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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Gantt, you've done more than anyone else to shut down this topic - you've drowned it under mountains of misguided, irrelevant, made up tripe, so there is pretty much nobody left willing to actually engage in a real discussion. As soon as anyone tries to engage you race in and bury them under the...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I think Gantt just makes stuff up.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    About ten years ago, Laser sails in Australia were $1100, plus numbers. Word spread that you could buy a sail from the US for $530 (with numbers attached) plus shipping. Exchange rate was about the same as now. I don't think PSA sold many sails that year. They eventually dropped the price and...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Email below received from PSA this morning...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Actually composite rather than carbon. Not intended as a performance improvement but a way of avoiding the existing problems with masts bending and breaking. Bend characteristics, weight etc are identical to the aluminium, just better longevity. We hope.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Not sure, I haven't heard. I hope it's coming at the same time, but no word yet.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Don't worry, I share your scepticism. All I know is that people in a position to know about these things say it's done.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Who said it's acceptable? It's crap. Always has been, no matter who's in charge. Problem is that we don't elect the World Council - not directly. Each District elects a District committee. Then the District committee chairs elect a regional chair who becomes the World Council rep. The World...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Gantt, let's just say I have a well placed source and leave it at that. Not trying to mysterious, just that I'm probably breaching a trust by sharing the information. But the culture of secrecy embedded at the ILCA really pisses me off, so whatever. I imagine announcements aren't far away...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    The sail agreement is in place with all parties. November 1 is the date it becomes legal. Always a chance something will go wrong, it's the Laser class after all, but the deal is done. ILCA WC are all getting together for a meeting in North America towards the end of the month - interesting...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    What's going on is that the new sail will be in the market and class legal within a couple of months at the most. Except for the ISAF World Cup (and no doubt the Olympics)which will still require the old sail. Retail price will be about 25% more than the current standard sail.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I assume you've read the ILCA Constitution and know these answers better than I do. I can't believe that you would have put this much time into discussing the Laser Class without having read the constitution. But I'll play along with your game anyway. I don't understand it, but I'll play it...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Ok then, Gantt, I'll express myself a little differently. What concern is it of yours what process an organisation follows to vote on a rule change, when you are not a member of that organisation? If you are not a member then the ILCA is not answerable to you. Because I am a member (and...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Gantt, my fellow class members and I voted on the issue, and overwhelmingly voted to change the class rule. I really have a significant problem with you throwing your opinion around about this, when you could not even be bothered to join the class. Your opinion is worth nothing, particularly...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    IPLore, you're nowhere near as much fun now that you insist on spelling Gantt correctly. You disappoint me.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Again with the implication that someone must be either for BK or for LP. I really, honestly do not give a damn which of them is right or wrong, or which one ends up paying how much to whom. I know I'm far from alone, but reading this thread makes it seem like I am. I do care about the class and...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Yes, it does come across as authored from one particular point of view. Which is indeed interesting, because that side of the debate has said nothing publicly during the entire saga. It gives us a small insight into their version of events.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    It's inflated, yes, but disingenuous? what would have been GS' motivation to name a price if they had not interest in selling?
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    From the Wikipedia entry: As a means of resolution, in July of 2010, Global Sailing offered to sell LaserPerformance the Laser Rights and their manufacturing company Performance Sailcraft Australia for $15,000,000 US, which LaserPerformance alleged was more than it was worth. In August of 2010...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Sorry Gantt, but that's hilarious. You more than anyone have been overstating the effects of this case, at great length and for a long time. Good to see you've finally caught on!


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