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Cougar the pacesetter? What about the Doll? If it is sailed well and doesnt break the others might as well not show up. It is easily the best IRC boat in Australia, maybe the world?

Anyone who was at Hammo/Airlie would testify to this. As far as I know its sitting in Sydney with only one rudder though.

 

Scarlett has potential? So far it has been very well sailed and they are getting everything out of it. You're not gonna see any massive improvement because it is already sailed well. It just isnt in the same class as Living Doll.

 

 

Artemis in Geelong? Dont count you're chickens there.

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Cougar the pacesetter? What about the Doll? If it is sailed well and doesnt break the others might as well not show up. It is easily the best IRC boat in Australia, maybe the world?

Anyone who was at Hammo/Airlie would testify to this. As far as I know its sitting in Sydney with only one rudder though.

 

Scarlett has potential? So far it has been very well sailed and they are getting everything out of it. You're not gonna see any massive improvement because it is already sailed well. It just isnt in the same class as Living Doll.

 

 

Artemis in Geelong? Dont count you're chickens there.

 

Agree with your comments Eased, but Cougar (and other competitive TP52s) were not racing at Hammo/Airlie. the two most competitive Melb Div 0 boats has to be Cougar and the Dolly. It should be close between these two boats with the rest of the fleet fighting out the 3rd position.

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

Were you at Airle/Hammo racing in IRC 1? Or did you read it on sail world?

It was all the talk, at times faster than the 60's.

Boats that racked up against it were left open mouthed.

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Cougar the pacesetter? What about the Doll? If it is sailed well and doesnt break the others might as well not show up. It is easily the best IRC boat in Australia, maybe the world?

Anyone who was at Hammo/Airlie would testify to this. As far as I know its sitting in Sydney with only one rudder though.

 

Scarlett has potential? So far it has been very well sailed and they are getting everything out of it. You're not gonna see any massive improvement because it is already sailed well. It just isnt in the same class as Living Doll.

 

 

Artemis in Geelong? Dont count you're chickens there.

 

Agree with your comments Eased, but Cougar (and other competitive TP52s) were not racing at Hammo/Airlie. the two most competitive Melb Div 0 boats has to be Cougar and the Dolly. It should be close between these two boats with the rest of the fleet fighting out the 3rd position.

 

Everyone will be absolutely fired up for their shot at 3rd then.

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Cougar the pacesetter? What about the Doll? If it is sailed well and doesnt break the others might as well not show up. It is easily the best IRC boat in Australia, maybe the world?

Anyone who was at Hammo/Airlie would testify to this. As far as I know its sitting in Sydney with only one rudder though.

 

Scarlett has potential? So far it has been very well sailed and they are getting everything out of it. You're not gonna see any massive improvement because it is already sailed well. It just isnt in the same class as Living Doll.

 

 

Artemis in Geelong? Dont count you're chickens there.

The Doll is sure competitive in the light, but if you haven't noticed, there is normally a 15-20 knot sea breeze in Melbourne during the summer and it is for that reason she won't dominate like she did up north.

 

As for Scarlett, yes the boat has been well sailed to-date, but there in lies the problem. The same key people who were on up north, won't be sailing on the boat over the summer.

 

The Geelong TP - well who knows. It's only a rumour until it turns up.

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Cougar the pacesetter? What about the Doll? If it is sailed well and doesnt break the others might as well not show up. It is easily the best IRC boat in Australia, maybe the world?

Anyone who was at Hammo/Airlie would testify to this. As far as I know its sitting in Sydney with only one rudder though.

 

Scarlett has potential? So far it has been very well sailed and they are getting everything out of it. You're not gonna see any massive improvement because it is already sailed well. It just isnt in the same class as Living Doll.

 

 

Artemis in Geelong? Dont count you're chickens there.

The Doll is sure competitive in the light, but if you haven't noticed, there is normally a 15-20 knot sea breeze in Melbourne during the summer and it is for that reason she won't dominate like she did up north.

 

As for Scarlett, yes the boat has been well sailed to-date, but there in lies the problem. The same key people who were on up north, won't be sailing on the boat over the summer.

 

The Geelong TP - well who knows. It's only a rumour until it turns up.

The doll is a rocket ship in light, can save its time easily on anything even when it overtakes way lower rating boats halfway around the track after breaking starts etc! It Flys. still a little question mark over heavy air /waves and structural integrity. But good on Mike he has invested heavily in yachting and has a winner. Tp 52 from G'town (to be raced from SandY) is a go'er after a few false starts, high rating 1384 but campaigning for Geelong Week.
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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

Were you at Airle/Hammo racing in IRC 1? Or did you read it on sail world?

It was all the talk, at times faster than the 60's.

Boats that racked up against it were left open mouthed.

Sail World ? What's that ?

I was there but not racing, so no first hand experience observing the doll up there. I only commented on the lightness of breeze.

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

 

Interesting Mex, so you're saying the Doll won't win the Range series if it doesn't turn up - big call, interesting to see if you're right.

 

For the rest of you - go for bronze OK!!!

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

 

Interesting Mex, so you're saying the Doll won't win the Range series if it doesn't turn up - big call, interesting to see if you're right.

 

For the rest of you - go for bronze OK!!!

 

 

Apparently the doll is that quick that Michael is going to turn up at the Range with a blowup version and still win.

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Flatbag:

 

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

1. The fence and the marina are both paid for.

 

2. Were RYCV protected by a cute little rock wall from the Northerlies, a floating marina would work, however, until some effective form of wave and ship surge attenuation is available it's not an option.

 

3. If you aren't capable of making the jump from pier to bow carrying a slab of beer in one hand, a winch handle in your teeth and the A2 in your other hand, should you be sailing at all?

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Flatbag:

 

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

1. The fence and the marina are both paid for.

 

2. Were RYCV protected by a cute little rock wall from the Northerlies, a floating marina would work, however, until some effective form of wave and ship surge attenuation is available it's not an option.

 

3. If you aren't capable of making the jump from pier to bow carrying a slab of beer in one hand, a winch handle in your teeth and the A2 in your other hand, should you be sailing at all?

And I hope you drank that slab, HAPPY BIRTHDAY Walrus !!!!!!!! all be it a bit late.

As for the Marina it will be staying for a while (about 20 new piles have been banged in), until we can get dredging and wave / surge attenuation sorted.

SO GET USED TO IT.

