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Yeah, but a major component of the purpose for these boats is record-breaking. F-1 cars are not built for record breaking. There are plenty of sailboat classes that are not intended to involve the absolute fastest boats under sail... boats that can break records. But that is what, to many of...

Amazing.  I keep thinking back to The Race with Phillips, Cheyenne/PS, and the Multi-plast boats... just how much more efficient these boats are, now.  Watching them sail it, it looks like they have much better vision that you would think just by looking at the boat.

Now that's the attitude!  But seriously, I do not believe it is his wording, but rather his point.  He seems to be claiming (regardless how the words being clunky) that foilers can't go a week at pace similar to IDEC, and that they really don't have many areas where they have an advantage. ...

Just saying that photo makes it look like it is digging in badly, but in actuality the boat just cuts through that without significant slowing.  Maybe they will end up going with longer foils, but I'm guessing that comes with its own hazards... to start with having longer foils dictates more...

Huh?  What does that have to do with people getting pissy about sharp comments?  Did anyone suggest no one talk about tech of the boats?  Nope.  Symbio came in making claims that are not founded as if he had some data to back it up, did so in the face of all the best designers moving in the...

On the video where that capture comes from, that "nose dive" is no where near as bad as it looks in the still image.

Might we wait to see the cause of the damage before jumping to conclusions?  If they hit something large, it (foiling) is probably irrelevant.  If it is fatigue from foiling, it is then a valid point that has to be handled, just like all technology.  Just like they learned about the cavitation...

When did Sailing Anarchy become a "nice" place?

Cue the Symbio idiot to claim that the damage is because the boat is a foiler.... making such claim without knowing a damned thing whether the rudder component that broke has anything to do with foiling, and ignoring that the boat was not doing anything "foiling" that a waterborne boat wouldn't...

Great new video.... clearly they are not going as fast as they possibly can, but rather they discuss the challenge of finding the right speed to go. By the way, amazing how much more comfortable these boats are now in the Southern Ocean than just a few years ago.  Basically, even in the...

" Schematically, these pure foiling Ultims, are just a tad quicker from around 70° to 130° of the wind, with a swell under about 2 meters. Beside that, these boat are significantly slower. ..." Dude, you are trying way too hard to sound like you know what you are talking about, and doing...

Gitana has been extending its lead for the past few scheds, so doing very well at this point.  It will be very interesting to see how this Indian Ocean set of systems matures.

Yeah, no.  If you have been following this for any period of time, you will know that all boats have always had failed attempts due to breakage, collisions, etc.  Every generation gets quicker, although yes there are more things that can break.  But the thing is you have to beat the previous...

Yep, have to figure their jibe will be VERY soon with a 32knt speed but only 6.5vmg, and the wind tailing off very soon.

The other factor relative to how fast they want to push it on a RTW race, with these new boats, is cavitation damage on the foils.  Gitana is going to be particularly sensitive to this given they had to give up one race, already, due to cavitation damage.  No sense in going those few extra...

Gitana is hammering the Southern Atlantic... I would think they will easily shatter the Start to Good Hope record and the Equator to Good Hope record.

How fast can they be going and be able to launch and retrieve the drone?  Can they be going at full-tilt 40+ knt speeds in the Southern Ocean and pull that feat off?  I wanna see some drone footage of them going full-tilt.

Absolutely.  My point was just that it is pretty tough to make a claim that Gitana HAD to be ahead of IDEC by X amount in the first 1/3rd of the course in order to have a chance of beating Idec's JVT time.  Who knows, maybe Gitana will absolutely rip across the Pacific, hit the coast of Brazil...

Not really true.  They don't HAVE to be way ahead of IDEC.  You would be right if they did not have a faster boat.  Of course Idec had a great bunch of days ahead of where the boat is, now, but to think Gitana can't do better, with a MUCH newer and faster boat, is simply wrong.  It certainly...

Working for me, now, too.