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Nicely organised program so far.

 

Deliver boat, fit keel, stand rig, launch, go sailing.... click click click. The way it should be.

 

Red boats = fast.

 

Very interesting "V" bow sections rather than normal "U" sections.

This should make her quite a weapon upwind in chop.

 

A BEAUTIFUL yacht.

I am totally envious.

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Nicely organised program so far.

 

Deliver boat, fit keel, stand rig, launch, go sailing.... click click click. The way it should be.

 

Red boats = fast.

 

Very interesting "V" bow sections rather than normal "U" sections.

This should make her quite a weapon upwind in chop.

 

A BEAUTIFUL yacht.

I am totally envious.

 

Quite different underwater to the TP 52s we have here.

 

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

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And not an Adams Ten to be seen :lol:

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

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And not an Adams Ten to be seen :lol:

Don't forget the millions that have been spent on Flirt in the last 12 months too !!

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

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And not an Adams Ten to be seen :lol:

Don't forget the millions that have been spent on Flirt in the last 12 months too !!

 

Millions might be a bit of a stretch, eh. Two exclamation marks worth? Not sure about that.

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

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And not an Adams Ten to be seen :lol:

There's an early edition of Sportscar that's been sitting there on a dolly for too long.

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

They're just spending their govt. bale out bonuses

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Sandringham Y C, the last outpost of the big spenders...

 

Veloce, Calm, Wicked and now Scarlet Runner and a $13Mill clubhouse too!

 

Admirable fiscal restraint in tough times guys!

They're just spending their govt. bale out bonuses

 

Keeps the marine industry going. Keeps people in jobs.

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SM11 Launched.

 

TBG. Boat looked awesome from beach road this afternoon. Motoring north the red topsides stood out . When it turned left and went west, it went into stealth mode with the black transom. Well done Steve Campbell on the build.

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Great IRC fleet now in Port Philip, however its very conspicuous that not many of them are doing the northern regattas (Whitsundays) this year. Maybe the financial crisis is hurting more than they are saying !!

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Great IRC fleet now in Port Philip, however its very conspicuous that not many of them are doing the northern regattas (Whitsundays) this year. Maybe the financial crisis is hurting more than they are saying !!

Maybe they want to learn which strings to pull first before they go up there. It's early days on the entry list anyway, plenty of time still left to enter.

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TBG. Boat looked awesome from beach road this afternoon. Motoring north the red topsides stood out . When it turned left and went west, it went into stealth mode with the black transom. Well done Steve Campbell on the build.

 

Agree with the above.

I could easily see the red topsides from the SYC outer southerly mark.

A pity there was very little breeze for the first sail, but she looks fantastic.

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Anyone know if Scarlett is lining up for ORCV Winter Series next weekend?

Can't see their IRC rating through as yet on RORC, not an entry on ORCV site (yet?).

 

Some interesting performances to watch next weekend, particularly for new (or modified) boats:

- Calm vs other Div 0's entered (Audi, Goldfinger, XLR8, Extasea, Chutzpah)

- Audi Centre (Flirt) vs Calm - will the mods to Audi's keel improve performance?

- Veloce vs rest of the fleet, including the Div 0's (eg Chutzpah, Extasea!).

- Wicked (Bene F40) Vs Bene F45's (Schuss entered, but can't see Reverie) & the S/38's

- Battle of Sydney 38's (Challenge, Chainsaw, 38 South, Audacious)

 

Also interesting that a number of IRC entrants are not yet showing on the RORC site as having valid / re-validated IRC certs. No result if no cert?

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Anyone know if Scarlett is lining up for ORCV Winter Series next weekend?

Can't see their IRC rating through as yet on RORC, not an entry on ORCV site (yet?).

 

Some interesting performances to watch next weekend, particularly for new (or modified) boats:

- Calm vs other Div 0's entered (Audi, Goldfinger, XLR8, Extasea, Chutzpah)

- Audi Centre (Flirt) vs Calm - will the mods to Audi's keel improve performance?

