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  1. ftbinc

    CHI-MAC Race Wx

    Hey oshitsky wind will be 8-12 out of the wsw. Sky's will be sunny.  Overnight they will back to the ese the go east all day sunday. Temps in the upper 70s and sunny.  No wind above 12 and none below 8.   Does this heplp you get through the week?
  2. ftbinc

    Rules and protest question

    Brass: I meant to say, if the RRS's did not apply then Colregs would apply. I mis-spoke when I said if there was no protest hearing, What I should have said was if the OA does not include something like "that the race will be governed by the rules as defined in The Racing Rules of Sailing" in...
  3. ftbinc

    Rules and protest question

    Hi Allen: Tried to PM you , but i couldn't. Again, If they choose to follow the RRS, then the OA agrees to be governed by them as well - Rule 3 of RRS 3 ACCEPTANCE OF THE RULES By participating in a race conducted under these racing rules, each competitor and boat owner agrees (a) to be...
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    Rules and protest question

    I am assuming the SSIs stated the race would be governed by the Racing Rules of Sailing RRS. If they DID NOT, then only ColRegs would apply (See Rule 13) and they are really fucked, since they basically ran you down. If they invoke the RRS, then they must follow rule 70 and the US Sailing...
  5. ftbinc

    Chicago Area III

    The SIs for the rally say 10:55. Much different than the NORs and past years
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    Rules and protest question

    Allen - Please read case 87 As pointed out in this case, you are not required to take action until you realize the other boat is not taking action...By your own admission, when you saw the other boat, you stayed up to avoid and did not change course, feeling this was your best chance to avoid a...
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    Rules Question - an odd Rule 18 situation

    The defense, if you see the port boat coming, is to point down at them, accelerate (Requires the trimmers to be on the ball) get the inside overlap and claim mark room under 18.3 and ROW under 11. If you miss the mark, they are clearly in violation of 18.3. OR make sure they force you above...
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    Rules Question - an odd Rule 18 situation

    Dreaded: Rules 10 and 13 still apply - a boat lee bowing in the zone runs the risk of breaking either of these rules - from a practical standpoint, how close would a lee bow have to be to be in the zone? pretty darn close. If the SB LL boat has to avoid before the tacking boat is on a close...
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    What's your preferred non-cash sail race/regatta/series prize?

    Useful and displayable items: Really miss the NOOD and Verve shirts for entire crew (useful and rewarded entire crew for the effort) with the finish place on them. Sailbags... I still use the sailcloth bag I won in 2005. Others bags given to crew members... Brag flags
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    Chicago<>Port Huron Super Mac History?

    1985 was a fast Chicago to Sarnia race. We finished around 7-8:00 PM on Tuesday in an NM45 Limit Up 32542, owned at the time by Marshall Wright - ColYC. I believe we were 4th in the section. Other boats that raced that year: Heritage, FUJIMO 2; Stars and Stripes, Magic (Who had some customs...
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    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    There are two problems with this: 1. The protest committee found in hearing the committee boat was NOT on station 2. This would have made the finish line 1 mile long at 315 degrees. The mark the committee boat use to finish the boats could have been crossed, without breaking the "plane" of...
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    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    Thanks.
  13. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    Blubber, On this posting there were at least two, if not three boats represented, I was on one of them. I really hope my posts were not taken as trashing the Race committee or the Protest committee. I truly respect their time and said more than once they made a mistake, but they handled it in...
  14. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    Jahazi did have a GREAT race and deserved to win this race. Additionally, Jahazi was one of the boats that freely and honestly admitted, when asked by the Protest committee, they did not take the orange inflatable mark to port. Proud to know you and compete with you. You guys are the winners...
  15. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    SI 9: Marks SI 9.2: The Starting mark will be a green inflatable mark and the finish mark will be an orange inflatable mark SI 13 The Finish the finish line will be between a staff displaying a blue flag on the race committee boat and the course side of the finishing mark to be left to port...
  16. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    If the first boat that finished, w/o the committee boat present had used an iphone to photo the boats as they cross the "Line" the time in the meta data, plus the picture with a sailnumber should be enough for and disputes on when someone crossed... but it takes presents of mind to do this...
  17. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    The prescription US Sailing prescribes that, if a finishing mark is missing but another one remains in place, the finishing line is a line through the remaining mark at a 90 [degree] angle to the last leg and of the shortest practicable length. If the race committee is absent when a boat...
  18. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    Since the rc boat was 1 mile away from the SI location of the finish, the race committee was absent. ( if I go to work at An office one mile from my office will my boss think I'm not absent?) Read rule 34 and the US prescription. It looks to me this rule should apply. Just because it is a rare...
  19. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    Except for three things: 1. the PC found there was no race committee on station 2. There was a proper mark, as described by the SIs at the exact location described in the SIs ( and there was not a proper mark, as described by the SIs where a race committee boat was ( so there were at least...
  20. ftbinc

    Chicago Race Committee Fiasco

    WHAT WENT DOWN WITH AS LITLE EDITORIALIZING AS I CAN MUSTER: Protest committee found that the race committe was not on station, finding a boat flying race committee flags 3/4 to one mile west of the location in the SIs would not constitute a rc boat on station. Additionally, the SIs in...
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