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  1. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    I'm one of the few in the real universe. Proof is above, I won't bother pointing to all the wild, alternate-universe posts before those posters had to do an "oh shit, what did GD just say?" complete backflip back into reality ;)
  2. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Two different issues. The proposed rule about allowing adjustment up until 5:00 before any start did also elicit apoplectic posts to suggest that cheating, bribery, probably child-beating, by IM were all at play. GD's admission in this video that ETNZ were after the exact same rule should...
  3. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Seems to me that despite all the weeks of hysterical posts about some advantage to be gained by OR thru that safety allowance including by you, nav, that GD admitted right there: ETNZ can and have been doing the same damn thing all along. As IM had an email to prove, ETNZ is who suggested the...
  4. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    ^ My take for a long time has been that ETNZ should have backed the safety regs, as they apparently did initially. Them later deciding to instead act on a highly dubious proposition that it would have benefitted OR led to an awful lot of bullshit in its wake. It fanned unnecessary conspiracy...
  5. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Yep, maybe nitpicky is not the best description; but agreed on the rest, which was my point too.
  6. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Rewriting history? Oh gee, there it is. I even remembered the '163' correctly. Para's 163 to 167 do address the question and 165 gets especially nit-picky. IS THE COAST GUARD PERMIT A LAW OR REGULATION UNDER ARTICLE 16? 163. There was considerable debate amongst the Parties as to whether the...
  7. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Para's 163 to 170 or thereabouts, where the IJ got nit-picky about 'regulation' and another word, is what the whole decision hinged on. Could easily have gone the other way, I'd be surprised if there was even consensus. But agreed, safety aside it's probably for the best.
  8. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    BA is apparently not expecting any 'third-way' either: http://blog.sfgate.com/americascup/2013/07/12/americas-cup-ruling-could-clear-way-for-racing/ my bold -- ... New Zealand’s Dalton urged the teams “to put down their weapons and get on with it.” Oracle in their sightsIt is widely...
  9. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Not sure I see the distinction. As RD, surely he can only run races that 'comport to the conditions' of the Safety Plan regs in the MEP?
  10. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    ^ The IJ decided that the MEP is not the kind of regulation referred to by the Protocol, a decision that it based most everything else on. But it still is a regulation in the sense that it is what the CG has approved, under which races can be run. IM talked yesterday specifically about needing...
  11. ~Stingray~~

    Can anyone please explain the ACEA release post IJ ruling

    Bottom line is that so long as the MEP contains all 37, then teams have to meet the lowest-common-denominator, most-restrictive constraints of BOTH: the MEP ~and~ the original DR. It's the bastardized 'third-way' result. Neither OR nor AR already has rudders that can do that. TS said at the...


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