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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    how about the quirky National Prescriptions.... eg US Coast Guard approved vests... Not Euro vests.... Per US Sailing perscriptions... or my all time favorite... the throwable for boats 18 feet and up! per US coast guard regulations.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Answer the question... what data do YOU evaluate to assess the relative health of any class.... local to international. On this specific point of NAs...   I think you look at the number of people who spend time and real money to support the class.... that is why I like the NA or Worlds...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I like data... actual measurements... It beats anecdotes and blow hard marketing bullshit..   Just one measure of class health.... And its hard data.....and data that is public.      Show me data on weekend regatta participation in a class...   The only data I can point to is the Hobie Class...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    OK....but most of the time, class health is compared by looking at NA participation...  (see the reports by Roger Jolley).   My surprise was how tepid the Laser class support for championships is....  In the context of upset at the international level including olympics...  .... the rank and...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Thanks VWAP    Look at the options for single handed racers in the US.... Haven't done the homework... but from the links above it seems that with respect to participation Lasers are on par with A cats and probably Finns   Followed by  a second tier of Hobie 14s, and 17s and Sunfish and I guess...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Gouv.... this is one model.... and by no means a sure fire winner. In fact, many sports,... eg US Soccer tried this approach and decided it did not work. Now, they cull talent from kid programs and route the players to select teams... College Soccer is not essential.. The US has lots of...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Ok.. Gouv.... NO argument on enthusiasm being essential... I would clarify that you need enthusiasm top to bottom in the fleet and in leadership... As to Young leaders... well.... I have a dim view of that one.. as a counter example... I hold up the V15 class... This class was DESIGNED for...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    The fundamental question is... Should the Laser Class be about Growing the participation of Laser sailing (at all levels)... OR should the Laser Class be about Competition (at all levels)? It seems to me that class leaders and the class members (at all levels) have decided that their own...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Money and turnout..... I smell a rat... Just had this debate with several laser fleet sailors at Corsica River on the chesapeake... Few pre registered... the on site registration penalty was cheap... only 5 bucks... hell the regatta was cheap... When asked... would a $20 motivate you to...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    My experience has been that rank and file class members don't think much about these kind of issues. My class saw ISAF demand significant changes... the rank and file voted against the new rules (despite the leadership and the elite sailors pleading) to protect their investments.... and then...
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