Cheers [hickup]

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

Current Div 0 entry list for 09/10 Club Marine (ex Range) Series:

http://www.topyachtsoftware.com/db/aus/ser...=52&Divsn=0

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

Current Div 0 entry list for 09/10 Club Marine (ex Range) Series:

http://www.topyachtsoftware.com/db/aus/ser...=52&Divsn=0

 

An entry list is a bit different to a finishers list...

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

Current Div 0 entry list for 09/10 Club Marine (ex Range) Series:

http://www.topyachtsoftware.com/db/aus/ser...=52&Divsn=0

 

An entry list is a bit different to a finishers list...

 

Just thought it could be construed as an indication of conscious intent. Otherwise, why bother?

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

Current Div 0 entry list for 09/10 Club Marine (ex Range) Series:

http://www.topyachtsoftware.com/db/aus/ser...=52&Divsn=0

 

An entry list is a bit different to a finishers list...

 

Just thought it could be construed as an indication of conscious intent. Otherwise, why bother?

 

I can't disagree with you there. As to your question, I have no idea.

 

Current Blue Water Point Score Entry / Results List

 

MH is also quoted on Living Doll completing the BWPS this season here.

 

Mex

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Apart from Div 0, some other "big boat" match-ups to watch & thoughts for upcoming Race 1 of Club Marine Series from my own humble analysis:

 

A35 Vs First 45 Vs First 40 Vs S/38 Vs A10

 

First 45's (Reverie, Schuss (where is Bluewater?)) Vs First 40 (Wicked)

 

JAMH (sailed very well in ORCV series) Vs F45/F40 Vs S/38s

 

Will Lou's Challenge continue to lead the S/38's?

 

Interesting to see 11M's in Div 1 instead of Div 2 this year!

 

Will RYCV win both Div 1 (Exec Decision) & 2 (Apache/Top Gun) with their Adams 10's?

 

Can anyone beat Surprise in Div 2?

 

Will Intrusion continue to dominate Div 3 and the S/80's

 

Are there some new boats that will clean up the fleet?

 

Who will win Club Series - SYC or RYCV (or does anyone care?)

 

Bring it on....

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Observed on Calm during the SYC Opening Day Sailpast last weekend.

 

Caption time?

 

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As the foul stench of flatulence from the cockpit began to take effect, the bowman moved further and further forward in a desparate search for clean air...

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I know its not a big boat question but can any of you guys offer suggestions about chartering for Geelong (Victoria) week, we race a 34.7 in Dubai so something similar would be ideal.

Cheers

 

Send me a PM as I know of a boat that may be interested in chartering

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Apart from Div 0, some other "big boat" match-ups to watch & thoughts for upcoming Race 1 of Club Marine Series from my own humble analysis:

 

A35 Vs First 45 Vs First 40 Vs S/38 Vs A10

First 40 looks the goods

 

First 45's (Reverie, Schuss (where is Bluewater?)) Vs First 40 (Wicked)

Wicked to dominate the 45's

 

JAMH (sailed very well in ORCV series) Vs F45/F40 Vs S/38s

Should dominate the to 45's, Wicked may just have the IRC rating to beat them and the 38's will struggle, especially those without masthead kite configuration.

 

Will Lou's Challenge continue to lead the S/38's?

Yes, has his works crew back from Hammo, so back to business as usual. Although it would be good if Ian bought Cinquante comes up from G'town to "challenge" him. Although in the mid to light airs, expect to see Lou and Greg on Audacous roll the others with the mast head kites.

 

Interesting to see 11M's in Div 1 instead of Div 2 this year!

Where they need to be with the new splits. Are the 38's still in Div 0?

 

Will RYCV win both Div 1 (Exec Decision) & 2 (Apache/Top Gun) with their Adams 10's?

Possibly div 1, but expect no "Surprises" as to who will dominate div 2 (IRC). Also the Young 88's do ok on windward leewards with the 10s as well.

 

Can anyone beat Surprise in Div 2?

No

 

Will Intrusion continue to dominate Div 3 and the S/80's

If he turns up for all the races instead of playing in New York, Monaco and Geneva. Getting rid of the fat boy wouldn't hurt either.

 

Are there some new boats that will clean up the fleet?

None to clean up.

 

Who will win Club Series - SYC or RYCV (or does anyone care?)

Does anyone care to dominate.

 

Bring it on....

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Observed on Calm during the SYC Opening Day Sailpast last weekend.

 

Caption time?

 

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Reminds me of Geelong 06 when Skandia charged through the start-line at 100knots with the bowman out on the sprit. Our call on the day fits this too..

 

"Very expensive kebab."

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Some big winners on weekend's Club Marine Series in sensational conditions:

Div 0 - good to see the Calm team up on top, and how close the racing was between Calm, Scarlet & Cougar. Its going to be a very competitive summer of racing for the big boats.

Div 1 - Challenge kicked arse showing that the S/38s remain competitive even against the newer designs.

Div 2 - Surprise, surprise, surprise!

Div 3 - Intrusion remains the dominant force in both S/80's and the Div 3 fleet on measured handicaps.

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

 

Mexican thought you may like to know sail number R55 passed through Port Phillip Heads at approx 1820 today heading for Melbourne so the Range Series may be a goer .

Cheers

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Another Syd 38, Wokka Rooklyn's ex Ichi Ban/dit on the way to a new home in Melb.

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

 

Mexican thought you may like to know sail number R55 passed through Port Phillip Heads at approx 1820 today heading for Melbourne so the Range Series may be a goer .

Cheers

 

Nothing like an eye witness to prove me wrong. Sounds like Dolly has had a change of heart and is back in Melbourne to wreak destruction on the Div 0 Club Marine fleet.

 

Mex

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And there was shit-all wind at Hammo, so a bit of a lottery at times

And as mentioned b4 - Doll not in Melb

 

There's a lot of people hard of hearing around here. Living Doll will be competing in the Blue Water Point Score out of CYCA in Sydney this summer. This may make it difficult for her to be competitive in the Range Series in Melbourne...

 

Mex

 

 

Mexican thought you may like to know sail number R55 passed through Port Phillip Heads at approx 1820 today heading for Melbourne so the Range Series may be a goer .

Cheers

 

Nothing like an eye witness to prove me wrong. Sounds like Dolly has had a change of heart and is back in Melbourne to wreak destruction on the Div 0 Club Marine fleet.

 

Mex

What race is on at Sandy this weekend. How many div 0's and what course structure?
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What race is on at Sandy this weekend. How many div 0's and what course structure?

