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  1. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    If I post an article that was written before the tape was made and claim that it has your answers, would that be good enough? Just trying to follow your example here.
  2. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    I asked you first, so who has been deflecting longer? Cut it out and I will, as I said. :P Or we could talk about urban and rural gun laws. Did you know we have nutty gungrabbers in rural areas too?
  3. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    What does the subject of reviewing a tape to spot exactly when something happened have to do with the subject of reviewing a tape to spot exactly when something happened? If you can't figure that one out, why do I waste time with you? Go figure out exactly when on the tape agents (plural)...
  4. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Yeah, right. The last time I asked you to review a tape and tell me exactly where you thought you saw something, you linked to an article written before the tapes were made and said "most of it was in there." In fact nothing from the future is ever in that or any other article. Do your...
  5. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Informed speculation, in this case. And no, you were not right, I was. I did not need to review that tape, I remembered. The guy was trying to say he had a gun and was told to shut up. He followed that order and it resulted in death threats against him. Here is something that is not...
  6. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    This whole problem could be solved by a bit of training. The first question a cop should ask is, "Do you have any weapons?" They ask for license, registration, and insurance info. The two times I have been stopped while carrying a gun, I made my concealed weapons permit very obvious as I pulled...
  7. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Missing the point. At ANY time after the "shut up" moment, disclosure would be too late, and this guy would fly off the handle.
  8. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    The guy tried to say he was armed and was told to shut up, so he did. Then the cop got mad because he shut up and threatened to kill him. As I mentioned elsewhere, this is the problem with laws that mandate disclosure of concealed weapons: they force citizens to take early control of a...
  9. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Gunshot Demographics It's not an urban problem or a gun problem. It's a culture problem.
  10. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Actually, you didn't tell me that, you just said I couldn't follow a conversation because you mentioned restrictions on writing gun laws and I started talking about the only restriction that existed at the time. Are you talking about the officer who threatened to execute a citizen for following...
  11. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    OK, I'll try again. They are not allowed to tailor other people's laws to their specific beliefs because, well, do I really have to explain why? They are allowed to tailor their own laws for their specific beliefs, as I noted they have been doing. So basically, the guy can't figure out nonsense...
  12. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Whining that they have to live within the second amendment is also foolish, and I would be happy to talk about why, but I thought we were not talking about that? If you are right in your speculation, it would be more correct to say that he was wondering why he is not allowed to tailor other...
  13. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    If Mommy orders Junior not to sell to felons, is that the same as Mommy ordering Junior to do a background check on every sale?
  14. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Because the law says you cannot sell to a prohibited person, but does not require background checks on all sales. If you are charged with violating that law, "But they did not make me do a background check" is not going to get you out of trouble. It's still against the law.
  15. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    So, these people who do not understand why they are not allowed to tailor those laws for their specific situation, do you suppose they are just stupid, or what? They are allowed to tailor those laws for their specific situation, and the law banning guns from porches and garages is proof. That's...
  16. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    You want me to support your claim again? I already tried... Since I said that, the courts have ruled that if they are going to require range time as a condition of gun possession, Chicago must allow gun ranges, so now there are two restrictions on gun ownership that have not passed second...
  17. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Dead bodies indeed are not abstract bits of case law, but they do not prevent anyone from tailoring laws to their specific situation. Why are some folks not allowed to tailor gun laws for their specific situation?
  18. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    Shame for the debate you said you wanted to break down because of confusion about what the meaning of "it" is, Mark. From context, it looks like you may be talking about a court case, but I have gotten into trouble making assumptions about what you might mean before. Besides, if it is a court...
  19. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    When you say "it's not an abstract bit of case law" what is the "it" you are referencing?
  20. Pertinacious Tom

    Rahm's new Police Chief on gun rights

    That is a second amendment case, and it is what I was talking about. I was wondering what YOU were talking about when you said they could not tailor gun laws to their specific situation. If not the second amendment, what were you talking about?
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