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You are right, poison arrow in the Philippines. I wonder if that hurts. Actually I had never heard of el Carno until just a few years ago. magellan must have had a very effective PR person.

Couple of thoughts come to mind. I have always wondered why Magellan is credited with the first circumnavigation since he only went from Spain to Patagonia. Shouldn't the credit go to his #2 and the small number of his crew who survived the journey. Second thought, and to mind this is the...

Jack, read what I posted before. I did not say that a race or clipper ship route would not be a circumnavigation, rather that the routes either might follow would not define a circumnavigation. I doubt that there would/could be any complete agreement on what a circumnavigation is. the key...

It is a mistake to use the term 'clipper ship' to refer to any square rigger used for trade. Real clippers were slim greyhounds designed for speed, to carry new crop tea from China to Britain in the minimum time possible. The tea from the first clipper sold for a very high price. The last square...