- Veloce vs rest of the fleet, including the Div 0's (eg Chutzpah, Extasea!).

- Wicked (Bene F40) Vs Bene F45's (Schuss entered, but can't see Reverie) & the S/38's

- Battle of Sydney 38's (Challenge, Chainsaw, 38 South, Audacious)

 

Also interesting that a number of IRC entrants are not yet showing on the RORC site as having valid / re-validated IRC certs. No result if no cert?

 

One of the more interesting match ups may well be SOIREE BLEU (new A40) against WICKED (Benny First 40).

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Anyone know if Scarlett is lining up for ORCV Winter Series next weekend?

Can't see their IRC rating through as yet on RORC, not an entry on ORCV site (yet?).

 

Some interesting performances to watch next weekend, particularly for new (or modified) boats:

- Calm vs other Div 0's entered (Audi, Goldfinger, XLR8, Extasea, Chutzpah)

- Audi Centre (Flirt) vs Calm - will the mods to Audi's keel improve performance?

- Veloce vs rest of the fleet, including the Div 0's (eg Chutzpah, Extasea!).

- Wicked (Bene F40) Vs Bene F45's (Schuss entered, but can't see Reverie) & the S/38's

- Battle of Sydney 38's (Challenge, Chainsaw, 38 South, Audacious)

 

Also interesting that a number of IRC entrants are not yet showing on the RORC site as having valid / re-validated IRC certs. No result if no cert?

 

One of the more interesting match ups may well be SOIREE BLEU (new A40) against WICKED (Benny First 40).

 

Why? Soiree Blue is not a "new model" Arch 40 but is the old A-40 Sandgroper with a new name and owner/crew moving up from a Noelex 30! It has always struggled to raise itself above mediocrity in the past so is unlikely to find sudden new pace in their first outing. Wicked 'should' be heaps quicker but had better hope for some breeze coz she isn't exactly setting the world on fire in the light stuff so far. See Wicked results at: http://syc.com.au/raceresults/2009/kb/wstix_09/series.htm

 

But then, you knew that :rolleyes:

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Why? Soiree Blue is not a "new model" Arch 40 but is the old A-40 Sandgroper with a new name and owner/crew moving up from a Noelex 30! It has always struggled to raise itself above mediocrity in the past so is unlikely to find sudden new pace in their first outing. Wicked 'should' be heaps quicker but had better hope for some breeze coz she isn't exactly setting the world on fire in the light stuff so far. See Wicked results at: http://syc.com.au/raceresults/2009/kb/wstix_09/series.htm

 

But then, you knew that :rolleyes:

 

I did not know that Soiree Blue was the ex-Sandgroper, so maybe not such a good match up!

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Guys,

 

Where is Skanky now days? I am headed over on Sunday for a week and wouldnt mind heading down to have a squiz at something big.

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Why? Soiree Blue is not a "new model" Arch 40 but is the old A-40 Sandgroper with a new name and owner/crew moving up from a Noelex 30! It has always struggled to raise itself above mediocrity in the past so is unlikely to find sudden new pace in their first outing. Wicked 'should' be heaps quicker but had better hope for some breeze coz she isn't exactly setting the world on fire in the light stuff so far. See Wicked results at: http://syc.com.au/raceresults/2009/kb/wstix_09/series.htm

 

 

Big step up from a Noelex 30 to the A-40. Nice choice for an upgrade though. This season will be an interesting one, and possibly the biggest change in fleet structure as far as boat size is concerned for some time.

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If rumours are right, two owners of current Div 0 boats are about to, or have, placed orders for bigger boats. The Dolly may well have a sister or two.

Cougar III would have to be one. The other ?

 

Doubt you will see a new Cougar for a while. Think these rumours might be BS.

Could be wrong though!

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If rumours are right, two owners of current Div 0 boats are about to, or have, placed orders for bigger boats. The Dolly may well have a sister or two.

