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Oh yeah Flaps, I sure have. And this is what Jose Solorio has to say about it. Which is pretty much nothing of f'ng import nor substance.

 

This state is committing suicide and no one will stop it. I find it comical now and very amusing as it friggen bleeds to death........

 

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Editorial: War between the states

Nevada fired the first shot, targeting California's lousy business climate.

A Register editorial

 

 

A good, old-fashioned advertising war has erupted between California and Nevada. At issue is which venue is more business-friendly.

 

Nevada says it's more business friendly because it has no corporate income tax, no personal income tax and its worker compensation fees are much lower.

 

California says it's more business friendly because, well, because California has a lot of consumers and nice weather.

 

Nevada's campaign is the latest in a series run by bordering states to lure dissatisfied California businesses to greener pastures. Paid for by the Nevada Development Authority, the TV, radio and print ads ridicule California. One ad asks: "California will be more pro-business …when?" and shows a picture of a pig with wings.

 

That apparently was the last straw for Assemblyman Jose Solorio, D-Anaheim, who told us the Nevada ads were "over the top and offensive." In retaliation, he launched a website and ad campaign paid for by his reelection campaign to defend the Golden State's honor, such as it is.

 

"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas," one pro-California ad says, capitalizing on another widely seen Las Vegas promotion, "but what happens in California makes the world go round."

 

It strikes us that Nevadans stress dollars and sense. The California retort resorts to feelings. Rather than point out that Nevada's unemployment is even higher and its housing markets even more devastated than California's, Mr. Solorio's ad falls back on "devoted Californians ... voic(ing) their state pride. . ."

 

Mr. Solorio is offended by Nevadans' negative approach. Should we be offended that he holds himself up to be "one of the Legislature's pro-jobs, pro-business Democrats?"

 

Assemblyman Solorio voted in January along with every legislative Democrat, including whatever other "pro-job, pro-business" members of their party there may be, to impose California's highest-ever tax increase, $12.5 billion in income, sales and car taxes. Four months later, Mr. Solorio told us he voted for ballot measures to impose a $16 billion extension of the same taxes, but was out-voted by Californians.

 

Rather than promote feel-good advertisements dodging the issue, Mr. Solorio ought to vote to undo the damage already inflicted on California's battered businesses. But Democrats in Sacramento already are clamoring for more new taxes.

 

Worse yet, the state's tax reform commission is about to propose three major tax increases for legislators to consider. One would increase businesses' taxes by removing their Proposition 13 property tax limits. Another would add a new "carbon tax." A third would impose a "net business receipts tax," like Europe's value-added tax. Mr. Solorio and his "pro-job, pro-business" friends soon will have an opportunity for substantive action, as opposed to feel-good sloganeering.

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classic .

 

try living in MI , TAXES ,law suits , more STATE TAXES ,REGS ,INSURANCES, FINES. FEES etc

 

Detriot {the murder capitol of the nation } seems the model among the D party faithfull , they took out Welfare reforms of the 90s and just keep imposing taxes and hidden taxes on us all. They wasted nearly a trillion on rewarding political cronyism , are trying push through govt care , and have no plan for the economy other than to print more paper to try to hide the debt they are increasing at 4 times the rate .

 

All this is unprecendent in history and no one has trust or belief in govt for good reasons .

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classic .

 

try living in MI , TAXES ,law suits , more STATE TAXES ,REGS ,INSURANCES, FINES. FEES etc

 

Detriot {the murder capitol of the nation } seems the model among the D party faithfull , they took out Welfare reforms of the 90s and just keep imposing taxes and hidden taxes on us all. They wasted nearly a trillion on rewarding political cronyism , are trying push through govt care , and have no plan for the economy other than to print more paper to try to hide the debt they are increasing at 4 times the rate .

 

All this is unprecendent in history and no one has trust or belief in govt for good reasons .

