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  1. Schoonerman

    Choosing the right performance cruising cat for Uhuru.

    lol at flat out, 12 cylinder, turbo powered racing machine. Tempting...G and I have been relegated to sailing 5.5 meter Columbias...lol. We threatened to get the Viper (yes, we still have one) up to Huntington...and it may happen this year. I bought a J/80 from Jeff!!!!!
  2. Schoonerman

    Choosing the right performance cruising cat for Uhuru.

    Here you go....problem solved....next :) https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/1986-cherubini-48-staysail-schooner-7300700/ Nice seeing you J!
  3. Schoonerman

    Every sailboat needs a musical instrument

    We took the emerald team out sailing when they were in San Francisco this year on our Santa Cruz 50.
  4. Schoonerman

    Every sailboat needs a musical instrument

    Here’s my emerald X7 carbon guitar. I’ve had this 10+ years now and the beautiful thing is it is completely stable no matter how wet/dry or hot/cold it is.
  5. Schoonerman

    Wanted to Buy - J/80

    Hard to find J/80's West Coast but I am looking for one.  Anyone out there selling?   Drew 415-543-7333
  6. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    I'm wasn't asking for permission...I was asking for plans/lines/drawings. I found those.  I know I don't need permission but I'm always willing to listen to contrarian viewpoints for perspective. 
  7. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    This is SO much easier than the 3 restos I did on the 78' 1933 Brigantine Rendezvous (interior shot of our work here)...but she sunk and HAD to have it to be put back into USCG passenger service. Doing the Deck resto on the SC50 was a bit of labor too but that turned out awesome and was very...
  8. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    That builder is in SoCal and builds a lot of boats! $9k per deck...tooling is the bugaboo. 
  9. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    $8-9k plus tooling.  The BOM is under 3K so we are looking for a space in Half Moon Bay to build these. 
  10. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    Yes...they displace the same but IMHO, the SC 27 is a much more spry boat and once again IMHO, a better built boat. J/world didn't put outboards on J/80's as it allowed Wayne to use instructors who were not USCG certified. It was a great workaround...something we couldn't do at South Beach...
  11. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    C26 is great concept....poorly executed IMHO.  Balance is all wrong...though that could be designed around. Franky the C26 isn't half the boat the SC27 is...once again IMHO. The SC27i will be a MUCH better instructional platform! Beneteau came out with a 26 footer that they developed...
  12. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    Both boats have tiny cockpits...not what we need to teach sailing.
  13. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    J80's typically sell for $20K+ (no trailer)  There's rarely any for sale in the Cali and shipping them is $$.  We looked hard at the 80. I've sailed a few and on the Bay in 25+ they are a bit of a beast. The 27 is SO much easier to sail for newbies.  Not sure about the set-on-fire comment...
  14. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    We're sensitive to the fleet. They are awesome boats. Sadly ever year or so, one gets cut up and dumped...last year happening at Richmond Yacht Club.  We use these as a tool and teach a shitload of people how to sail on them. I can't think of a better legacy than that for such a venerable design...
  15. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    OK, I'll bite. What boat works for $20K?
  16. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    I agree...the 27's are an incredible boat. We had 6 of them at one time. We bought all the 27's from Cal maritime. They are a hard-to-find combination of quality, cost, performance and 'cool.'  Even though COVID is gutting my business, I'll fight to the last day to keep my SC 50 for the very...
  17. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    New build is roughly $40k plus tooling....I wish sailing schools could make that kind of $$
  18. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    We need a longer cockpit, particularly during COVID for social distancing during classes.  We defiantly do not need virtually any cabin space but the cuddy will work well and retain the stiffness from the furniture tabbings.
  19. Schoonerman

    Santa Cruz 27 Plans/Lines/Drawings?

    Too heavy, monster rig, build quality was inconsistent, need huge motor, too big (berthing).... 27 is a bomber boat. Fits the bill nicely and will be more affordable in the long run than 80's even doing the decks. 
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