Cougar III would have to be one. The other ?

 

Doubt you will see a new Cougar for a while. Think these rumours might be BS.

Could be wrong though!

 

There WAS a rumour a couple of months back regarding Cougar's owner looking at Limit. I believe that is a no-go.

 

A problem with going bigger is depth. Scarlett Runner I believe has a draft of 3.7m. Post dredging, SYC marina has a low tide depth of 3.6m approx. so there may need to be some pre-race start scrubbing of the bulb occassionally!

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If rumours are right, two owners of current Div 0 boats are about to, or have, placed orders for bigger boats. The Dolly may well have a sister or two.

Cougar III would have to be one. The other ?

 

Doubt you will see a new Cougar for a while. Think these rumours might be BS.

Could be wrong though!

 

There WAS a rumour a couple of months back regarding Cougar's owner looking at Limit. I believe that is a no-go.

 

A problem with going bigger is depth. Scarlett Runner I believe has a draft of 3.7m. Post dredging, SYC marina has a low tide depth of 3.6m approx. so there may need to be some pre-race start scrubbing of the bulb occassionally!

What about you then Don, you have slipped in a sneaky order for an SC on steroids have you ?

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What about you then Don, you have slipped in a sneaky order for an SC on steroids have you ?

 

I wish I had that amount of freight!!!!

However............I have had RP complete a design study for a new keel.

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I'm considering getting Smooth Criminal measured for ORCc and wonder if any other owners are considering ORCc??

 

Not this little black duck! IMS (even re-badged as ORC) should be left dead and buried IMHO.

Would only re-consider (reluctantly) if and when ORC is introduced to the racing here in Melbourne as the major rating system.

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not at the proposed cost, which IIRC was $1000's

Glen Stanaway from YA quoted the following for us here in Hobart:

 

"$450 ORCi Certificate (rating for scoring)

 

$270 ORCc Certificate (rating for scoring)

 

$180 Stability Data Sheet (for demonstration of resistance to capsize only)

 

$180 Performance Package (for performance targets)

 

 

Note that all prices are plus GST, and may be subject to change."

 

 

 

If anyone wants to see a sample of each certificate PM me and I'll forward the email.

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Scarlett, Audi Centre Melbourne and Stay Calm all out today. What's the goss?????? BTW, one of these owners is rumoured to be one of the guys to order a new boat. The other one is also from the same club. Gotta love mates rates hey!

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Scarlett, Audi Centre Melbourne and Stay Calm all out today. What's the goss?????? BTW, one of these owners is rumoured to be one of the guys to order a new boat. The other one is also from the same club. Gotta love mates rates hey!

 

It was a nice day for a sail. Scarlet and Stay Calm looked great.

 

Sounds like the local builder will be a busy boy when all these new boats start production.

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Scarlett, Audi Centre Melbourne and Stay Calm all out today. What's the goss?????? BTW, one of these owners is rumoured to be one of the guys to order a new boat. The other one is also from the same club. Gotta love mates rates hey!

 

Scarlett Runner & Calm - new boats for their respective owners.... That leaves Audi/Flirt.... Wouldn't it be cheaper to pay someone capable to drive a pretty good boat than buy a new one? Just a thought...

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Did Calm go out today ? Didn't appear anywhere in the results.

 

Yep - were out there, and doing very nicely... until the last leeward mark when (rumour has it) the jib blew out of the track, and it was game-over and they went home.

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Some interesting performances to watch next weekend, particularly for new (or modified) boats:

- Calm vs other Div 0's entered (Audi, Goldfinger, XLR8, Extasea, Chutzpah)

- Audi Centre (Flirt) vs Calm - will the mods to Audi's keel improve performance?

- Veloce vs rest of the fleet, including the Div 0's (eg Chutzpah, Extasea!).

- Wicked (Bene F40) Vs Bene F45's (Schuss entered, but can't see Reverie) & the S/38's

- Battle of Sydney 38's (Challenge, Chainsaw, 38 South, Audacious)

 

A summary from today's racing what I saw.