 

Congrats Carl.I just heard today that not only is Michy's unemployment rate the highest in the nation at 18%, but that you guys actually are the only ones who spend more on prisoners than we do.

 

 

Let me know how that all f'ng works out for you guys............

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classic .

 

try living in MI , TAXES ,law suits , more STATE TAXES ,REGS ,INSURANCES, FINES. FEES etc

 

Detriot {the murder capitol of the nation } seems the model among the D party faithfull , they took out Welfare reforms of the 90s and just keep imposing taxes and hidden taxes on us all. They wasted nearly a trillion on rewarding political cronyism , are trying push through govt care , and have no plan for the economy other than to print more paper to try to hide the debt they are increasing at 4 times the rate .

 

All this is unprecendent in history and no one has trust or belief in govt for good reasons .

 

Congrats Carl.I just heard today that not only is Michy's unemployment rate the highest in the nation at 18%, but that you guys actually are the only ones who spend more on prisoners than we do.

 

 

Let me know how that all f'ng works out for you guys............

 

 

Mi was in a single state recession years before the national one hit --it has been years of mysery here .

 

You wouldn't believe the look in the eyes of the few guys left in the biz -it is desperate for many ,they are beaten down into nothing , most have lost everything .

 

Too many people taking and sucking off the govt tit --too few working or willing to if they could find work .

 

There are 2,3 million fewer people working now than last year and it keeps getting worse .

 

Obama does want to send GITMO terrorists to Standish MI --so that should really help us soon with the prison population thing . Maybe we can just give them all the same govt health care that the Lockerbe bomber recieved in Scotland as he developed advanced cancer undetected and sent home to Lybia to die a slow mysterable death there .

 

Or perhaps we can just intermix the terrorists with general hardened prison population ,put them on an island in the Great Lakes and give them all deer rifles and 5 rounds each .

 

I always try top look on the hopeychangey bright side of things or any situation ;)

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When our govt. becomes this corrupt , power money greed driven, inept , and failing {we the people } must rise up and take govt back .

 

It is a wonderfull process and the only thing that keeps me going somedays with a small biz in the worst state }MI} in the hardest hit category {BUILDING & DESIGN } is the fact that people are starting to rise up ,speak out , and take GOVT back .

 

Free enterprize is the very foundation the nation is built on , once that begins to fail from poor planning and extreme loads and ill concieved imbalanced add ons piled on stressing it to its breaking point the whole structure collapses from the weight placed on it .

 

Obama Dodds Frank Pelosi Reid and co have no clue what they are doing , have no real plan or blueprint to get the nation out from the inane cycle of spend and tax and spend then print more paper to try to cover it . The extremist socialistic mentality and agenda and top heavy burdens they throw on top of others backs {always the middle class working person} is causing the further decay and stressing the foundation top the point of total failure .

 

real hope and change --

 

Repairs for Broken Systems

By John P. Avlon

Citizens in California and New York are pushing for constitutional conventions.

 

Frustrated with steep budget deficits, unprecedented spending, and chronic government dysfunction, citizens in a growing number of states are calling for constitutional conventions. In recent weeks, both former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and former New York governor Mario Cuomo have authored op-eds in the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, respectively, arguing that the political circus in Albany compels a constitutional convention. Such efforts are already well underway in California, alongside burgeoning drives in Alabama, Arizona, and Michigan. Altogether, 25 percent of the U.S. population lives in these five states. These growing grassroots movements are a sign of the times.

 

In New York, a five-week summer standoff in the state senate, characterized by party switches and backroom power-broker deals, ended up costing the state upwards of $125 million amid a legislative stalemate. In California, chronic budget shortfalls have become national news. With the third emergency budget deal in ten months temporarily closing a $26 billion budget gap, the Golden State suffers from an 11.6 percent unemployment rate, which reaches 15 percent in agricultural areas like Fresno. The state is caught in a vicious cycle of declining tax revenues from high tax rates, making each budget deal both painful and temporary.