 

SYC aggretagate race 2,

There is only one div zero, but it has seven boats in it (counting block entries at this point, Living Doll is not entered atm),

Laid course as per appendix A.3 - Courses 70 -93

 

PS - It's all in the NoR and Sailing Instructions - they make a good read.

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What race is on at Sandy this weekend. How many div 0's and what course structure?

 

SYC aggretagate race 2,

There is only one div zero, but it has seven boats in it (counting block entries at this point, Living Doll is not entered atm),

Laid course as per appendix A.3 - Courses 70 -93

 

PS - It's all in the NoR and Sailing Instructions - they make a good read.

thanks

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Totally off topic, but was cleaning out the shed and found some old Aus Yachting mags, and in particular the one on the last Wild Thing (the one Wharro asked for the smallest hull he couuld fit under an AC rig - 1998?) and how the new owners had renamed it Martindale and were going to turn it into some super techno short handed boat.

 

Did that ever happen? Does it get sailed these days?

 

Just curious.

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There was a later story where they were showing the new hydraulics they had fitted to the thing to make it into a short hander/automated sailer, but I havent heard much since.

It was rewired, re rigged, and I think they also put a new inside in it as well.

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Apart from Div 0, some other "big boat" match-ups to watch & thoughts for upcoming Race 1 of Club Marine Series from my own humble analysis:

A35 Vs First 45 Vs First 40 Vs S/38 Vs A10

First 40 looks the goods

 

First 45's (Reverie, Schuss (where is Bluewater?)) Vs First 40 (Wicked)

Wicked to dominate the 45's

 

 

Bring it on....

 

Bluewater (first 45 from HBYC) is now called IKON.

Excellent result for race 1.

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Veloce hitting its straps on Saturday in the syc club race in perfect sailing conditions. Beating Calm (sailed well) by 30 secs on IRC and Flirt by a minute and a half. Looking good for an interesting summer in Div 0.

 

Nice reward for Phil & his Veloce team.

Big weekend for Elliott designs with Overload winning the Coastal Classic in NZ too.

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Veloce hitting its straps on Saturday in the syc club race in perfect sailing conditions. Beating Calm (sailed well) by 30 secs on IRC and Flirt by a minute and a half. Looking good for an interesting summer in Div 0.

 

Good to see some close racing between the Div 0's. Not all boats in full racing schedules as yet as some are just back from Qld.

Calm are doing a lot of time on water which will pay dividends Can't say the same for Scarlet seems to spend more time at the dock than sailing.For a new boat it is a bit odd. Did the range races for a couple of thirds on IRC but has sat idle since ? Has entered the Syd-Hob but no Stanley. It had a predominatly interstate crew for hammo so maybe that's its ongoing programme.

Any news on the Geelong Tp arriving. It was wrapped in cling and waiting on the dock OS for shipping a month ago. Some big names connected with this program & a quick boat in its original life.

So as TE commented will be an intresting summer.

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Melbourne-Stanley coming up this weekend, and long range forecast is looking a little on the light side. Where is the typical 20-30kn Southerly that greets the fleets as they stick their nose outside the Rip? Perhaps the BOM is just playing games, and the forecast will change as the start gets closer.

 

Fleet size looks up on previous years. www.orcv.org.au/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=311

 

Tips & comments IMHO....

 

Calm should get Line Honours, or will they (like last year on Georgia) get pipped-at-the-post by Shogun or Audi Centre Melb? If they pull it together, Calm should take IRC.

 

Dekadence first outing under new owner will be interesting to watch against Extasea, who is my tip for AMS win.

 

Godzilla a big chance if the race is light, and then breeze fills in bringing in the smaller boats.

 

First ocean race for Bene 40 Wicked - interesting to watch performance. Chance to win IRC & AMS if conditions suit the mid-fleet. Bass strait conditions, if nasty, may also test the European build.

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I reckon if it's light then Calm will be hard to beat on handicap (she seems fully optimised for the lighter "med" stuff). If it's medium to heavy, then Audi Melbourne will be hard to beat (as she showed in the winter series).

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

 

Lookee here... SMB 3.5 swarming with activity earlier this afternoon.

 

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

 

Lookee here... SMB 3.5 swarming with activity earlier this afternoon.

 

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Men at work...

 

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

 

Lookee here... SMB 3.5 swarming with activity earlier this afternoon.

 

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Men at work...

 

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Great to see that boat back. It looks great (again). Let's hope there are no issues and they can get amongst it throughout summer.

 

So good to see so many competitive 50 foot boats. The more the merrier.

 

Any news about the secret new Geelong TP programme? I think Graeme Wood has fleet of them for sale up here if anyone else down there is shopping around. The blue boats would only need a couple of white stripes and they would be in official Geelong strip. You could just call the boat "Wot", which we all know is how people greet each other in Geelong.

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

 

Lookee here... SMB 3.5 swarming with activity earlier this afternoon.

 

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Men at work...

 

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Rig was reputedly recycled from the last Secret Mens Bizzo but does anyone here know the extent of the recycling or the other changes? Is it a modified hull or all new? Same keel & rudder or new shapes?

 

Expen$ive exercise whatever the changes.

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SMB III putting rig in today at SYC and heading to Adelaide tonight if possible. New hull much more volume, a very similar look to Scarlet would of been interesting to see it out of the water to see if there is any rocker. Disappointed will not get to see the performance improvement until the boat is in Sydney in December.

 

Lookee here... SMB 3.5 swarming with activity earlier this afternoon.

 

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Men at work...

 

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Great to see that boat back. It looks great (again). Let's hope there are no issues and they can get amongst it throughout summer.

 

So good to see so many competitive 50 foot boats. The more the merrier.

 

Any news about the secret new Geelong TP programme? I think Graeme Wood has fleet of them for sale up here if anyone else down there is shopping around. The blue boats would only need a couple of white stripes and they would be in official Geelong strip. You could just call the boat "Wot", which we all know is how people greet each other in Geelong.

LOL

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Rig was reputedly recycled from the last Secret Mens Bizzo but does anyone here know the extent of the recycling or the other changes? Is it a modified hull or all new? Same keel & rudder or new shapes?

 

Expen$ive exercise whatever the changes.

 

Is it just me or does it look like there a lot of boat forward of the mast? The bowman will need to be a fit bugger.

 

Mex

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Good result for Calm on the Stanley race. Line honours and the IRC win by a comfortable margin.

 

Goldfinger also performed well, beating Audi Centre Melb across the line by 30mins, and placing 2nd IRC. Extasea continued to show good form in the ocean with a 3rd on IRC and 2nd AMS.