- Calm looked too have all the Div 0's other than Audi Melbourne's measure. Not bad for the first hit out. Nice to see Pete Williams out sailing with his old man. Will no doubt get better.

- Audi Melbourne seemed a shitload better. Shogun well in her wake. In touch with Calm until they pulled out. You'd think they also would get better once they get used to the major changes.

- Veloce had to go back at the start. Won't do any good if you do that. Looks nice on the water though.

- Wicked went very well. Had all the 38's covered other than Challenge. Should also get better as time goes on.

- Lou and the boys handed out yet another lesson to the other 38s. Can they possibly get any better??

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I have heard that SMB 3 may appear out of harts factory a little longer than what it was when it entered? 51 foot?? Big surgery!!

 

SMB3 has been berthed at Sandy for the last few weeks!

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I have heard that SMB 3 may appear out of harts factory a little longer than what it was when it entered? 51 foot?? Big surgery!!

 

SMB3 has been berthed at Sandy for the last few weeks!

Soon to go the shed, don't know about it being any longer though.

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I have heard that SMB 3 may appear out of harts factory a little longer than what it was when it entered? 51 foot?? Big surgery!!

 

SMB3 has been berthed at Sandy for the last few weeks!

Soon to go the shed, don't know about it being any longer though.

 

 

WM might just be on the money. Looks very sad and neglected at the moment though.

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

 

First, the traditional welcome to SA..... f*ck off newbie!

 

Rumour heard was that the Qantum franchise only had a fixed period, and when it came time to renew (now-ish), the terms of the renewal did not suit many of the existing franchisees... thus the move to Evolution. I don't think this is limited to Melbourne.

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

 

Yep, big bust up at the top, Conrad vs a few of the bigger license holders. There will be alot of other Quantum lofts changing over soon. Will be interesting times for them.

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

 

Yep, big bust up at the top, Conrad vs a few of the bigger license holders. There will be alot of other Quantum lofts changing over soon. Will be interesting times for them.

 

Nearly 40 Q lofts to make the move in a huge shake up for the sail making industry. Watch with interest as this one unfolds :o

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

 

Yep, big bust up at the top, Conrad vs a few of the bigger license holders. There will be alot of other Quantum lofts changing over soon. Will be interesting times for them.

 

Nearly 40 Q lofts to make the move in a huge shake up for the sail making industry. Watch with interest as this one unfolds :o

 

 

Stay tuned as a Q salesman knocks on your door at 8.00pm at night when your putting the kids to bed, and tries to sell you a Q sail made in China that turns up in a box in six weeks. Open ya box and find that the leach tape is missing. Sorry say's the salesman if you can find him. I'll send that right back to China and fix it asap. Six weeks later the wrong box arrives. Sorry mate I'll get on to that straight away as he is about play the 19th,hole at Cape Schanck.

This is the new direction that Quantum in the states wanted your ex local Q lofts to operate. A sewing machine in a shed in the suburbs for after sales service.

Good on the local OZ Q lofts for having the common sense to standup and be loyal to their customer base.

 

And by the way Doug I hate Amway salesman too

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Did anyone notice the previous Qantum Sail makers van turn up at the new Scarlet Runner with a new name on the van (EVOLUTION SAILS)? Whats going on here, has this sail maker parted ways with Qantum?

 

Qantum is giving North great competition, look at the TP52 and recently won the F40 worlds....

 

Yep, big bust up at the top, Conrad vs a few of the bigger license holders. There will be alot of other Quantum lofts changing over soon. Will be interesting times for them.

"CONRAD" WTF. wrong company, wrong decade,
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I had the good fortune to be able to take my family out on a power boat yesterday to watch the ORCV Winter Series racing. Thanks to my good friendJohn Willett for the use of his lovely Back Cove 29 "Saga Blue" for the occasion. Nothing goes to windward in a brisk 20 knot Port Phillip south westerly like 315 HP!

