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no standing? Ha ha ha That's awesome! I guess if you sell the whole mess to someone else you can't sue like you still own it even if you sorta lease it back? ha ha ha... Thank you to the Class Assoc, Well done! Despite all the crap on the web you did the right thing w/class no pun intended...

​Maybe sock puppets are the answer. If Wes, Tillerman, Gouv could post their answers to Gannt and their videos under a sock puppet and their real comments under their regular id then those that don't want to read all that "stuff" could put the sock puppets on ignore and still see stuff that's...

Gouv from my post above and this is Kirby speaking "They have allowed LPE to go ahead and produce boats even though they don’t have a proper contract at this time," ​bold is mine

This article is interesting from 16 Sep 2011 www.sail-world.com/81938‘ Now it would appear that Laser Performance Europe doesn’t want to recognize the fact that this transfer has taken place. It is really weird because they paid the royalties to Global Sailing for two years as they were...

Why did LP Europe get terminated by GS for supposed non payment of royalties but LP US kept paying royalties?

"Not everything that is said needs to analysed in a legal sense." Wow! that's a keeper

Clearly his meds are still missing

Can someone find Gantt's meds?

Is Spartacus Chinese?

Wait, if Wes is Tillerman and Tillerman is Wes ... who is Spartacus?

​As a dues paying class member I am quite happy with the class staying out of what is a legal matter between Kirby/PSA and Laser Performance. As to the legal system being broke, it might be but this case isn't evidence of it. There is no need to rush this through and I don't see either of the...

you cantt believe everything you hear!

Nope. Maybe the other way around?

The ILCA is wrong when they say "is not a Laser", They have no authority to say that. Doesn't matter how many times they say it. What they can say is "is not a class legal Laser" and that is their job, to set the rules for class legal Lasers but they have no authority over the trade mark owner...

isn't denial the first phase?

see the attachment that SM123 posted above http://www.archive.o...99988.174.2.pdf the end of page 9 and into page 10 (I had the page number wrong above). The fact that they stopped makes a big difference. Since it is the same judge that will rule on the ILCA motion I don't see how the outcome...

Simon, it would appear the judge sees it differently. He addressed the plaques (in the second attachment on page 11) and the "daylight in the timeline between the moment when ISAF knew...and the moment when the Kirby name was deleted from the plaque" was not sufficient blah blah... They were...

Gouv that sounded a little snobbish As to resolution there appears to be a Gnat in the ointment. See these updates from above Posted 18 December 2014 - 11:00 AM Gouvernail, on 17 Dec 2014 - 23:18, said: IPLore, on 18 Dec 2014 - 08:04, said:

I seem to remember seeing somewhere that the sale of BKI was not reversed but that kirby had leased the rights somehow. You think he gave back the money?

Gouv is right there is no need for the contracts after the class rule was changed. Go back to Kirby's statements on Sailworld. There are no patents etc just the renewable contracts. He was quite clear. You can also note the time and energy that Gannt ... Can't... Won't (whatever) and kirby put...