 

The Bene 40 Wicked sailed a good race to pick up the AMS win. Wicked sailed well in their first ocean race, and was up with many of the bigger boats for most of the race.

 

Race started in a light North-Westerly with kites up out the Rip. Wind then kicked around to the SW in the morning as the sea fog rolled in, and stayed most of the day. Wind stayed on the nose as a light S-SW (5-10kn) with a couple of interesting shifts around to the SE and back to keep the tacticians busy. Wind picked up to 20kn from SW later Saturday, and even up to 30kn for a short period Saturday night. Big boats had the benefit of the increased pressure before the rest of the fleet which allowed them to draw away. Back end of the fleet also had the benefit of coming home with a stronger breeze, which helped them on Performance handicap.

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Calm took line honours and IRC.

 

Looks like Clean and Katie Burns better find another job, at least this reporter gets the facts right and doesn't hog the limelight, just gotta work on timing a little, this may have happened around three days ago!

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Why wasnt Scarlet Runner, Living Doll and Cougar ll racing to Stanley.? Seems hollow victory without serious competition . Looks like the CM Range series will show who is top dog now.

 

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Good result for Calm on the Stanley race. Line honours and the IRC win by a comfortable margin.

 

Goldfinger also performed well, beating Audi Centre Melb across the line by 30mins, and placing 2nd IRC. Extasea continued to show good form in the ocean with a 3rd on IRC and 2nd AMS.

 

The Bene 40 Wicked sailed a good race to pick up the AMS win. Wicked sailed well in their first ocean race, and was up with many of the bigger boats for most of the race.

 

Race started in a light North-Westerly with kites up out the Rip. Wind then kicked around to the SW in the morning as the sea fog rolled in, and stayed most of the day. Wind stayed on the nose as a light S-SW (5-10kn) with a couple of interesting shifts around to the SE and back to keep the tacticians busy. Wind picked up to 20kn from SW later Saturday, and even up to 30kn for a short period Saturday night. Big boats had the benefit of the increased pressure before the rest of the fleet which allowed them to draw away. Back end of the fleet also had the benefit of coming home with a stronger breeze, which helped them on Performance handicap.

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After what seems like weeks of shitful windy and wet weather we head into a new Melbourne sailing season this Saturday with all the major Port Phillip clubs having their opening days.

 

And what does the wind do? It fucking shuts down, thats what!

 

Saturday is looking like being wet with bugger all wind for the season opener so I guess we will all just have to do a Fevola and get seriously shit-faced / rat-arsed or whatever. Tradition demands that we do that so there's nothing else for it really...

 

Sooo.... who is going to star on the Bay this season?

 

What news of another TP 52 program on the Bay, this one out of G-town? Any other new boats or builds?

 

C'mon, spill yer gutz...

 

Weather looks better for tomorrow. Hope it is, we have a nice new fence and gates to officially Open over here. Apparently Sandy are opening the clubhouse again, or is it the car park? Whatever the case free piss will surely be available.

 

Looking at the racing for the summer it must be said that the Melbourne fleet is looking sensational. My tips are as follows.

 

1. There will be no stand-out boat this year, with the competition so even now.

2. Cougar to again be the pace setter, BUT she won't have it all her way as she has done so for the past two years. Dolly, Calm and Audi Melbourne will give her a good run for her money, with the latter very, very much improved in recent months.

3. Scarlett will struggle early but once they get the boat sorted, will show reals promise later in the season. Only to be expected really in a new boat.

4. With the fleet so tight, if you have a shitter it will be a real shitter, so just turing up won't guarantee good results any more.

5. The "smokey" tip is Veloce. Could this be the first Elliot design to win under a rating system?

6. Yes another Tp will soon be in Melbourne for a Geelong owner.

7. By the end of the year at least two Div 0 owners will have ordered new boats.

 

Then again, I tipped the Dogs to win the flag.

 

Division Fuck All (Zero :P ) Predictions:

Calm to struggle for a while yet with structural / mechanical and manpower issues, then to do well in GA's 25th Hobart. Scarlett to hit the track at full pace - scary potential in that sucker. Veloce to win occasionally, not particularly because she's an Elliott design but because she is bloody well sailed by a non rockstar crew who know how to get the best out of their boats. Cougar to fade away as the season progresses and the heat turns up. My smoky would be the new Geelong based TP (older Artemis) with Barney Walker heavily involved in the program. Barney has the mojo to get it up and humming quickly. Chutzpah a complete waste of space in that Division (Sorry Bruce, but you know it's true). Brownfinger to languish mid fleet or worse until sold. XLR8 lost at sea in that company. Deka gone to Hobart so what will Coombsy do? As for the First 45s ; slow boats that rate well eventually get found out. Will Inflatable Doll spend much time in Melbourne this season as MH chases the CYCA Bluewater title? Anything else??

 

Oh yeah,

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

Looks like a great day coming up for the Club opening day Sail Pasts tomorrow; light winds, smooth seas and free piss - an unbeatable combination. Have a good one everybody.

 

Race # 1 of the newly re named Club Marine Series (ex Range) is the following Saturday. As always, when the flag drops, the Bullshit stops... Woohoo, bring it on...

 

Flatbag predictions are obviously created in an intelectual vacuum (your head) "Flag drops ...bullshit stops" is only sense you make. 2 rounds of the Club Marine Range and Calm has shown they have the goods, Scarlet with "scarey potential" is just following along and Veloce hasnt come close. Cougar looks like doing anything but "fading away" and seem to continue dominating the div zero fleet ...and the Dolly only tried their hardest . Flirt maybe the sleeper as all the mods start to work. Steve Jacksons new Tp wont be sailing till new year I hear maybe Docklands.

 

BTW Veloce isnt unique having no rock stars. Most of these Melbourne big boats have full crews of enthusiast yachties with day jobs . The Scarlet had Rock stars at Hammo to get em started but maybe that didnt work out too well..

 

And the association cup is a long way off . We might keep but only if the races can be "managed" and the IRC rating distorted Adams 10s are on pace. Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

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Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

Facilities ? You must be referring to the new Wedding/Function centre eh.

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Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

Facilities ? You must be referring to the new Wedding/Function centre eh.

 

 

Makes for good viewing. The gal with the blue dress and long blonde hair did it for me on Sat UNTIL she got out the fag's. Damm!