 

Momentum for a constitutional convention in the Golden State got underway in August 2008, when business leaders from the Bay Area Council took a trip to Sacramento and found the state in the throes of a now-familiar budget crisis. They determined that only a state constitutional convention could cure its chronic structural problems. "At times of dysfunction such as this there tends to be a 'throw the bums out' impulse," says John Grubb of Repair California, the civic group backed by the Bay Area Council that is pushing for the constitutional convention. "But we believe that if you throw these bums out, the next set of bums will have the same problems. That's because the system is broken." By using California's ballot-initiative process, Repair California is bypassing the state legislature and putting the question of a constitutional convention to voters in November 2010.

 

California's last constitutional convention took place in 1879, but the governing document has been amended 512 times since then through a combination of legislative action and ballot initiatives, which have contributed to the cost and dysfunction of state government. The document ballooned to over 75,000 words at one point, and it now authorizes 389 boards, commissions, and agencies with overlapping jurisdictions. This guarantees gridlock as well as the waste of taxpayer dollars.

 

Repair California's proposed remedies include governance reform to strengthen the executive branch, budget reforms to rein in spending, and revenue distribution between state and local governments to prevent unfunded mandates. Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, along with every major candidate to succeed him, supports a constitutional convention—with the notable exception of state insurance examiner Steve Poizner, a Republican who so far remains noncommittal on the issue.

 

New Yorkers are no strangers to the expense of multi-jurisdictional bodies or a stalemated state legislature, either. Policy reforms suggested in New York so far include increasing the governor's power in budget negotiations; mandating spending caps and a legislative super-majority for tax increases; instituting term limits; and enacting non-partisan redistricting. Other changes might include addressing the state's chronic inability to renegotiate pension obligations in the event of insolvency.

 

But in the Empire State, the process of organizing a constitutional convention is far more circuitous than in California, because New York doesn't have a direct ballot-initiative process. Before voters can even weigh in on the idea, the state legislature must first vote on whether to put the question of a constitutional convention to voters. The whole process would likely take until 2012 to be implemented, at earliest—and that's assuming state legislative leaders don't succeed in stonewalling until a review is required by state law in 2017.

 

Bipartisan consensus is building in favor of a convention, however. So far supporters include not only Giuliani and Cuomo, but also former congressman Rick Lazio and former governor George Pataki. Governor Paterson has released a statement in support of a constitutional convention, while Democratic Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, Assembly Minority Leader Brian Kolb, and State Senator Marty Golden have all submitted legislation calling for a convention. But State Senate Majority Conference Leader John Sampson and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver have yet to declare their support, an ominous sign. Unless they become convinced that it's in their political self-interest, they can be expected to block these reform efforts and defend the status quo.

 

Governor Paterson could take a decisive step by submitting constitutional-convention legislation when he calls the state legislature back into session in September to close a new multi-billion-dollar budget gap. There would be no better time to highlight the need for fundamental reform. Public frustration with Albany is hitting a new high, and elected officials should not feel insulated by their 98 percent re-election rate. The growing movement in favor of constitutional conventions across the country in a time of fiscal crisis contains a warning: if legislators won't lead responsibly, citizens might start leading themselves.

 

John P. Avlon is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He served as chief speechwriter for New York mayor Rudy Giuliani and is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics.

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The monkey one was great!

 

As for the other one... I noticed saying "Lipstick on a pig" is back to being politically correct. I can't wait to see the next cliche that Sarah claims temporary ownership of.

 

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Oh yeah Flaps, I sure have. And this is what Jose Solorio has to say about it. Which is pretty much nothing of f'ng import nor substance.

 

This state is committing suicide and no one will stop it. I find it comical now and very amusing as it friggen bleeds to death........

 

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Editorial: War between the states

Nevada fired the first shot, targeting California's lousy business climate.

