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    rs aero

    Neither. Like you I am looking forward to it. However I am really tired of the Laser crowd bashing both the D-Zero and the Aero and then spewing a lot of passive-aggressive whining about how we're bashing their boat. FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Cute banner, how about a better hull design, better foils, actual functioning rig controls, better spars, better sails, and building it out of better materials Sounds like a pretty good starting point, nyet? FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Au contraire. The Laser class is dead but unfortunately still on it's feet. And you're here yelling at everybody in a thread about a different boat. Lasers are an example of legislated obsolescence; they are an ergonomic and engineering nightmare. The newer generation singlehanders are worlds...
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    rs aero

    It is a good question, and here in the US the assumption is that everybody jumping into a different class must be cannibalized from an existing class. Which is why the class organizations here try to stamp out innovation with all their might! NEW BOATS ARE EVIL !!! However, another way to look...
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    rs aero

    DB thank you, that is one of the best sailing reviews ever- gives a good sense of what the boat sails like. I'm a bit surprised to hear people describe it as "tippy" with the hull form looking like it has considerably more initial stability than a Laser hull. FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Yep most US class racing is done in boats that are old & clunky and a royal PITA. Which is why it is shrinking so rapidly, while the existing classes struggle to make sure that any sailor entering the sport -only- sails one of their PITA clunkers, which in turn produces a high rate of people...
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    rs aero

    Meaningful how? I don't think anybody is looking for foiler speeds. However the Laser is well-known, tuning & technique for sailing it is well developed. If the Aero is beating the Laser out of the box then it's safe to say it goes OK. More will come! FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Depends on what you're happy with. One of my favorite boats in my life was a knock-together plywood job; much of the rigging was clothesline. Sails were at least real sails, hand me downs from some long-vanished class racer. The boom vang was a doubled length of clothesline secured to boom and...
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    rs aero

    And put some shape in the deck so it's not crippling, and use decent laminate schedule for the hull It only took them ~30 yr to put an actual boom vang on, in place of the tinker-toy crap it had. Maybe in another 30 years... ... ... FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Well we don't give a rat's patootie about who the sponsor is. This is Sailing Anarchy, not sailing nicey-nice. Personally I want to see honest opinion and the reasoning behind that opinion, not advertising BS. And maybe even then, depending on who's in the Laser ;) FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Better at what? Faster? get a trap boat or a cat or a motorboat. Easier to rig, better handling, generally less PITA all around... that's a low bar to get over. The Laser is a terrible boat in many respects. Bigger numbers at class events? That's the biggest factor in favor of the Laser, and...
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    rs aero

    That depends on what you consider most important. 1- Sailing 2- Ensuring the right people win Handicap fleet racing can be a lot of fun if you don't take yourself too seriously. Look at how many people mock PHRF (including me) and look at how many people keep racing PHRF (including me)...
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    rs aero

    yes, well... he's footing off a bit to demonstrate planing upwind :rolleyes: FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Yes, that's what I want to see, also. Thought we were going to see it in that last video but it was cleverly edited out. FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Not a bad video, you can see the sailor's actions in wind & reaction to waves; of course it looks faster than it probably is. Looks to me like even with the chines, it steers pretty smoothly thru waves on the quarter. A guy who can lift and carry 48k (smitch over 100lbs) is probably in...
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    rs aero

    Ah so... the ones I see are probably lagging behind the times. Thanks... makes sense, since power used to lift is power that's not used to propel. FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    I've never owned a Laser but I have raced them a lot... you can easily guess I don't like them much Planing upwind: it kind of depends on how you define "planing" but it also depends on VMG in pointing vs footing vs "planing" https://flic.kr/p/nq5sRR https://flic.kr/p/npM5XS This is in...
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    rs aero

    That's what he said! I would take that as Irish poetic license. Or perhaps it could be scientifically explained that cold water is denser and gives more lift, so the boat can plane upwind under certain exceptional conditions that you or I or 7070 will never be able to experience ;) FB- Doug
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    rs aero

    Since there were two seperate words, "sailing" for the one and "windsurfing" for the other. Both are propelled by sails, yes, but then so are iceboats. Oh I "get" his perspective also. I'm not going into the issue of which is superior, frankly I windsurfed for a few years largely because I had...
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    rs aero

    Sounds to me like you don't enjoy sailing Not a slam, I know a lot of people in the same boat so to speak. I probably would be myself, except that somewhere in the long years I woke up to the fact that just plain sailing is actually fun. You just need a boat that isn't literally a flaming pain...
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