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  1. 12 metre

    ...A Blast from the future...revisited

    This is an archived thread about Zotl, a rather unusual craft Anyway, the boat is now for sale: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-character-wood-sailboat/7454760593.html At the time a poster complained about how ugly it was with the reverse sheer and rolled deck edge. ...
  2. 12 metre

    Musto zipper jams

    A good friend of mine has given me his virtually new Musto MPX jacket and salopettes - plus a carload of other gear since he won't be around to use them much longer. In the 6 tries I've made to zip up the jacket - the zipper jammed on the fabric on the way up, usually near the top.  The last...
  3. 12 metre

    Is this the ex-DC CF-27 for sale in SA classifieds?

    There is a CF-27 in SA classifieds named Menace - asking $2500.  https://sailinganarchy.com/advert/owner-14/ Oddly enough the boat is in Mississippi - I don't know why anyone would pay the trucking charges to get a 27 footer from SoCal to MIssissippi -  unless it was a really special boat...
  4. 12 metre

    Mission Impossible?

    Okay, more like setting out on a wing and a prayer. Spotted this CL ad from someone wanting a few sailing lessons so they can successfully navigate from Puget Sound to Portland OR - by Oct 1: https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/d/tacoma-in-need-of-sailing-lessons/7381827338.html Sounds like...
  5. 12 metre

    Dehler...not a Dehler

    Stumbled across a Dehler 34 advertised as a Brighton Dehler 34 Now some of the Sprinta Sports were built by Brighton Yachts in Ontario Canada.  So I am thinking this 34 was also built by the same company. Noticeable differences in the few exterior photos were; 1.       Double spreader in-line...
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    New popups?

    Just started getting stupid fuckin' popup ads between posts in any thread. Anyone one else getting these? Is this a new thing? Doesn't occur on any other website - only SA and is annoying as fuck. Anyone with tips on how to stop the popups?
  7. 12 metre

    Cathedral or jumpers?

    Looking at a boat with an IOR style frac rig – i.e. replete with backstay, runners, and checks. Is there any way of getting rid of the runners/checks while still maintaining forestay tension?  Short of going to a swept back rig that is. Jumper stays are one solution, although they have their...
  8. 12 metre

    Is it finally happening?

    At the outset of the pandemic, there were several threads about how boat prices were going to drop. Of course we know the opposite appeared to happen - inventories of boats for sale dried up and used boat prices went up. I was going through Yachtworld tonight and noticed a LOT of recent price...
  9. 12 metre

    Peterson Maxi Maxi MORC

    No, that is not a typo. Stumbled across a CL ad for a Dencho 33.  Ad says it is a Choate built Peterson 33 and from the few photos is definitely a MORC rather than IOR style boat.  Ad included an image of an old Socal PHRF cert listing the Mfg type as a Dencho 33 and the designer as...
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    Older J/30 galley update

    Contemplating a 1979 J/30 across the border.  Problem is with the Coronavirus thing, I am unable to view her. The galley on the pre '84s looks kind of cramped in the photos - I like the layout in the post 84 ones much better. Anybody updated the galley on an older J/30 to be like a post 84...
  11. 12 metre

    Schock 35 vs J/35 - Redux

    Several old threads comparing the sailing/racing performance of the two but I’m not interested in that.  I’m more interested in how they compare for cruising.  I’ve raced on both but that was probably 30 years ago and I can’t recall really what the interiors were like, nor did I care back then...
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    Tack in place with G/5?

    Planning to glue a fibreglass piece to the underside of the deck.  Clamps will be difficult to use if at all. So I'm thinking of laying some thickened epoxy to the flanged part to be glued to the underside, but leave a smallish area void of the thickened epoxy. Then fill that with thickened...
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    Miller 29

    Stumbled across an ad for a Miller 29 in the Seattle CL.  Not interested in the boat personally, but I am curious about it There was a builder in Seattle (Earl Miller) that built the Miller 28 in small quantities.  The cabin on this one looks similar - but the hull and foils are entirely...
  14. 12 metre

    Quantum Sails question

    Probably should be in Gear Anarchy, but I'm in a bit of a rush for an answer I have been looking at a newer Quantum main circa 2015  described as "One piece membrane construction utilizing 13000dpi 100% Black Aramid yarns in an integrated network of Straight X  Yellow Aramid fibers sandwiched...
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    Are topmast backstays obsolete?

    My boat came with huge roach main and twin topmast backstays.  Couldn't these simply be replaced with a single backstay and flicker?  Any reason why not or am I missing something? The boat originally had a single backstay and I assume the conversion to twin was done when they went with the huge...
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    Mad Max

    She may not have the provenance of Pendragon, but Mad max was listed for sale last week and today the owner has dropped the asking price to $10,000 CANADIAN. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-mad-max-sailboat/6935695823.html  She is in decent shape, new diesel installation. ...
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    Pendragon on the market

    For anyone with an interest in old IOR Ton Cup winners - Pendragon (yes THE Pendragon  - winner of '78 3/4 Ton and '79 1 Ton Worlds is up for sale in Cali for under $20K).  And no, I have no interest in this boat, other than it has an amazing history and pedigree.  I would put her up there with...
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    Valiant butt surgery

    It looks like Valiant underwent some surgery to her stern area in the not too distant past.  Yes, Brit performed his "magic" to her in '74 to make her a better trial horse for Mariner - that's not what I am referring to.  She had a lot of stern deadrise when launched in '70.  You can see that in...
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    Epoxy/aluminum long term bonding

    Probably a thread on this already, but can't find one - so here goes... Most literature indicates epoxy will create a satisfactory bond to properly prepared aluminum. By the same token, the general consensus on internet forums is “yes it will bond – but not for very  long”.  Mainly because...
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    Keel bolt cover

    Probably using the wrong terminology, but is there any literature out there about the minimum amount of lateral cover required for the keel bolts of a lead keel.  More specifically, the minimum distance between the the bolt outer surface and the keel face - to keep the bolts from tearing out of...
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