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dont you go civil forfeiture in the USA?

still looks like all problems are solved by doing this.. Laser find and replace with Torch

you need to check on what kind of organization it is and under whose jurisdiction

so what does Kirby still have control over?

the trademark 'Laser' seems to be the issue and the leverage not the boat. So the ILCA become ITorchCA , Kirby issues the build doc to lots of builders and the problem seems solved.

funny you mentioned that, it was all about taking the boat away from LP's control

if the class changes the name and the boat name its all over I thought? Mumm 30 - Far 30, it happens

so have the ICLA shot themselves in the foot siding with Rastegar and nobody can get laser parts anywhere in the world except where the Ozzies are allowed to sell them? ( I guess that result was the court case in reality)

so now you have lots of volunteers worldwide working for free to make his business a success.

I think a successful class should be driven/funded by the manufacturer, its the only concept that survives in the long run. If they want to give up sell the rights and molds to the class.

so we will end up with lots of builders selling a class legal boat to enter a Laser regatta its just wont be called a laser like lots of other classes out there? The EU will put 100% tariffs on them if they are built in the UK, lol

so it all stopped but has the ownership, trademark builders manual stuff all been solved? Has the Laser been thrown into public ownership as there are no valid rights on anything?

This argument could go on like the one where t models fords can stay in the indy 500. Was an issue in 1928 but then..... like sands through the hour glass...

pick up some of those German built Laser knocks off with the altered transom. ( so different but all parts fit) They retail for 50% of a Laser in the EU Seen many in rental schools.

they made a lot of T model fords but they eventually stopped didnt they of course if the guardians of sailing ran the automotive world we would be still driving t model Fords for sure.

I guess the new Kirby boat will be all carbon as people have to run down the road with the Olympic Torch I notice

what happens if they announce the Laser is gone from the olympics.. Whats the trademark worth then?

just been to Southampton and La Rochelle boat shows who's Laser, gone from the world??

crikey even the j24 class upgraded their sails

sound like repeating B14 history, a Byte comes in 2 versions surely not a carbon top with a dacron sail?