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Gotta say the race committee COCKED UP in a major way for last Saturdays Club Marine Series! After a bloody lottery in the second race, with Div 0's slugging it out in light changing conditions, and the lead changing more often than a hooker changes her knickers, the race committee finish boat, WITH AMPLE OPPORTUNITY to shorten course, motored its way back down through the fleet to set a (theoretical) leeward finish line, and then sat there watching the Div 0's catch a small but strenghtening breeze on the final leg, and then ONLY to have them call "Time Limit's Up" with the last boats within 10 minutes of finishing!!!!

 

Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

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Oh, and might I add that I was SO impressed by the professionalism of the guy on the Committee boat who "flipped the bird" at Flirt when they came over at the end to ask what their reasoning was for not shortening course earlier. Too bad the committee cant be protested for unsportsmanlike behaviour! <_<

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Gotta say the race committee COCKED UP in a major way for last Saturdays Club Marine Series! After a bloody lottery in the second race, with Div 0's slugging it out in light changing conditions, and the lead changing more often than a hooker changes her knickers, the race committee finish boat, WITH AMPLE OPPORTUNITY to shorten course, motored its way back down through the fleet to set a (theoretical) leeward finish line, and then sat there watching the Div 0's catch a small but strenghtening breeze on the final leg, and then ONLY to have them call "Time Limit's Up" with the last boats within 10 minutes of finishing!!!!

 

Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

 

It sounds like a bummer, but shit happens. People give up a lot of their time to run races and from time-to-time mistakes are made. It's OK to be frustrated, but "wasting a day of my life" might be overstating the situation, eh?

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Gotta say the race committee COCKED UP in a major way for last Saturdays Club Marine Series! After a bloody lottery in the second race, with Div 0's slugging it out in light changing conditions, and the lead changing more often than a hooker changes her knickers, the race committee finish boat, WITH AMPLE OPPORTUNITY to shorten course, motored its way back down through the fleet to set a (theoretical) leeward finish line, and then sat there watching the Div 0's catch a small but strenghtening breeze on the final leg, and then ONLY to have them call "Time Limit's Up" with the last boats within 10 minutes of finishing!!!!

 

Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

 

It sounds like a bummer, but shit happens. People give up a lot of their time to run races and from time-to-time mistakes are made. It's OK to be frustrated, but "wasting a day of my life" might be overstating the situation, eh?

 

I guess you're right - they only wasted several hours of it! :P

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Oh, and might I add that I was SO impressed by the professionalism of the guy on the Committee boat who "flipped the bird" at Flirt when they came over at the end to ask what their reasoning was for not shortening course earlier. Too bad the committee cant be protested for unsportsmanlike behaviour! <_<

 

It was the way they did it which was so hurtful:

 

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Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

 

It sounds like a bummer, but shit happens. People give up a lot of their time to run races and from time-to-time mistakes are made. It's OK to be frustrated, but "wasting a day of my life" might be overstating the situation, eh?

 

Thrift.. If u ain't gunna say it !! I will....

 

FUCK OFF 0Risk NEWB..

 

Hope I can wave to you volunteering on the committe boat next time out...

 

Cos.

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Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

 

It sounds like a bummer, but shit happens. People give up a lot of their time to run races and from time-to-time mistakes are made. It's OK to be frustrated, but "wasting a day of my life" might be overstating the situation, eh?

 

Thrift.. If u ain't gunna say it !! I will....

 

FUCK OFF 0Risk NEWB..

 

Hope I can wave to you volunteering on the committe boat next time out...

 

Cos.

 

 

Fuck off, yourself, Costanza - you're obviously one of those wankers who equates number of posts with intelligence, which you exhibit a total lack of by falling back on the lame old "Newb" insult. You might have got more respect if you had stuck to "my dad's bigger than your dad".

 

I've been involved in enough committees in my time, including organising some pretty decent size regattas, to know when I see a mistake on the water. And depending on just how long you've been sailing, you may well have already waved to me before, though you'd be a newb in my book if you've only been sailing 10 or 15 years.

 

Race organisers ARE a great bunch of people, but they're not a protected species. If they make a shitty call, they're fair game and they should cop it on the chin, not just flip the finger at the competitors.

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After what seems like weeks of shitful windy and wet weather we head into a new Melbourne sailing season this Saturday with all the major Port Phillip clubs having their opening days.

 

And what does the wind do? It fucking shuts down, thats what!

 

Saturday is looking like being wet with bugger all wind for the season opener so I guess we will all just have to do a Fevola and get seriously shit-faced / rat-arsed or whatever. Tradition demands that we do that so there's nothing else for it really...

 

Sooo.... who is going to star on the Bay this season?

 

What news of another TP 52 program on the Bay, this one out of G-town? Any other new boats or builds?

 

C'mon, spill yer gutz...

 

Weather looks better for tomorrow. Hope it is, we have a nice new fence and gates to officially Open over here. Apparently Sandy are opening the clubhouse again, or is it the car park? Whatever the case free piss will surely be available.

 

Looking at the racing for the summer it must be said that the Melbourne fleet is looking sensational. My tips are as follows.

 

1. There will be no stand-out boat this year, with the competition so even now.

2. Cougar to again be the pace setter, BUT she won't have it all her way as she has done so for the past two years. Dolly, Calm and Audi Melbourne will give her a good run for her money, with the latter very, very much improved in recent months.

3. Scarlett will struggle early but once they get the boat sorted, will show reals promise later in the season. Only to be expected really in a new boat.

4. With the fleet so tight, if you have a shitter it will be a real shitter, so just turing up won't guarantee good results any more.

5. The "smokey" tip is Veloce. Could this be the first Elliot design to win under a rating system?

6. Yes another Tp will soon be in Melbourne for a Geelong owner.

7. By the end of the year at least two Div 0 owners will have ordered new boats.

 

Then again, I tipped the Dogs to win the flag.

 

Division Fuck All (Zero :P ) Predictions:

Calm to struggle for a while yet with structural / mechanical and manpower issues, then to do well in GA's 25th Hobart. Scarlett to hit the track at full pace - scary potential in that sucker. Veloce to win occasionally, not particularly because she's an Elliott design but because she is bloody well sailed by a non rockstar crew who know how to get the best out of their boats. Cougar to fade away as the season progresses and the heat turns up. My smoky would be the new Geelong based TP (older Artemis) with Barney Walker heavily involved in the program. Barney has the mojo to get it up and humming quickly. Chutzpah a complete waste of space in that Division (Sorry Bruce, but you know it's true). Brownfinger to languish mid fleet or worse until sold. XLR8 lost at sea in that company. Deka gone to Hobart so what will Coombsy do? As for the First 45s ; slow boats that rate well eventually get found out. Will Inflatable Doll spend much time in Melbourne this season as MH chases the CYCA Bluewater title? Anything else??

