until it was way to late. 
Space heater in the cabin? 

Not really certain what FRP is, but......Decades ago I was repairing some dings on a surfboard and apparently added too much hardener. When I tested the viscosity of the repair with my finger I got a very slight burn.

When I went back into the garage +/- 20 minutes later smoke was coming out of my repair at a rate greater than the smoke from a cigarette or a cigar. Removed the board from from the vice and was about to douse it with some water from the hose when I thought I saw a small candle sized flame. Doused it under the hose, then left it out in the driveway. I think the flame appeared because I was feeding the smoky repair oxygen as I swung the board through the air to get it to the garden hose as well as exposing it to direct sunlight.

It still smoked in the driveway so I moved it out of the sunlight and into the shady grass, then put a water soaked towel on it. I did not want my surfboard going up in flames.

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7 hours ago, Hitchhiker said:

Seriously?  Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic.

People use all kinds of peculiar / particular acronyms, many of them mad up on the fly.

In the surfing industry it's Fiberglass Repair Patch. In the world of hardcore porn it's

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1 hour ago, Parma said:

People use all kinds of peculiar / particular acronyms, many of them mad up on the fly.

In the surfing industry it's Fiberglass Repair Patch. In the world of hardcore porn it's

In Wngland GRP is glassfibre reinforce ed plasti orcpolymer while frp is broader==fibrecreinfoeced plastic. So cfrp and krp are frp as well as grp being also frp

Hahaha

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I think the pirate name is usually spelled Teach, not Teak, confusing Quad.   Also Thatch, Thatche, Teck.  (Great vowel shift and non standardized spelling make my head ache.)
 

Heaters, even incandescent bulbs to warm baby lambs or chicks, are notorious for burning down barns (and baby lambs and chicks).  Always suspect the heater, you’ll be right uncomfortably often.  I’d guess exothermic reaction of polymer is unaffected by movement in a lift, unlike a heater.

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11 hours ago, Parma said:

People use all kinds of peculiar / particular acronyms, many of them mad up on the fly.

In the surfing industry it's Fiberglass Repair Patch. In the world of hardcore porn it's

it's what? don't leave us hanging like that :D

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6 hours ago, Lark said:

I think the pirate name is usually spelled Teach, not Teak, confusing Quad.   Also Thatch, Thatche, Teck.  (Great vowel shift and non standardized spelling make my head ache.)
 

Heaters, even incandescent bulbs to warm baby lambs or chicks, are notorious for burning down barns (and baby lambs and chicks).  Always suspect the heater, you’ll be right uncomfortably often.  I’d guess exothermic reaction of polymer is unaffected by movement in a lift, unlike a heater.

Eddie lived towards the end of the great vowel shift. And I’d assume no one used his real name but the crown maybe so that’s not really an issue…non-standardized spelling though, yeah I’m with you on that front. 

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If the fire didn't get 'em the offset companionway would have spelt doom eventually.

I don't see the point of the PRS. I have 4 strats, one righty for guests and 3 lefties for me, a Custom shop Clapton, a Nacho Bano, and a MIM that was my first guitar. The Nacho is the best, but at the price it ought to be. 

I have 2 PRS's, neither has been played in a couple of years. Beautifully made, though not to Collings level, but I just don't love them.

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On 12/10/2021 at 2:43 PM, Schakel said:

uuh uhh,

Mostly this is the work of people who want insurance money.

90 percent of fires are a set-up. You can prove this scientifically.

It's a waste of capital and good and fine work.
Should be forbidden when proven.
Liability case it is called.

You are a fucking asshole to suggest this is an insurance job. Seriously, go fuck yourself. 

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On 12/11/2021 at 2:57 PM, Squalamax said:

2nd big yacht fire in months within 30 miles of one another. Last one was in New Bedford harbor at popes marina. These fires happen a lot more than you’d think. My nephew is a big yacht captain. He sends me pics of these burners relatively often. That what insurance is for. 

I know of a boat, I'd like to back into one of those fires 

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On 12/11/2021 at 11:41 AM, ZeroTheHero said:

Yeah, insurance fraud doesn't usually happen IN the travel lift.  

Reminds me of the old joke that ends, "so how do you start a flood?"

Funny to find that joke from an Ambergris Cay (San Pedro, Belize) forum.

Izzy and Ebbe bumped into each other in a club in Florida.
Izzy said “Ebbe, what are you doing here? Did you sell your garment business?”
“Oh no,” says Ebbe, “The building burned down, I collected the insurance and decided to retire. What brings you here Izzy?”
Izzy says “Well the laundry plant flooded, I collected the insurance money and decided to retire.”
Ebbe thought for several minutes then asked Izzy “So, how do you start a flood?”

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21 hours ago, Hitchhiker said:

Hmm. Still can't sell your J-29?

I have had a few HACKS look at her, I think people are afraid of buying her and having to uphold her winning ways, then they will find out how much they really suck!

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2 minutes ago, Squalamax said:

Perfect end for Hustler, the fastest J29 in the country(highly debatable) Viking funeral. Send her off in a blaze of glory. 

Highly debatable when some guy named Ira drove her:P

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2 hours ago, Sneaky Sanchez said:

Heard a rumor that hay bales were used as a wind break. A cup of resin was set down on one of the bales of hay, and forgotten.  

Heard there was also a salamander involved 

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3 hours ago, Sneaky Sanchez said:

Heard a rumor that hay bales were used as a wind break. A cup of resin was set down on one of the bales of hay, and forgotten.  

That is funny.  Only because I heard the exact same story today while I was on a survey from a bloke, who has a boat project at that yard.  It also involved, would you believe, a heater!

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On 12/13/2021 at 2:40 PM, Hitchhiker said:

Hmm. Still can't sell your J-29?

The best is I will take 20K for her delivered.

Some guy came looked at it and went and bought a slower 29 from CT with no trailer and paid 16K

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37 minutes ago, jesposito said:

The best is I will take 20K for her delivered.

Some guy came looked at it and went and bought a slower 29 from CT with no trailer and paid 16K

 Wasn't that boat used to convert the buyer's Frac 29 into a Masthead 29?

 

 I cleared a space for Hustler John.........

 The boat would look great with light blue accent on the port bow

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9 minutes ago, PeterRoss said:

 Wasn't that boat used to convert the buyer's Frac 29 into a Masthead 29?

 

 I cleared a space for Hustler John.........

 The boat would look great with light blue accent on the port bow

I'm not sure, but the boat bought in CT wasn't even competitive with the slower 29s.

 

I like the light blue detailing idea 

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12 minutes ago, Squalamax said:

We still won, right. 

All the time.

Although that year at Block you tried to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory several times:P 

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