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  1. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

    This one? https://www.facebook.com/653448044/posts/10157939898888045/  That angle brings out your concerns really well,  I think...? That boat was for sale with an asking price of 8000 Euro or so last year. The ad shows up if googled,  though withdrawn.  Cheers,                W.
  2. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

     I think I get your point and I would simply accept it at face value but for:  ...this, which is simply incorrect. I've personally had the boat moving at well over hull speed going down biggish waves in a southerly in the Clyde channel, despite a conservative sailplan;  and cms, of this parish...
  3. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

       I'm still not following your objection to the actual sailing characteristics that result. I understand that the waterline is artificially shortened when the boat is upright, which wouldn't be necessary without the rule... it might lead to wave-slap under the stern at anchor but that doesn't...
  4. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

    The underwater shapes make a lot more sense when the boat has a few degrees of heel on: which is pretty much all the time under sail. Did the owners of the one you saw report any issues? In practice, I haven't come across any actual difficulties.  Anyway, we are getting into specifics that are...
  5. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

    You don't like the underwater appearance? I'll take that as pretty mild criticism :-)  By "attributes", i was thinking undesirable sailing characteristics: complicated rigs, undersized rudders with narrow sterns, oversized genoas with tiny mains.  Can you expand on your concerns with the stern...
  6. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

    That's the one- Woofer and Eliminator were both in Ireland fairly recently, may still be. Kermit was there for a while, too, before coming back to Scotland.  Big for a half-tonner, most of them (including mine) were built too heavy to be competitive but roomy inside, nice wide decks. Could do...
  7. WGWarburton

    Desirable and Undesirable Characteristics of Offshore Yachts

    Seconded. I have one of his designs, a late 70s designed half tonner. I don't recognise the peanut gallery's "IOR boats suck" characteristics in it.  (Of course, the really awful IOR boats will mostly have been scrapped by now. The ones still sailing are generally good boats).  Julian...
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