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I think we're saying the same thing ;-)

True. Hence my "orders of magnitude". (Only World Tour teams take part in the TdF, right ?) Which is the reason why Vendee sponsors are mostly : 1- French 2- Aiming at the french public 3- And/or doing internal communication 4- Interested in conveying values of merit and resilience and...

Average budget of a TdF team : 18M€ per year. Some teams are way above that. Estimated budget of the best-funded IMOCA campaign 2016-2020 (Charal, by far) : 15 to 20 M€ over the whole 4 years cycle. So no, there is still a large margin before saying TdF costs less ! But regarding bang for the...

Yes it is !

That used to be true with "pointy" bows, where you'd typically have to add 50-100kg of iron or lead at the bottom of the hull, between the keel and the companionway, to reach the minimum weight. The added surface area and the structural reinforcement needed to withstand the increased shocks of...

Yeah, saw that, too. Impressive ! Regarding the weight of the boats : Most recent foilers are around 8.6-8.8 tons, with Malizia being rumored to be at 9.3 tons (in IMOCA measurement condition).

Yep, Eric Bellion's new Raison-designed IMOCA, leaving Persico in ITALY ;-) (See Eric's Instagram for a short reel showing it from the front)

Before he announced buying HB, Alan was rumored to be in the loop for one of the Raison-Le Cam non-foiling scows...

You've got to be much stronger and in much better shape than I am, then... (which is entierly possible, if I'm honest !)

Tiring ? It's a punishment ! In normal operation, there's nothing worse, except hoisting the main ! :eek: ;)

Correct ! LinkedOut was directly built in the moulds of Guillaume Verdier's Super 60 that was supposed to be the Ocean Race's new OD. Apivia is a very slight deviation from the same design. In the meantime, they have evolved separately, and their foils are more different than one might think...

Well, he won the Mini-transat on their 667 ! I for one am excited to see what they and Antoine Koch have come up with...

That list isn't very accurate anymore... As far as I know : Ruyant, LinkedOut - Koch/Finot-Conq, CDK, 2023 Richomme, Arkea Paprec - Koch/Finot-Conq, Multiplast, 2023 Available - Manuard, Black Pepper Yachts, 2023 (A very good french skipper announced he was going to get this boat, but I can't...

Exactly

Can't believe I forgot THE riff that started it all... in a pretty goode version !

Oh god, there are so many... Anything by Led Zep, ACDC, etc... But here are a few favorites : Plus a few that have already been mentionned ;-)

Pogo 36 is a finot-conq design, not VPLP !!! And if you try sailing a family cruise in one of those scow bow Class 40s, I can guarantee they're so uncomfortable your family will hate you for it ! Plus for all I see, for a cruiser this 56 isn't exactly what you'd call a deep, thin bow. Look at...

Yep. Pionneered in (what was to become) IMOCAs around 1994 by Finot.

HB foils are full (as in solid) carbon since V1. Arkea tried 2 versions of hollow foils before reverting to (mostly) full foils for V3. Which quite certainly cost them a lot in bulb weight as well, because of the increased weight of the foils... Structurally, hollow means that there are shear...

Yes, that or the double check of the structural engineering (pretty standard practice these days).