 

I snapped off a couple of hundred photos to add to my collection and I am pleased to now be able to share some of them with fellow Anarchists. PM me if you want higher res copies or ask if I have some of your boat.

 

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Better weather than last Wednesday eh?

 

Check out the backgrounds in the photos - ranged from very grey to very blue and back again. Breeze shifted south west to west and back again, up to 18 kts and down to about 7, choppy seas to flat and back again, all pretty normal for down here- makes for better sailors.

 

PS: no problems with ferries...

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Better weather than last Wednesday eh?

 

Check out the backgrounds in the photos - ranged from very grey to very blue and back again. Pretty normal for down here.

 

BTW, no problems with ferries:P

Still looks better than last week!

 

Glad to be back home, so much it was shorts again!

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Better weather than last Wednesday eh?

 

Check out the backgrounds in the photos - ranged from very grey to very blue and back again. Pretty normal for down here.

 

BTW, no problems with ferries:P

Still looks better than last week!

 

Glad to be back home, so much it was shorts again!

 

Worn the knees out on the long pants mate?

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Better weather than last Wednesday eh?

 

Check out the backgrounds in the photos - ranged from very grey to very blue and back again. Pretty normal for down here.

 

BTW, no problems with ferries:P

Still looks better than last week!

 

Glad to be back home, so much it was shorts again!

 

Worn the knees out on the long pants mate?

NOPE!

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Any thoughts on when the Melbourne boats are heading to Sydney for the Southport race? Looking forward to having a gander whilst they're parked at the CYCA...

 

Mex

Most boats heading out this weekend or maybe a bit later. SR will be leaving later in the week.

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Any thoughts on when the Melbourne boats are heading to Sydney for the Southport race? Looking forward to having a gander whilst they're parked at the CYCA...

 

Mex

Most boats heading out this weekend or maybe a bit later. SR will be leaving later in the week.

 

Who are you sailing with this year, TElf? On a caravan or a new, out of the wrapper weapon?

 

Mex

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Any thoughts on when the Melbourne boats are heading to Sydney for the Southport race? Looking forward to having a gander whilst they're parked at the CYCA...

 

Mex

Most boats heading out this weekend or maybe a bit later. SR will be leaving later in the week.

 

You delivering up this year Andy? Looking forward to drinkies with a few "old boys". I'm in Cairns right now but probably heading back to Airlie in a few days - ENE on the cards for a bit so I'll take it.

 

The bar at the marina is open now. See you there no doubt. PS Don't bring the bloody swine flu with you. It's not here yet.

 

G'day Diz, I see you lurking

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Any thoughts on when the Melbourne boats are heading to Sydney for the Southport race? Looking forward to having a gander whilst they're parked at the CYCA...

 

Mex

Most boats heading out this weekend or maybe a bit later. SR will be leaving later in the week.

 

You delivering up this year Andy? Looking forward to drinkies with a few "old boys". I'm in Cairns right now but probably heading back to Airlie in a few days - ENE on the cards for a bit so I'll take it.

 

The bar at the marina is open now. See you there no doubt. PS Don't bring the bloody swine flu with you. It's not here yet.

 

G'day Diz, I see you lurking

Should be in Mackay inearly August.

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Noticed a few more IRC ratings through now for the Melbourne Fleet:

 

Reverie - Bene First 45 - down from 1.123 last year to 1.120. Was already super-competitive last year, so interesting to see what the drop will do. Noted big difference to sister-ship Schuss @ 1.125.

 

Shogun - 1.313. No change from last year

 

NEW Scarlett Runner: 1.356. Compare to Calm (1.358) , Cougar II (1.350 - up slightly from last year's 1.348), L/Doll (1.396 - up slightly from last year's 1.394).

 

NEW Veloce: 1.222. Hard to judge performance against this rating yet.

 

Shamrock - 1.281. Now puts them well-under sistership XLR8 at 1.301.

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