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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Ya - they got the engine started in the last few seconds before bumping, and then the ship 'collided with RM's port bow'. But to me, the reality is that if the ship had hit them rather than the other way round, RM would be toast in an instant.
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Which engine were they 'reversing' with - the one with the fouled prop, or the one that didn't run?
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    It would be analogous to rolling the dice on yet another wildly risky investment - kinda like Wall Street did in the derivatives market after the Federal government showed their hand during the S&L crisis. Think about it - the crew walked away (well, was flown away via helicopter on the tax...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    The 'silicone' package offers similar benefits in the pilothouse (perhaps even better) if you can get beyond the tramp stamp, but is less versatile - an NYYC function would be mildly uncomfortable to say the least.
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Apples and oranges - Phaedo's mast went over the side in 16 kts and smooth conditions, so the likelihood of tertiary damage was minor and damage control was relatively easy. RM lost the stick in the kind of conditons you would expect that sort of thing to happen - off the outerbanks in a winter...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    I KNEW it!
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    They were hit by a waterspout AFTER being dismasted by an insane plus hurricane force 'microburst' and then trying to bail onto a freighter? Oooh...this is getting exciting! :)
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Yet the POS Morgan survived - an actual hurricane, no less. Go figure.
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    I hear ya. I was just looking at it from the angle that maybe the other otion was WORSE than potentially getting crushed by a freighter or whatever it was. But I also think you downplayed the difficulty of getting the rig off a multi - never done it, but it looks like it would be pretty gruesome...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    I think you ae completely underestimating the extreme difficlty of clearing the rig on that boat, and the seriousness of the damage to the boat that was accumulating while they struggled. I would imagine the ONLY situation where you would consider attempting to board a freighter from a yacht in...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Yep - and that's actually an interesting comparison, because making a 'cruising' cat perform basically requires using similar construction to an extreme race boat, since multihulls are extremely weight sensitive. And that construction is by it's nature brittle and fragile. Hence my suggestion...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Or he raced IOR boats back in the day. Remember the Standfast 40?! :)
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    To me, the salient issues are what happened immediately AFTER the mast came down. Let's face it, masts go over the side, I've been onboard for one dismasting, and witnessed another one from a close enough vantage point that we thought we might get hit by the Windex. I have no doubt the GB guys...
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Well, this is a major 'car crash' - kinda like when all those Japanese guys stacked up their Ferraris. Human nature is what it is.
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    RAINMAKER DISMASTED OFF HATTERAS IN GALE

    Did I win?


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