With over half the worlds Lasers being in Europe, never mind the America’s, there is no reason to believe LPE regatta turnouts would be smaller. They also sell into (with rights) all continents except Oceania, so a much better global spread than PSA/PSJ. The LPE class would meet all the...
I understand that argument but anyone can start a class association for a boat that looks like a Laser, but isn’t actually one. In fact, anyone can start a CA for boats that actually are proper Lasers(TM). The only advantage ILCA have is an existing agreement with with WS to be *the* recognised...
I’m not too sure. You could argue that affirmative consent was given for the purpose of Laser(TM) sailing. If ILCA no longer offer Laser(TM) sailing, they don’t need to keep that info.
Keeping info “just in case” is not a legitimate reason, so maintaining details of former members...
I see that, but does the inspecting class association have to be ILCA, or can it be ILCO? It looks like World Sailing’s agreement is with ILCA, so to answer my own question yes, it does have to be them.
Obviously international classes are more professionally run than local classes, and Olympic...
Having looked up these T&Cs, and WS refs for becoming an international class, I think you are right. It would appear that a class is administered by its CA not by the IP owner.
In those examples it was just a simple change of name. However, in this case if ILCA changed name to drop the "Laser" part, LP (or a third party) would surely create an "ILCO" to represent bona fide Laser™ sailors (not just LP Lasers™ but all legitimate Lasers™. I submit that it is the Laser™...
If ILCA changes the name of the class and the boat, that is a new class that does not presently have international or Olympic status. It can’t hold World championships and it ought not to have the same relationship with World Sailing that it currently does.
Other than some moral argument, it...
My money is on LP if there are rival offerings. The value is in the Laser brand not the boat design.
Under GDPR, could ILCA keep their European contact list? I think the contacts they have were made pursuant to Laser racing, and any European Laser racing would be under LP.
Given that most Laser sailors do not give one fig if their boat has a Laser logo on it and anyone can build a boat that is a Kirby sailboat, is this not an opportunity to create a new class association that envelopes the Laser, but also allows any other generic Kirby boat or laser with replica...
You know, it's more than a little annoying that a small group of you have posted so much noise that trying to find the signal is impossible. Have a week off and try and get laid.
So, if notice of termination was not given, LP owe a heap of back pay and if it was given, LP are not licensed to make Kirby boats anymore and should be fined for the boats they have made and sold?
As tarnished as it is, I suspect the brand is more valuable than the product.
Wild speculation - could this be the reason the new ISAF CEO quit after less than 6 months in post? Maybe he saw how complicit ISAF were in the plaque debacle.
So Kirby has no say in changing the spec of the boat he claims to own the rights to?
And how and why would you patent a sail for a Laser? There'll still be replica versions even if they don't include whatever the patented feature is.
So ISAF ultimately get to dictate what a Laser is (in terms of design and construction)? I can't think of many industries where the designer/builder/supplier/design rights holder/whatever hands over control of their product like that to a third party.
The problem is the whole thing is so...