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maybe you should spend some time learning until you are more sure

You can buy anything you want from anyone. If you want a class legal boat, you'll follow the rules. If you don't like it, vote for a change. Pretty simple.

Point them out using the specific language of  the agreements and legal reasoning.  It's hard to have a real argument otherwise.

There's data available for every euro and world championship too; NA is a stupid measure because NA participation is highly irrelevant to numbers when you look at international sailing as a whole.  The number of people who will spend the money to be in a class is probably the most useful measure...

Tcatman I think you may be the only person on the planet who thinks worldwide class health is accurately depicted by roger jolley reports.  

Driving a porsche isn't governed by a government-granted monopoly, but you can bet your große titten that Porsche has to bow down to the FIA on certain things.

Rastey doesn't have any such doubts!

now i need a new fucking coffee

There was already a US builder who said in one of these threads that he'd build him, and he's already got the capacity.  I think people are underestimating how hard it is to find a boat to build that people already want to buy

Laser sailing has been in decline for a decade or more. Ask the builders.

if that dude's name is pronounced "Ricky Vicious", I am very jealous.

Baloney my ass. I've been in markets from Marrakesh to Jalan Surabaya and aggression and pushiness well past western boundaries are the norm. Maybe not ethnicity, but a shared cultural business morality that's far different from what most of us are used to. It's not like the cultural gap is...

To be fair, most Muslim cultures (including non-arab ones like Morocco and Iran) have completely different business practices than most Western ones, including the pillars of their respective business ethics. Anyone who's ever roamed through a souk on a serious buying mission knows it's a much...

Ima call Kirby when i get back on the 4th; maybe he'll chat and maybe not. either way, he just doesn't seem to have a lot of leverage except with respect to the vote, and how the vote was achieved.

interestingly enough, the libel argument seems silly until you see that (a) the ILCA made at least one verifiable false statement of fact (when introducing the builder-change vote) and ( B) it straight-up damaged Kirby in quantifiable ways - that's pretty much the definition of libel, and is...

As a non-laser sailor, i have no fucking clue! But based on what I know, it's pretty much impossible to recommend LP as a good company with a good reputation. Over the past few years, we have had more complaints about LP than any other boatbuilder - and not just a few more, we're talking about...

So, if there has never been a patent (and you used to be able to get design patents for boat designs btw), then 1) anyone can make a laser 2) anyone with permission to use the mark "laser" can call it a laser Binding agreements to build something can be circumvented by moving the entities...

Got it, thanks.

It's clear you can't comprehend it, but that's because you don't want to understand the basic legal concepts that rub you the wrong way. And you certainly don't know what I had and didn't have in my possession when I wrote the article. Let me make this easy for the slow kids. If Kirby had a...

That's not really the question, is it?