“COVID Is over” thread deleted
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SloopJonB
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It does get messy. I would ask though - What's the method of action? Why would a vaccine that replicates only a small fraction of the virus toolkit be demonstrably better at protecting an individual than having a patient's immune system actually fight off the whole collection of tricks in the Virus playbook?
These sorts of cohort studies are always confounding. My guess is that the truth lies in the same truth as to why there's variation between Moderna and Pfeizer in the first place. They use the same mRNA, but Moderna is 3x as much mRNA dosage than Pfeizer and creates a stronger response - both in good and bad effects. But overall, they're pretty similar. Getting COVID itself has a similar range of response, depending on how quick an individuals immune system responds and what was the initial viral load.
The only reason I can imagine that the vaccine creates a stronger response overall is because the load of mRNA is actually much higher than what an average person would experience through the natural progression of the virus. That actually feeds the narrative that the vaccine is 'more dangerous', FWIW because it IS a heavier load that what you'd nominally have to go through. But, it's non-replicating. So there's that.
I don't think there's ever going to be a clean answer and do appreciate the links.
As I said in the deleted thread, everyone on earth is going to have to run the COVID gauntlet. I'd rather do it on my terms.
Intellectually, I'm against compelled vaccines for 'the public good' simply because I don't trust governments to not abuse that power over time. I would rather rely on convincing people, than coercing. I don't trust Joe Biden to responsibly use that authority any more than I trusted Donald Trump when he used that authority. I think they've both made dumb decisions in the name of the 'public good' where public good = THEIR likelihood of re-election.
But honestly, I don't care that much in this particular case and people are so wrapped up in their own politics, convincing is kind of a fool's errand. That ship has sailed, unfortunately. The vaccine is remarkable. The worst impacts of the disease are dramatically reduced through even one shot. This is a 'duh' vaccine, up there with MMR, polio, etc. I feel bad for anyone that has an adverse reaction but compared to the disease itself, the side effects are minimal. I truly believe that if you have a bad time with the side effects from the vaccine, COVID itself would probably kill you outright.
There IS a issue with the Lipid anchors for the mRNA shots. That's real and deserves consideration. I'm actually looking forward to the non-injectable vaccines. I think that's better for the world as a whole. I hope they work.
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Burning Man
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So, I'll ask again because no one answered the first time....... If the vaccine is too scary to get because of:
How come then do these very same people take ivermectin, inject bleach, and use intense UV light on their anus?? BB said he was prepared for COVID with "40 tabs" of Ivermectin in case he got sick.I about shit myself laughing.
- A: It's long term safety is unproven
- B: It's a gov't conspiracy to control you
- C: I don't need no shot, it's just the flu
- D: Muh Rats
How come then do these very same people take ivermectin, inject bleach, and use intense UV light on their anus?? BB said he was prepared for COVID with "40 tabs" of Ivermectin in case he got sick.I about shit myself laughing.
phillysailor
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You’re making a couple of assumptions. First off, I don’t think it’s clear anyone complained about Bozo. The mods read these threads, and one that screams “COVID misinformation” is certainly going to attract attention.quod umbra said:
And we also don’t know that it was this thread that caused the mods to revoke his privileges. Apparently there was another thread involving lynching?
Baby sounds like he was testing the limits of the thread police, and found out they are not willing to be pushed around.
Society comes with both rights and responsibilities for individuals: seems many Jan 6ers and social media hotheads are surprised they must respect important boundaries.
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Nice!
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I would bet money he was flicked because of the lynching thread. It was so far beyond acceptable that he *should* have been flicked because of it. And it was in the thread title, so any mod doing a quick scan would have caught it right away.
Personally if I was a mod and saw that I would ban him for life.
I think it's just a control thing. Honestly, I think its the same logic that convinces some people to conceal-carry. Statistics and facts don't really matter. Its about emotional coping mechanism to deal with an amorphous and unresolvable fear.
Nice!
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Yah what BS said. The title was something about how a lynching would have been appropriate. The post itself had a photo of the suspect of a recent high profile vehicular crime.
It was pretty disgusting.
BB in general has been pretty disgusting since his "return". He is probably happier on Parler.
He’s still here, he’s got a nursery of socks. I see for instance sea slug is posting again.
I have trouble seeing him as sea slug, he doesn't have the vocabulary. I thought Vermin was more likely.
Sol Rosenberg
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The place is a bit more honest, decent and less American hating already.
Gouvernail
Lottsa people don’t know I’m famous
dude!!! Seriously?? This country is blessed with a fantastic beaches all over the place.
The beaches on the Great Lakes don’t even have nasty assed salt water!!
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Or dangerous creatures
obviously, you have not visited California
or Cape Cod
shit dude… the list is endless.
A critical component in the evaluation of world class beaches is the water temperature. 80 degrees or more for most of the year being the cutoff.
Gouvernail
Lottsa people don’t know I’m famous
One man’s opinion and one with which I differ.
Warmer water carries all sorts of nasty stuff that causes sickness snd even death.
I will grant, swimming on a California beach is not my idea of comfortable.
However, the Mike’s of beaches at Presque Isle on Lake Erie are filled with thousands of people every summer because the swimming is fantastic and there are no man-o-war or other creatures who destroy bear feet.
But… they didn’t film this in FLA
AJ Oliver
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SloopJonB
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