 

Oh yeah,

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

Looks like a great day coming up for the Club opening day Sail Pasts tomorrow; light winds, smooth seas and free piss - an unbeatable combination. Have a good one everybody.

 

Race # 1 of the newly re named Club Marine Series (ex Range) is the following Saturday. As always, when the flag drops, the Bullshit stops... Woohoo, bring it on...

 

Flatbag predictions are obviously created in an intelectual vacuum (your head) "Flag drops ...bullshit stops" is only sense you make. 2 rounds of the Club Marine Range and Calm has shown they have the goods, Scarlet with "scarey potential" is just following along and Veloce hasnt come close. Cougar looks like doing anything but "fading away" and seem to continue dominating the div zero fleet ...and the Dolly only tried their hardest . Flirt maybe the sleeper as all the mods start to work. Steve Jacksons new Tp wont be sailing till new year I hear maybe Docklands.

 

BTW Veloce isnt unique having no rock stars. Most of these Melbourne big boats have full crews of enthusiast yachties with day jobs . The Scarlet had Rock stars at Hammo to get em started but maybe that didnt work out too well..

 

And the association cup is a long way off . We might keep but only if the races can be "managed" and the IRC rating distorted Adams 10s are on pace. Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

 

First to admit my 09/10 Season predictions are down the toilet! Calm have had hydraulics issues but not in the Range races, First 45s have hit hard and fast, sailing much better than previous history would indicate. Scarlet still has the scary potential but racing that boat with a bunch of mates isn't going to cut it at that level. It might be idealistic fun but the speed smarts ain't there despite owners background. Veloce closer than you may think, jury still out on that boat. Cougs doin' OK so far but should be overhauled soon by a newer marque TP52 or two...

 

As for Sandy, the

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After what seems like weeks of shitful windy and wet weather we head into a new Melbourne sailing season this Saturday with all the major Port Phillip clubs having their opening days.

 

And what does the wind do? It fucking shuts down, thats what!

 

Saturday is looking like being wet with bugger all wind for the season opener so I guess we will all just have to do a Fevola and get seriously shit-faced / rat-arsed or whatever. Tradition demands that we do that so there's nothing else for it really...

 

Sooo.... who is going to star on the Bay this season?

 

What news of another TP 52 program on the Bay, this one out of G-town? Any other new boats or builds?

 

C'mon, spill yer gutz...

 

Weather looks better for tomorrow. Hope it is, we have a nice new fence and gates to officially Open over here. Apparently Sandy are opening the clubhouse again, or is it the car park? Whatever the case free piss will surely be available.

 

Looking at the racing for the summer it must be said that the Melbourne fleet is looking sensational. My tips are as follows.

 

1. There will be no stand-out boat this year, with the competition so even now.

2. Cougar to again be the pace setter, BUT she won't have it all her way as she has done so for the past two years. Dolly, Calm and Audi Melbourne will give her a good run for her money, with the latter very, very much improved in recent months.

3. Scarlett will struggle early but once they get the boat sorted, will show reals promise later in the season. Only to be expected really in a new boat.

4. With the fleet so tight, if you have a shitter it will be a real shitter, so just turing up won't guarantee good results any more.

5. The "smokey" tip is Veloce. Could this be the first Elliot design to win under a rating system?

6. Yes another Tp will soon be in Melbourne for a Geelong owner.

7. By the end of the year at least two Div 0 owners will have ordered new boats.

 

Then again, I tipped the Dogs to win the flag.

 

Division Fuck All (Zero :P ) Predictions:

Calm to struggle for a while yet with structural / mechanical and manpower issues, then to do well in GA's 25th Hobart. Scarlett to hit the track at full pace - scary potential in that sucker. Veloce to win occasionally, not particularly because she's an Elliott design but because she is bloody well sailed by a non rockstar crew who know how to get the best out of their boats. Cougar to fade away as the season progresses and the heat turns up. My smoky would be the new Geelong based TP (older Artemis) with Barney Walker heavily involved in the program. Barney has the mojo to get it up and humming quickly. Chutzpah a complete waste of space in that Division (Sorry Bruce, but you know it's true). Brownfinger to languish mid fleet or worse until sold. XLR8 lost at sea in that company. Deka gone to Hobart so what will Coombsy do? As for the First 45s ; slow boats that rate well eventually get found out. Will Inflatable Doll spend much time in Melbourne this season as MH chases the CYCA Bluewater title? Anything else??

 

Oh yeah,

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

Looks like a great day coming up for the Club opening day Sail Pasts tomorrow; light winds, smooth seas and free piss - an unbeatable combination. Have a good one everybody.

 

Race # 1 of the newly re named Club Marine Series (ex Range) is the following Saturday. As always, when the flag drops, the Bullshit stops... Woohoo, bring it on...

 

Flatbag predictions are obviously created in an intelectual vacuum (your head) "Flag drops ...bullshit stops" is only sense you make. 2 rounds of the Club Marine Range and Calm has shown they have the goods, Scarlet with "scarey potential" is just following along and Veloce hasnt come close. Cougar looks like doing anything but "fading away" and seem to continue dominating the div zero fleet ...and the Dolly only tried their hardest . Flirt maybe the sleeper as all the mods start to work. Steve Jacksons new Tp wont be sailing till new year I hear maybe Docklands.

 

BTW Veloce isnt unique having no rock stars. Most of these Melbourne big boats have full crews of enthusiast yachties with day jobs . The Scarlet had Rock stars at Hammo to get em started but maybe that didnt work out too well..

 

And the association cup is a long way off . We might keep but only if the races can be "managed" and the IRC rating distorted Adams 10s are on pace. Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

 

First to admit my 09/10 Season predictions are down the toilet! Calm have had hydraulics issues but not in the Range races, First 45s have hit hard and fast, sailing much better than previous history would indicate. Scarlet still has the scary potential but racing that boat with a bunch of mates isn't going to cut it at that level. It might be idealistic fun but the speed smarts ain't there despite owners background. Veloce closer than you may think, jury still out on that boat. Cougs doin' OK so far but should be overhauled soon by a newer marque TP52 or two...

 

As for Sandy, the foyer stinks like a country pub dunny after a bucks night, the Bar is too hot in the late afternoon sun and too bloody small anyway forcing everyone out onto the deck which is nice but has fuck all shade. Foods good though :lol:

 

As for the fence; seems the council made SYC place temporary barriers above the car park immediately south of the main gate to stop the natives cascading lemming-like into the new carpark.

