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Great find. Wonder if Fulham Council is fully apprised of the litigious penchant of the chosen buyer!

Thanks for the update. Slow progress but progress nonetheless.

While I appreciate IPLore's detached, analytical, legal take on this clusterfuck, he appears incapable of acknowledging that ILCA fudged the vote. No, I haven't been hanging on every word of this interminable debate but thus far I'm convinced that thus far, Simon and Gantt offer the most...

Shoot the messenger? Hell, we should machine-gun the messenger, preferably with large caliber high-velocity anti-tank ammunition. The sole thing Bruce Gantt is guilty of is obsession with all this sturm und drang. Nationality has nothing to do with it. He's concerned about the greater good...

And that's why I persist in wading through arcane and off-the-wall argument. Gems like this little link. Thanks for flagging it Gantt but jeepers, it deserved more prominence! It's required reading for anyone who chooses to weigh in on this clusterfuck The news release from Kirby includes...

Good work Bruce. My own examination of the situation has been relatively superficial and far more recent. Still your posts have confirmed my understanding of how we got here. For me the good news in this is that ILCA's situation is not dire. They still have an opportunity to recant and join...

ILCA should be taking the long view regarding the future of the class. That includes carefully assessing the deteriorating business relationship over the last several years between the principal builder and the designer. Did ILCA do that? Based on their own communications to members it's...

Thanks. You beat me to the post. Your Marine Business link http://www.marinebusiness-world.com/Laser-Lawsuit---Challenge-to-Laser-trademark-ownership/109236 provides a much better overview.

Thanks. Another crippling broadside from the flagship in Rowayton! "As a result of its knowing submission of a third-party use of its trademark as purported use in support of registration, Registration (sic - typo, should be 'Registrant') committed fraud in the prosecution of U.S. Trademark...

Ah, I see! Wess, I've given it my best shot. Let's agree to disagree. I intend to follow developments here, and respond where appropriate. But I won't be responding to any further rants like this from you.

You still don't get it, do you. Assuming you've only ever bought one Laser, say for argument's sake in 1975, the only money Kirby lifted from your pocket was a tiny percentage of the purchase price of $899. No one seems to agree on the his exact percentage but at 2.5 per cent that was $26.95 ...

He owns his trademark. The case appears to revolve around misuse, misappropriation, whatever of Bruce Kirby's trademark. Wess, set aside all your characterisations of Kirby as money-grubbing, greedy, hand-in-your-pocket etc, and go back with an open mind and read the amended complaint. Here's...

Wess, you nailed your colours to the mast exactly two months ago when you started a thread entitled: "Laser: BK and PSA you greedy bunch of . . . " Here are a couple of samples from the twisted logic of that first post. You've been dishing out hate mail, half-truths, fabrications, and...

You are off the charts, mate! You've basically been wrong and or wildly insulting in all your posts about this, but this one caps them all!

Perhaps you're a shade too pessimistic. I've just worked my way through Kirby's latest filing. This is "must" reading for anyone who ventures to offer an opinion on this clusterfuck. On the face of it, Kirby appears to have a strong case as in, "fuck you, strong letter follows!" But still, we...

Agreed. Of course it all still hangs on whether Kirby's original building agreement still applies 40 years on. He and his law team apparently think sol This is the first time I've read the full ILCA rationale for rule change. Disingenuous at best. Duplicitous might better characterise their...

This item from a couple of days ago appears to have been bypassed in the conversation. It's a republication of a statement from Kirby's Torch website, to be found here: http://www.kirbytorch.com/news/letterfrombrucekirby IT’S THE BOAT THAT MATTERS, NOT THE NAME In an attempt to rescue...

Clean. To be crystal clear, I've never believed or suggested Kirby ever had a patent. And of course your search for a patent not only came up empty but came up with nothing but a sloop-rigged dinghy (main and jib). Nevertheless thank you for your patient efforts to instruct me and others on...

Ho, ho, ho! And I was beginning to think you were being objective in your comments. To understand the lawyer-speak offered by our lawyer leader you need to include a broader quote, to whit: Any ‘design patent’ he may have had on the actual boat design has long since expired, while design...

Thanks. Appreciated. You still owe me a better answer re novation. You're the one who raised it, hinting it could be killer for Kirby's case. I answered by saying Kirby's legal guys had to be aware of the possibility. I'll readily admit to being sympathetic to Kirby's cause. But I've also...