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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    More than chump change but less than a shed load.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    There are plenty of references around to supply problems. Also see the proposed changes some would like World Sailing to make regarding qualification as an Olympic class, which are clearly aimed at the ongoing Laser fiasco. Someone is going to emerge from these lawsuits in full control of the...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    In order to save the class, it was necessary to destroy it. Apparently. Or for an alternative metaphor:
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Is 70 years of the still-thriving Merlin Rocket class "long run" enough for you, entirely member-driven and funded?
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    ^ I helped run a class association for a few years. I was an owner/volunteer. One member, who found the time to sail every event and did quite well, was especially vocal about what "somebody" ought to organise. Care to join the committee? Sorry no, he said, I am much too busy sailing. Unless us...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    You should sue.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    "We were always told one of the reasons genuine parts were so expensive was because of roylaties that needed to be paid" Kirby only ever got royalties on new boats. Not sails or other parts. That's detailed on some of the documents that made it into the public domain.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    "Settled" would mean the parties had come to an agreement whereas as far as I can see, Kirby has plain lost. It is fascinating that after 4000+ posts, nobody now wants to discuss the actual outcome.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    As far as I can make out, Kirby has lost. https://ecf.ctd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2013cv0297-283
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    That's pretty much the opposite of what I said, which was that the class rules holder (ISAF in this case) ultimately decides but IME only makes changes when all parties agree.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I worked on rule changes for a SMOD class association for a few years. The holder of the class rules ultimately decides, which in this case is ISAF. IME class rule holders are reluctant to make changes without a consensus e.g. builder, class association and rule holders technical committee all...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    "Should I stay or should I go?" is the wrong Clash metaphor. The correct analogy for the Laser fiasco is "Train in Vain".
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    That one had passed me by. Yes it's bad, though IMO the Gazprom sponsorship is worse, in a different way.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    I'm aware of the conditions to register for VAT thank you! As in my time I've registered, de-registered and re-registered. It's all about trading turnover and has nothing to do with being incorporated or not. Asking ILCA for some facts is a radical suggestion. "Somebody" definitely should.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    No bingo I'm afraid. In the UK you don't have to be a company to charge VAT. It's possible for a sole trader (for example) to register for and charge VAT.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    "Company Limited by Guarantee" is precisely intended for organisations that want to incorporate and don't distribute a profit. But I'm reasonably certain ILCA isn't one of those because I can't trace any registration at Companies House.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    1.7% I think. A fleet of dinghies doesn't just maintain themselves though. Specially ones used for charter. It's a hire (boat) baby. https://youtu.be/LnuYlufHLCQ ;
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    Same here. Details would be trustees personal details. Banks are hot on this here because they are financially liable for money laundering done via accounts they provide. The first time I paid a nice fat client cheque into my business account, I got a phone call from the bank to ask, basically...
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    "Lax" in what way? Personally I'm just fine with living in a country where people can get together to form an organisation and don't have to tell the government a single thing about it.
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    Lasers - Applying a Blow Torch

    ILCA would not qualify as a CASC, http://www.cascinfo.co.uk/cascqualifyingconditions/ AFAIK CASC isn't related to incorporation anyway.
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