 

No complaints about race management on Saturday. Any bozo who thinks they could do better in conditions like that is a fucking moron. They did the best they could in unusually trying conditions. So Div Zero lost out on a race; big deal-it happens commonly in this sport.

Zero Ability; if you don't like it, suggest you take up knitting; it's got a whole lot less variables and should suit your constitution better.

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Division Fuck All (Zero :P ) Predictions:

Calm to struggle for a while yet with structural / mechanical and manpower issues, then to do well in GA's 25th Hobart. Scarlett to hit the track at full pace - scary potential in that sucker. Veloce to win occasionally, not particularly because she's an Elliott design but because she is bloody well sailed by a non rockstar crew who know how to get the best out of their boats. Cougar to fade away as the season progresses and the heat turns up. My smoky would be the new Geelong based TP (older Artemis) with Barney Walker heavily involved in the program. Barney has the mojo to get it up and humming quickly. Chutzpah a complete waste of space in that Division (Sorry Bruce, but you know it's true). Brownfinger to languish mid fleet or worse until sold. XLR8 lost at sea in that company. Deka gone to Hobart so what will Coombsy do? As for the First 45s ; slow boats that rate well eventually get found out. Will Inflatable Doll spend much time in Melbourne this season as MH chases the CYCA Bluewater title? Anything else??

 

Oh yeah,

RYCV to retain the Association Cup and also to win the inaugural Yachting Australia "Extravagant Front Fence of the Year" award while their rickety marina falls apart and disgruntled members start to desert.

 

Looks like a great day coming up for the Club opening day Sail Pasts tomorrow; light winds, smooth seas and free piss - an unbeatable combination. Have a good one everybody.

 

Race # 1 of the newly re named Club Marine Series (ex Range) is the following Saturday. As always, when the flag drops, the Bullshit stops... Woohoo, bring it on...

 

Flatbag predictions are obviously created in an intelectual vacuum (your head) "Flag drops ...bullshit stops" is only sense you make. 2 rounds of the Club Marine Range and Calm has shown they have the goods, Scarlet with "scarey potential" is just following along and Veloce hasnt come close. Cougar looks like doing anything but "fading away" and seem to continue dominating the div zero fleet ...and the Dolly only tried their hardest . Flirt maybe the sleeper as all the mods start to work. Steve Jacksons new Tp wont be sailing till new year I hear maybe Docklands.

 

BTW Veloce isnt unique having no rock stars. Most of these Melbourne big boats have full crews of enthusiast yachties with day jobs . The Scarlet had Rock stars at Hammo to get em started but maybe that didnt work out too well..

 

And the association cup is a long way off . We might keep but only if the races can be "managed" and the IRC rating distorted Adams 10s are on pace. Shouldnt be too cocky particularly now with a few Royals members quietly moving across to Sandys shit hot new facilities. Grub isnt too bad there ....and their extravagent fence doesnt need any rebuilding either.

 

First to admit my 09/10 Season predictions are down the toilet! Calm have had hydraulics issues but not in the Range races, First 45s have hit hard and fast, sailing much better than previous history would indicate. Scarlet still has the scary potential but racing that boat with a bunch of mates isn't going to cut it at that level. It might be idealistic fun but the speed smarts ain't there despite owners background. Veloce closer than you may think, jury still out on that boat. Cougs doin' OK so far but should be overhauled soon by a newer marque TP52 or two...

 

As for Sandy, the foyer stinks like a country pub dunny after a bucks night, the Bar is too hot in the late afternoon sun and too bloody small anyway forcing everyone out onto the deck which is nice but has fuck all shade. Foods good though :lol:

 

As for the fence; seems the council made SYC place temporary barriers above the car park immediately south of the main gate to stop the natives cascading lemming-like into the new carpark.

 

No complaints about race management on Saturday. Any bozo who thinks they could do better in conditions like that is a fucking moron. They did the best they could in unusually trying conditions. So Div Zero lost out on a race; big deal-it happens commonly in this sport.

Zero Ability; if you don't like it, suggest you take up knitting; it's got a whole lot less variables and should suit your constitution better.

 

Thanks for the unerring benefits of your 20/20 hindsight, Flatbag. If you have no complaints about Saturdays race management, you were either:

a) in Div 1, who actually got a result

b ) on a Div 0 boat that was about to have it's arse kicked in the results

c) on the Committee boat, kissing each others arses about their own god-like powers that let them play with Div 0 boats like they're home in a bath-tub

d) not even FUCKING there... which is quite probable

 

If you reckon exceeding time limits "happens quite regularly in this sport", you're totally out of touch or regularly finishing at the back of the fleet at the other end of the time limit. It does NOT happen quite regularly, and should NEVER happen if you have a competent race committee with AMPLE time to shorten like there was on Saturday.

 

Flame on, Fuck-Knuckles! :lol:

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The Doll missed the time limit by 1.5 mins and you think that the committee made a bad call, shit thats pretty close in my book.

 

Like they said before, they did a job which is thanksless, and there would be more shit flying if everyone went home without a result.

 

As for the the bird ??? Maybe inappropriate but for fucks sake, cant we have a laugh. Not sure about you guys, but I do this for fun.

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Another sterling performance from the race organisers from the Northen end of the Bay! But then again, they wouldnt want Doll to get beaten, would they???

 

Thanks for wasting a day of my life, race committee! :angry:

 

It sounds like a bummer, but shit happens. People give up a lot of their time to run races and from time-to-time mistakes are made. It's OK to be frustrated, but "wasting a day of my life" might be overstating the situation, eh?

 

Thrift.. If u ain't gunna say it !! I will....

 

FUCK OFF 0Risk NEWB..

 

Hope I can wave to you volunteering on the committe boat next time out...

 

Cos.

 

 

Fuck off, yourself, Costanza - you're obviously one of those wankers who equates number of posts with intelligence, which you exhibit a total lack of by falling back on the lame old "Newb" insult. You might have got more respect if you had stuck to "my dad's bigger than your dad".

 

I've been involved in enough committees in my time, including organising some pretty decent size regattas, to know when I see a mistake on the water. And depending on just how long you've been sailing, you may well have already waved to me before, though you'd be a newb in my book if you've only been sailing 10 or 15 years.

 

Race organisers ARE a great bunch of people, but they're not a protected species. If they make a shitty call, they're fair game and they should cop it on the chin, not just flip the finger at the competitors.