A Register editorial

 

 

A good, old-fashioned advertising war has erupted between California and Nevada. At issue is which venue is more business-friendly.

 

Nevada says it's more business friendly because it has no corporate income tax, no personal income tax and its worker compensation fees are much lower.

 

California says it's more business friendly because, well, because California has a lot of consumers and nice weather.

 

Nevada's campaign is the latest in a series run by bordering states to lure dissatisfied California businesses to greener pastures. Paid for by the Nevada Development Authority, the TV, radio and print ads ridicule California. One ad asks: "California will be more pro-business …when?" and shows a picture of a pig with wings.

 

That apparently was the last straw for Assemblyman Jose Solorio, D-Anaheim, who told us the Nevada ads were "over the top and offensive." In retaliation, he launched a website and ad campaign paid for by his reelection campaign to defend the Golden State's honor, such as it is.

 

"What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas," one pro-California ad says, capitalizing on another widely seen Las Vegas promotion, "but what happens in California makes the world go round."

 

It strikes us that Nevadans stress dollars and sense. The California retort resorts to feelings. Rather than point out that Nevada's unemployment is even higher and its housing markets even more devastated than California's, Mr. Solorio's ad falls back on "devoted Californians ... voic(ing) their state pride. . ."

 

Mr. Solorio is offended by Nevadans' negative approach. Should we be offended that he holds himself up to be "one of the Legislature's pro-jobs, pro-business Democrats?"

 

Assemblyman Solorio voted in January along with every legislative Democrat, including whatever other "pro-job, pro-business" members of their party there may be, to impose California's highest-ever tax increase, $12.5 billion in income, sales and car taxes. Four months later, Mr. Solorio told us he voted for ballot measures to impose a $16 billion extension of the same taxes, but was out-voted by Californians.

 

Rather than promote feel-good advertisements dodging the issue, Mr. Solorio ought to vote to undo the damage already inflicted on California's battered businesses. But Democrats in Sacramento already are clamoring for more new taxes.

 

Worse yet, the state's tax reform commission is about to propose three major tax increases for legislators to consider. One would increase businesses' taxes by removing their Proposition 13 property tax limits. Another would add a new "carbon tax." A third would impose a "net business receipts tax," like Europe's value-added tax. Mr. Solorio and his "pro-job, pro-business" friends soon will have an opportunity for substantive action, as opposed to feel-good sloganeering.

 

Yeah, this story was all over the local news here a few weeks back. It looks like everyone is scrambling to feed on the carcass that is the CA business environment. The fact of the matter is that NV is 10x more business friendly than CA; our tax structure is better, our cost of living is lower, house prices are lower (even before the housing bubble burst, we were lower), etc. A LOT of business is leaving CA because of the fucked up climate there.

 

 

 

Solorio is like the little cabin boy making up beds on the Titantic. He has absolutely no f'ng grasp on reality...........

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The fact of the matter is that NV is 10x more business friendly than CA; our tax structure is better, our cost of living is lower, house prices are lower (even before the housing bubble burst, we were lower), etc.

 

Yeah, that's why Nevada is such a hotbed of business innovation, having created the entertainment and music industries, Silicon Valley, the microelectronics revolution, the Internet, the aerospace industry, etc.

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The fact of the matter is that NV is 10x more business friendly than CA; our tax structure is better, our cost of living is lower, house prices are lower (even before the housing bubble burst, we were lower), etc.

 

Yeah, that's why Nevada is such a hotbed of business innovation, having created the entertainment and music industries, Silicon Valley, the microelectronics revolution, the Internet, the aerospace industry, etc.

 

 

You're talking in the past tense there Son...like 8, 10, 13 years ago. Time to see the now, how and why this place is fuking useless...........

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The fact of the matter is that NV is 10x more business friendly than CA; our tax structure is better, our cost of living is lower, house prices are lower (even before the housing bubble burst, we were lower), etc.

