Startracker 57 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I have never been more disappointed in someone NOT having a YouTube channel I could find. A good laugh after a tiring day though! https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/flat-earthers-attempt-to-get-to-the-edge-of-the-world-ends-in-massive-disappointment/ So far, not a single flat-Earther has been able to find any proof, which should tell you something about whether the theory has merit, even if you discount all the evidence that Earth is indeed round as a global conspiracy that only YouTuber "GlobeEarthCuck1848174" has seen through. Despite Italy's lockdown, a couple from Venice recently set out to prove Earth's flatness once and for all by sailing to the edge of the world, which they believed to be somewhere near Sicily. It's amazing how people who live locally never visit famous tourist attractions, like the leaning tower of Piza or the edge of the Earth where the sea meets the infinite void. "The two left the Veneto during the lockdown for Lampedusa, violating all restrictions," Salvatore Zichichi of the Maritime Health Office of the Ministry of Health told Italian newspaper La Stampa. "In Termini Imerese they sold their car and bought a boat." "For them, Lampedusa [an island of the Italian Pelagie Islands in the Mediterranean Sea] was the end of the Earth." https://www.newsweek.com/flat-earthers-quarantined-wrong-route-trying-find-end-world-1528943 Salvatore Zichichi, a doctor of the maritime health office of the Ministry of Health who helped the pair after they got lost, pointed out that they were using a compass to help them navigate and said: "The funny thing is that they orient themselves with the compass, an instrument that works on the basis of terrestrial magnetism, a principle that they, as flat-earthers, should reject." The explorers were taken to quarantine. They tried to escape and return to the sea but were again stopped and taken back to quarantine. A few days later, they tried to escape again but were unsuccessful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 4,420 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 I got nothing ...................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zonker 5,248 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Should have let them go and try to find the edge. Just point out to sea and say "Oh, it's that way...." 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,987 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 This story is obviously false because this forum has clearly established that this level of stupidity is reserved exclusively for Americans and no one else. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 9 minutes ago, Voiled said: 3 hours ago, Ajax said: This story is obviously false because this forum has clearly established that this level of stupidity is reserved exclusively for Americans and no one else. I wonder if false feelings of victimhood correlate with absurd defense budgets. I guess that spending some of your formative years circling the world equipped to blow up the world is likely to lead to some odd perspectives, since just doing it requires some intense mental contortions to avoid the onset of painful cognitive dissonance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Voiled said: I wonder if false feelings of victimhood correlate with absurd defense budgets. Or maybe it provides others with a sense of superiority to hide behind, being a country that still holds on to its colonies, fought colonial wars after WWII without irony and placed limpet mines on the Rainbow Warrior so it could set off a nuclear test and keep hanging with the big boys. At least Tom Lehrer is funny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnIdiot 166 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 20 minutes ago, Elegua said: Or maybe it provides others with a sense of superiority to hide behind, being a country that still holds on to its colonies, fought colonial wars after WWII without irony and placed limpet mines on the Rainbow Warrior so it could set off a nuclear test and keep hanging with the big boys. 6 minutes ago, Voiled said: I'm Dutch, that bomb killed a fellow Portuguese/Dutch photographer. Ouch. Here you go, Elegua: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Voiled said: I'm Dutch, that bomb on the Rainbow Warrior killed a fellow Portuguese/Dutch photographer. Oh, ok. Sorry for that. That said, the Dutch did a similar thing right after the war in Indonesia during the revolution as as a member of NATO, those bombs were your bombs. To avoid any more politicization, since we're on a Tom Lehrer kick...I suggest.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 28 minutes ago, Elegua said: Or maybe it provides others with a sense of superiority to hide behind, being a country that still holds on to its colonies, fought colonial wars after WWII without irony and placed limpet mines on the Rainbow Warrior so it could set off a nuclear test and keep hanging with the big boys. France's nuclear bomb programme is ugly, like any such programme. La Force de Frappe's most outrageous episode was probably not the Rainbow Warrior murders, but the Hades missile saga in the late 80s, which was basically targeted at West Germany and used as leverage in some EU negotiation. On joue le hardball. But to be fair to France, it never actually dropped a nuke on people. Only one country has ever done that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Startracker 57 Posted January 4 Author Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, Zonker said: Should have let them go and try to find the edge. Just point out to sea and say "Oh, it's that way...." The best part was their opinion was that the edge was close by, @dylan winter sails beyond it. I would have chuckled if they made it as far as where he sails. Then what? What do you do when you're over the edge of the world? I wonder if someone closer with a boat could take them for a trip. If was I closer I might offer. Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 4,348 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 From what I know all flat earthers believe it is round. Why? Could be square, rectangle, trapezoidal or any number of shapes. In any case no matter what the edge is to reach it every direction will get you there although some will take longer than others. Now, why does the edge(s) always seem to be water, what is wrong with a barren desert, mountain range even a nice swamp? These things are some of what I wonder about and why I get so few invites to parties. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, AnIdiot said: Ouch. Here you go, Elegua: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States Nah, he's not French, and that is my mistake, but he hides behind the same veil of false superiority. After being occupied, the Dutch unironically held on to Indonesia until '49 and deployed the same tactics as the French did in Algeria. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, d'ranger said: Now, why does the edge(s) always seem to be water, what is wrong with a barren desert, mountain range even a nice swamp? If there is an edge where there is water, and the water doesn't flow over that edge, then there must be a wall. I want to know: Is it a low wall, like an infinity pool? Or a high wall, like a fish tank? The best people at building and maintaining walls to keep water in place are the Dutch. Did they get the contract for the edge-of-world wall? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, TwoLegged said: France's nuclear bomb programme is ugly, like any such programme. La Force de Frappe's most outrageous episode was probably not the Rainbow Warrior murders, but the Hades missile saga in the late 80s, which was basically targeted at West Germany and used as leverage in some EU negotiation. On joue le hardball. But to be fair to France, it never actually dropped a nuke on people. Only one country has ever done that. True, but there was a war on, whereas the French only had colonials or NATO to drop bombs on afterwards. I know, WWII is a bit far way for the Irish... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Elegua said: 7 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: But to be fair to France, it never actually dropped a nuke on people. Only one country has ever done that. True, but there was a war on, whereas the French only had colonials or NATO to drop bombs on afterwards. Hmmm. The idea that WMD are OK when there is a war on was not so popular in Murica 19 years ago, when somebody else allegedly held that idea. I didn't expect to see Elegua agreeing with Saddam, but life is full of surprises. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, TwoLegged said: Hmmm. The idea that WMD are OK when there is a war on was not so popular in Murica 19 years ago, when somebody else allegedly held that idea. I didn't expect to see Elegua agreeing with Saddam, but life is full of surprises. Similar to you agreeing that Ireland rightfully belongs to the UK. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 4,348 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: If there is an edge where there is water, and the water doesn't flow over that edge, then there must be a wall. I want to know: Is it a low wall, like an infinity pool? Or a high wall, like a fish tank? The best people at building and maintaining walls to keep water in place are the Dutch. Did they get the contract for the edge-of-world wall? They get my vote although they seem to specialize in keeping water out whereas this requires keeping it in? This thread inspired me to write a script for a movie: Escape From PA. There is no escape as all threads seem to wind up there without actually getting there, its like the ends of the earth in virtual reality. I think Kurt Russel will be interested as he hasn't done much lately. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, Elegua said: 10 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: Hmmm. The idea that WMD are OK when there is a war on was not so popular in Murica 19 years ago, when somebody else allegedly held that idea. I didn't expect to see Elegua agreeing with Saddam, but life is full of surprises. Similar to you agreeing that Ireland rightfully belongs to the UK. False analogy. You defended use of WMD 'cos there was a war on. That was also Saddam's stance, tho he backed down even before he was attacked. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DDW 1,072 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The Earth it flat, surrounded by a wall to keep the water out - of the ring outside it where the intelligent life lives. The dike keeps the water and the cesspool pond life (humans) contained so the can do little damage other that to themselves. I have proof of this but none of you would understand. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 25 minutes ago, Voiled said: I'm puzzled about what that has to do with a false sense of victimhood. Also,the vast majority of my countrymen is totally appalled by those actions. On those current western colonies in the pacific you seem so bothered about: Well, being appalled is a nice thought and all.... Some of those listed are states, some are uninhabited, most are self-governing. Here's a primer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kof 28 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Nothing more to say. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 1,850 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 51 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: False analogy. You defended use of WMD 'cos there was a war on. That was also Saddam's stance, tho he backed down even before he was attacked. Chalk and cheese. I did, as an alternative to invasion to compel Japan to surrender after engaging in four years of total war and the rejection of conditional surrender. In war, like other things, there is proportionality. It's harder to argue that Saddam met that threshold. That's why France has not used its nuclear weapons in it's colonial wars or on NATO. Nothing since WW2 has met that threshold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 933 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, TwoLegged said: If there is an edge where there is water, and the water doesn't flow over that edge, then there must be a wall. I want to know: Is it a low wall, like an infinity pool? Or a high wall, like a fish tank? The best people at building and maintaining walls to keep water in place are the Dutch. Did they get the contract for the edge-of-world wall? In fact there is a net. Built by Krullian salvagers. Don't you study geography? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,364 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Voiled said: Shsss, it's a plot by the global elite with it's main office in the The Hague. The arctic wall let's us control global sea water levels. So not only we got the contract for the Ice Wall but also we vary sea levels as to get contracts around the rest of the world to combat the effects of these changes. So we are, in fact, a One-World Polder? That's strangely reassuring. Really, the physics of a flat earth have been long sorted out. Hub at the middle where the gods live. Compasses point there. Ocean falls over the edge & is recycled as rain by ... magic of some kind. Then four elephants, then a giant turtle. If anyone asks what the turtle stands on, the withering reply is "It's turtles all the way down!" 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,364 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, DDW said: The Earth it flat, surrounded by a wall to keep the water out - of the ring outside it where the intelligent life lives. The dike keeps the water and the cesspool pond life (humans) contained so the can do little damage other that to themselves. I have proof of this but none of you would understand. So basically, we live in a hog farm sewage lagoon. *looks around* Do you have a brochure I could take home and study? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 646 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 All these people that keep the lie alive about the earth being round. Well if it was round, how could a level work. It would have too curve but no, its level. Now, these are the same people that tell us that everything is made of little bitty tiny bits they call atoms. If the world was really made of little itty bitty teeny bits called atoms, I could stick my hand right though steel just like I can stick my hand through sand Don’t believe them, next thing they will tell you is that we can fly to Mars and live there. Since the earth is the middle of the universe, why would we want to go elsewhere. OBTW, I still have this bridge for sale in London, England. Good price on the bridge; call me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 646 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/4/2022 at 12:02 PM, Diarmuid said: So we are, in fact, a One-World Polder? That's strangely reassuring. Really, the physics of a flat earth have been long sorted out. Hub at the middle where the gods live. Compasses point there. Ocean falls over the edge & is recycled as rain by ... magic of some kind. Then four elephants, then a giant turtle. If anyone asks what the turtle stands on, the withering reply is "It's turtles all the way down!" Those are some pretty tough looking Tuskers holding us up. Don’t make them mad. Elephants have a serious reputation of converting humans into grease spots. Can’t imagine how good a job those four fellows could do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CapDave 214 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Whew, that was close! Fogo Island, one of the well known four corners of the flat earth..... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
10thTonner 476 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 But, but… the earth HAS to be round! I mean how else could it be hollow? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,364 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 5 hours ago, 10thTonner said: But, but… the earth HAS to be round! I mean how else could it be hollow? Klein bottle. It's a plane that looks like a sphere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
10thTonner 476 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 1 hour ago, Diarmuid said: Klein bottle. It's a plane that looks like a sphere. You mean like this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voiled 209 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 There's an educational/amusing vid about this dude, he has so many Klein Bottles he has to store them under his floor. The space under his floor is very low so he build a little robot to retrieve them when he sells one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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