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    The return of IOR

    The lead ingots would typically be a last minute thing to measure in at a Ton level as in Ganbare below, which is a bit of an unusual example - or a quick and dirty (and cheap) way to add sail area or some other tradeoff if performance was lacking in a certain area. At the design stage, the...
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    Banned Innovations in Sail Racing

    You would never be able to attain the speed necessary for supercavitation in a human powered sub. As for ejecting bubbles, I believe they would float to the surface rather than envelope the hull.
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    Trump's last General

    And here I thought this was about his other "Generals" - the ones led by Hershel Walker 40 years ago in yet another of his business failures.
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    Russia warns it may cut bilateral ties with United States

    Sounds a lot like a scene near the end of Syriana. Good movie worth watching with George Clooney, Matt Damon, and Christopher Plummer.
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    IOR landfills?

    For a less than 20 year old 26 foot boat with something resembling sails - $20k sounds like a great deal. But like you say it is a Mac 26X
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    IOR landfills?

    I wasn't talking so much about the number of them on the market as much as the asking prices for them. $22k seems outrageous to me yet that seems to be the going asking price for these things. Just surprised at the prices, that's all.
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    IOR landfills?

    For some strange reason - I don't know if it's wishful thinking or reality, but there are numerous CL ads for Mac 26Xs in the $20k range or more. At least a half dozen such in all the California CLs. I guess there is a ready market for people wanting a sailboat without knowing much about...
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    The return of IOR

    I stand corrected
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    IOR landfills?

    Yup. I just found out a couple of months ago that Vern passed away late last year. I thought the old bugger would never pass away. I think the newest sails were 40 year old Hood Spectra. Saw him racing with those once maybe 6-7 years ago...
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    The return of IOR

    Chain girth? That's part of the International Rule (i.e. metre boats). No mention of it in IOR.
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    IOR landfills?

    That ad was from 2013.
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    IOR landfills?

    I gotta laugh. $26k? According to this, that boat was for sale a year ago at $12,400 http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/One Tonner/OFa 4 Jenny H.htm And even that was probably high. Do some people think they got some special deal that suddenly makes the boat more than double in value? Reminds...
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    The return of IOR

    Ah yes. Liz of Lymington a David Thomas 3/4 Ton. I think besides rapidly closing the aft girth stations he was attempting to get a much deeper than normal rudder - in hopefully cleaner flow off the "bustle" than you would get in a normal extended bustle. Kind of a handsome boat with...
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    The return of IOR

    And yet they both sailed at the '73 QT Worlds. https://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter%20Tonner/Q%20Black%20Bottom.htm https://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Quarter%20Tonner/Q%20Robber%20original.htm No such thing as an IOR stern really - although most designers took inspiration from the latest...
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    The return of IOR

    The pintail era really only lasted a couple of years. Began in '73 but by the '75 QT Cup in Deauville, with the success of the twin Farr 727's the writing was on the wall and reinforced in the '76 QT Cup in Corpus Christi by the dominating performances of Magic Bus and Fun. The QT class was...
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    Another IOR boat headed for the glue factory.

    Could be a 37 - the 33 and 37 have a similar look. If it was advertised at $100 - no way the keel and rig were included. Assuming it sold, someone just paid $100 to assume a $2,000 liability (rough estimate to demo and send to landfill). Demo costs may be less in USA, but that is roughly...
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    Another IOR boat headed for the glue factory.

    Almost certainly a Farr 33 sans keel. Too bad. I really like those boats. Where is it and is it for sale? Of course without keel and rig it is worthless.
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    What to ask for a Crown 34?

    Same designer but built by different companies. Not sure if designer Hein was involved with both companies. SJB would likely know. Crown built by Calgan Marine (North Van?) while Sceptre built by Sceptre Yachts in Richmond. Between the two, my preference would lean toward the Sceptre.
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    i done did it

    I don't think I said that the mods make the boat slower or that the Hobie is undercanvassed. Quite the opposite in the last regard. My point with turboing - from a PHRF and RTB perspective - is that it works best with undercanvassed boats IMO. The problem with going with a bigger main smaller...
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    Hotfoot 31's - where are they

    FYI, the boat is named Border Reiver. It's a Scottish thing referring to a group of clans and the original owners (Stampers) were Scots IIRC. I assume the Stampers were border reivers. If the sails were old dacron ones, they are probably fine for your intended use, or even for sailing. Just...
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