Dear Mr Risk,

If you'd spent any time at all in these forums, you would've realised that Costanza's fuck off is the STANDARD greeting for newbies.

And clearly from your post, you have no idea who Costanza is.

 

I would waste time insulting you, if you had not done such a good job of it yourself.

So, once again, fuck off.

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Been on holidays for a few weeks and looks like I've missed alot of action. I'll leave the shit fight re saturday's can't finish a race in 2.5 hrs up to those who were there, but must ask if anyone's heard the rumour re a certain "well placed" boat in the Stanley Race using an unrated sail to their significant advantage. I hear claiming ignorance of how certain sails are measured under IRC will only get you so far without people getting pissed off.

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Been on holidays for a few weeks and looks like I've missed alot of action. I'll leave the shit fight re saturday's can't finish a race in 2.5 hrs up to those who were there, but must ask if anyone's heard the rumour re a certain "well placed" boat in the Stanley Race using an unrated sail to their significant advantage. I hear claiming ignorance of how certain sails are measured under IRC will only get you so far without people getting pissed off.

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Dear Mr Risk,

If you'd spent any time at all in these forums, you would've realised that Costanza's fuck off is the STANDARD greeting for newbies.

And clearly from your post, you have no idea who Costanza is.

 

I would waste time insulting you, if you had not done such a good job of it yourself.

So, once again, fuck off.

 

Yes, you're probably right, PHB... a newbie like me would have no idea whether his initials are AD or whether he could sail a Mini Transat. I probably wouldnt even know whether he sails out of Royals. What would a newb know??? :rolleyes:

 

LOL - so easy to to get you guys going! :lol:

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Been on holidays for a few weeks and looks like I've missed alot of action. I'll leave the shit fight re saturday's can't finish a race in 2.5 hrs up to those who were there, but must ask if anyone's heard the rumour re a certain "well placed" boat in the Stanley Race using an unrated sail to their significant advantage. I hear claiming ignorance of how certain sails are measured under IRC will only get you so far without people getting pissed off.
interesting, details any one?? Hull colour and what sail?
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Been on holidays for a few weeks and looks like I've missed alot of action. I'll leave the shit fight re saturday's can't finish a race in 2.5 hrs up to those who were there, but must ask if anyone's heard the rumour re a certain "well placed" boat in the Stanley Race using an unrated sail to their significant advantage. I hear claiming ignorance of how certain sails are measured under IRC will only get you so far without people getting pissed off.
interesting, details any one?? Hull colour and what sail?
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The Doll missed the time limit by 1.5 mins and you think that the committee made a bad call, shit thats pretty close in my book.

 

Like they said before, they did a job which is thankless, and there would be more shit flying if everyone went home without a result.

 

As for the the bird ??? Maybe inappropriate but for fucks sake, cant we have a laugh. Not sure about you guys, but I do this for fun.

 

Huwp - well done by the Floral Shirt Brigade in the Div 1 event on Saturday.

 

If ZR thinks that races aren't timed out regularly and at all levels of the sport from Optis to the Olympics and now right on up to the startospheric heights of the Melbourne Div 0 fleet then he either hasn't done as much racing a he would have us believe or he's been very fortunate; his bleatings here would loudly suggest the former.

He will also learn, to his detriment, that dissing race officials on a public forum will win him little support. I haven't seen or heard much in the way of support for his abusive claim. After coming ashore on Saturday I spoke with many Div 0 sailors and some of the poor saps ( owners), some of whom expressed varying levels of disappointment but all were philosophically accepting of the R/Os call in what were obviously trying conditions. Disappointment is fine but ZRs vitriolic attack is way, way OTT.

 

Perhaps Z R could pick up the phone and call the R/O for an explanation; I'm sure he knows who he is and how to make contact. But then, that would require very much more more Testicular Fortitude than anonymously lambasting the R/O on a public internet forum.

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Been on holidays for a few weeks and looks like I've missed alot of action. I'll leave the shit fight re saturday's can't finish a race in 2.5 hrs up to those who were there, but must ask if anyone's heard the rumour re a certain "well placed" boat in the Stanley Race using an unrated sail to their significant advantage. I hear claiming ignorance of how certain sails are measured under IRC will only get you so far without people getting pissed off.
interesting, details any one?? Hull colour and what sail?

 

Amazing anyone saw anything in the dark or in the fog. You could've used a Whomper-Parachute-Seecret-Weapon and no one would know:

 

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The Doll missed the time limit by 1.5 mins and you think that the committee made a bad call, shit thats pretty close in my book.

 

Like they said before, they did a job which is thankless, and there would be more shit flying if everyone went home without a result.

 

As for the the bird ??? Maybe inappropriate but for fucks sake, cant we have a laugh. Not sure about you guys, but I do this for fun.

 

Huwp - well done by the Floral Shirt Brigade in the Div 1 event on Saturday.

 

If ZR thinks that races aren't timed out regularly and at all levels of the sport from Optis to the Olympics and now right on up to the startospheric heights of the Melbourne Div 0 fleet then he either hasn't done as much racing a he would have us believe or he's been very fortunate; his bleatings here would loudly suggest the former.

He will also learn, to his detriment, that dissing race officials on a public forum will win him little support. I haven't seen or heard much in the way of support for his abusive claim. After coming ashore on Saturday I spoke with many Div 0 sailors and some of the poor saps ( owners), some of whom expressed varying levels of disappointment but all were philosophically accepting of the R/Os call in what were obviously trying conditions. Disappointment is fine but ZRs vitriolic attack is way, way OTT.

 

Perhaps Z R could pick up the phone and call the R/O for an explanation; I'm sure he knows who he is and how to make contact. But then, that would require very much more more Testicular Fortitude than anonymously lambasting the R/O on a public internet forum.

 

Aah, now that was eloquently put, and a whole lot more incisive than "fuck off Newb". I dont consider the original post "vitriolic", pointed though it was, but I dont mind admitting to a bit of vitriol being batted back at the initial responders who could come up with nothing better than "F.O. Newb".

 

And I wasnt looking for support - that would be a truly pointless exercise on this site.

 

And yes, I know who the R/O is - in fact, met him for the first time about 28 years ago, long before he was doing this stuff - I personally think he's great at what he does, but that doesnt make him OR THOSE ASSISTING HIM sacred cow's. Their decisions are not always correct, and it's fair enough to say so.

 

But nice to have a nice articulate response from you F.B. - makes a great point of contrast to the other flamers!

 

Nuff said! B)

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