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that lifeboat drop reminds me of some of my better craps. enormous force of entry, controlled surfacing, lots of cleanup.

bob, bill, going with a lifting keel is GREAT. Glad you listened to us. it will definately be well recieved, particulalry at the right price, although i think this feature shoud be an option. Just design it in from the start! keep base cost of boat th same! Simple hydraulic, or screw jack...

Bob, Bill, Loco, DO NOT make two different keels, and DO not make the standard keel too shallow. you are totally compromising the performance of the boat. there is no better way to increase perfomance and reduce crew than high stability. that means the deeper the draft the better. The J105...

Glad you are sticking with the philosophy and the price goals. keep it simple. keep it fast. keep it reasonable. and with the learning you have done on the 10 and 7.5, I am sure the first boats off the line will have fewer teething problems. so when you say "you are on the money" does that...

well, they have said from the start they want it under $200k. they have also made some major changes to the inital design, as Bob said to reduce cost. so i think they are trying to keep it at $200k or lower. And well they should as they will sell a boat load of boats at that price. I doubt...

What is the status on the 13.8? I thought we were supposed to have some more information in the new year. Loco, Bob, MAN, when can we see more details? how is the retracting keel design coming?

can we get back to talking about the 13.8 and stop the bashing. I for one am VERY interested in the boat and would appreciate more info. wading through 40 posts of all of you bitch slapping each other is ... irritating. go away. Loco, any thoughts on how much transport will cost? wont be...

bob, loco, i think you should consider a transom hung rudder. or even dual. only negative would be the issue of cavitation, but you could probabaly add a leading edge tab that fits under the hull, like on the Farr 11s, to solve that problem. substantially cheaper, simpler, and therfore...

what do you mean by everything? mast? running rigging? sails?

Last time I checked 99.99% percent of racers raced with electronic assistance . . . . by using electrically powered instrumentation. If you want to use the "purity of sailing" arguments, then you should be sailing with a sextant for direction and your finger in the water for speed. stop being...

why not a removable rudder in a barrel design. if the first rudder breaks, you can carry a spare. Like to old henderson rudder. Kernan is using a modification of the concept for the SC37. can attach either a tiller or a wheel to it. perfect solution, and no more expensive to produce. with...

should probably add, - no matter what sail you put up, it will soon be out of its wind range on that lake. - having a smaller sail inventory can sometimes be a good thing.... ' the propensity for the wind to change increases by the square of the number of sails you carry on board".

- dawn coms really early at that time of year on the lake. - 20 sail chages in 7 hours can infact help you gain 5 miles on your competition. - lag on a digital compass makes steering straight in the fog dam near impossible - a 360 in the fog at twilight is nearly possible (see compass issue...

ya, it does. except the elan 450 weights in at over 25000 pounds! this needs to be 1/2 that and 1/2 the price. otherwise it is another mee too in an already crowded market.

Nice to finally see some progress on the FT 12.8/13.5/big boat. I am very interested in the boat, and the eventual quality/pricing. Since I assume you are actively looking for input and opinions, here are a few of mine. Steering Make it 2 smaller wheels. – easier to move around the cockpit...

for me, the perfect boat would be race pedigree, with just enough of a light weight interior to make it overnight and family friendly (and really, that just means a usable head and standing headroom). but offshore/off the wind optimized or round the cans/upwind and down wind optimized? big...

can you be a bit more specific? a few generalities? a few sketches? targets? etc?

too much.

anybody know how much?

lake. harbour too shifty and too small.