 

Yeah, that's why Nevada is such a hotbed of business innovation, having created the entertainment and music industries, Silicon Valley, the microelectronics revolution, the Internet, the aerospace industry, etc.

 

 

You're talking in the past tense there Son...like 8, 10, 13 years ago. Time to see the now, how and why this place is fuking useless...........

 

So what's the word on business innovation in Nevada? Seems that our primary capital is human, and that no matter how badly the government fucks it up, California is always going to have the advantage of being a place people actually want to live.

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P/E, we just don't do shit here any more except grow rappers, bad actors, sell used cars and support the taco trucks. The entertainment biz has been in the shitter for several years now, on PCH in Hermosa Beach there's 41 empty stores, the auto mfg. companies have moved their headquarters, we really have no more aerospace going on (except maybe TRW) Raytheon has an office in El Segundo, you rarely see a train go thru here anymore and about the only businesses making money are restaraunts and bars----but heaven f'ng to Betsy if you wanna start a new one and apply for a liquor license....you can count on at least 10 months and 37 city council meetings.

 

Oh yeah, construction? (my specialty)------------> dead f'ng donkey dix. Taint nutting goin' on...........

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Hey, what's not to love about a good shitfight.

 

 

 

 

 

, although, so far, they BOTH are coming across like whimpering little girls.

 

 

 

 

They oughta send their ad execs to Sailing Anarchy.

 

 

:D WE could show those wanna-bees how to do a World Class shitfight,

 

,could we not ??

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P/E, we just don't do shit here any more except grow rappers, bad actors, sell used cars and support the taco trucks. The entertainment biz has been in the shitter for several years now, on PCH in Hermosa Beach there's 41 empty stores, the auto mfg. companies have moved their headquarters, we really have no more aerospace going on (except maybe TRW) Raytheon has an office in El Segundo, you rarely see a train go thru here anymore and about the only businesses making money are restaraunts and bars----but heaven f'ng to Betsy if you wanna start a new one and apply for a liquor license....you can count on at least 10 months and 37 city council meetings.

 

Oh yeah, construction? (my specialty)------------> dead f'ng donkey dix. Taint nutting goin' on...........

 

I'm with Booth. Things are looking pretty grim.

 

Although I did see one shining beacon of hope in my little two horse town where some light industry was drawn into the city limits with permit, evironmental, and tax negotiations making it a little easier for them to set up shop. It seems the local government here is starting to get it.

 

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good commentary on the subject by Will and the replacement for Arnold who proved to be very disappointing in his govenator roll given his fiscal conservative campagne speil but Kennedyesque wimpy "shambolic" results in governance .

 

Perhaps a good leader along with constitutional convention hopefully might bring about real change instead of the hopeychangey variety that leads to more economic disaster .

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...id=opinionsbox1

 

After the Governator, the Calculator

 

SAN DIEGO -- The most ominous domestic event of the 1970s was the collapse of self-government in New York City, which before being put into receivership by the state was liberalism's laboratory. Since then, California has been the slate on which liberalism boldly writes its recipe for decline -- high taxes, heavy regulation, subservience to public employees unions and environmentalism that is simultaneously apocalyptic and chiliastic.

 

Because California's calamitous present -- creative accounting as a rickety bridge to the next budget crisis, coming soon -- might prefigure the nation's future, next year's gubernatorial election is portentous. An especially intriguing candidate in a colorful field is Tom Campbell. Colorful he is not. "Talk softly and carry a small calculator" could be his motto. What glitter, however, are his résumé and agenda.

 

If nominated, Campbell will face either the once-exotic but still canny Jerry Brown, who will be 72 and perhaps familiar to a fault, or Gavin Newsom, 41, San Francisco's dashing and evidently delusional mayor, whose campaign suggests that the bankrupt state's biggest problem is its denial of same-sex marriage. If Campbell is nominated, he can win, but if Californians were sufficiently rational to nominate him, their state would not be shambolic.

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