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Burning Man

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I'm thinking more along the lines of a reconciliation between warring parties. He's repudiated and perhaps convicted, gets a pardon because jailing him would start a civil war, his minions go to jail, lots of good lessons learned.
I’m sorry, if Jailing him after a fair trial and conviction starts a Civil War, then I say bring it the fuck on. I think we’re due for a bit of bloodletting. Starting with the propagandists like fux neuse who started this whole mess in the first place.
 

Marty Gingras

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I’m sorry, if Jailing him after a fair trial and conviction starts a Civil War, then I say bring it the fuck on. I think we’re due for a bit of bloodletting. Starting with the propagandists like fux neuse who started this whole mess in the first place.
Well ya, 'cause you are heavily armed...but that's not the way civilized adults handle political stuff.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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I was busy and didn’t follow that super closely but I read something about that search, something to the effect that it wasn’t the DOJ itself but the IG office of the DOJ Something about the difference being significant. Maybe @Sol Rosenberg can address.
Not sure, but I suspect OIG involved due to the investigation involving someone at DOJ. Clarke?
 

Sol Rosenberg

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I’m sorry, if Jailing him after a fair trial and conviction starts a Civil War, then I say bring it the fuck on. I think we’re due for a bit of bloodletting. Starting with the propagandists like fux neuse who started this whole mess in the first place.
Agreed, as long as the targeting eventually ends up focused on the people who have divided the masses, and not just their media devices with which they do the dividing. The issues in this country will never get resolved until the Best Americans fear for their lives and/or their fortunes. They showed us on 1/6 what they will finance when things don’t go the way they like.
 

billy backstay

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Agreed, as long as the targeting eventually ends up focused on the people who have divided the masses, and not just their media devices with which they do the dividing. The issues in this country will never get resolved until the Best Americans fear for their lives and/or their fortunes. They showed us on 1/6 what they will finance when things don’t go the way they like.

So long as their GOP party controls Congress, I don't think anything will touch them.
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Blue Crab

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I hope so but then I hear stories like the DOJ being blindsided by Hutchinsons testimony? How could that be? Maybe that’s bullshit it’s hard to know what to believe, but we need good news on the prosecution front soon. Something else to worry about - is the DOJ going to enter a silent period ahead of the mid terms? They’ve been reticent to prosecute people around national elections in the past.
Scary. The Jan 6 committee is doing great work but I just don't think it's enough. Biden may go down as a pres too ethical to crowd the DOJ ... as the Rs would have done, but go down he will as the bumbling yet principled guy who was humbled by the minority leader. Repeatedly.
 

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What would George Washington say about Jan. 6? He tried to warn us​

As America’s birthday approached during the House select committee’s investigation of the Jan. 6 attack last year on the Capitol, I was reminded of George Washington’s warning about political parties — and why he thought they were a terrible idea.
 

Stingray~

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I think all of the talk about trump accomplices going down and the feeding frenzy as they turn on each other is great and all. Especially if some R house critters go down. But ALL of of this will be completely in vain if shitstain hisself walks. His conviction HAS to be the ultimate end goal - or this entire excercise will have been futile. Because we THE PEOPLE, for the sake of the survival of our democracy, has to drive a stake into the ground that even a POTUS cannot get away with this fuckery, If he walks, then others will most certainly try.
White House Legal Counsel Pat Cippolone, who by the accounts of several witnesses already was raising alarms bells about 'all manners of crimes' being committed, could be the key to taking DJT, Meadows and others down. I hope he makes the right decision, the right calculation for himself too, and that he testifies fully and honestly. Cass H was big but PC would be even bigger!
 

shaggy

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I think the committee set Trumpworld up. The bullshitters tried the distraction and deflection play and ended up taking the Thelma and Louise drive with a carload of MAGA. All they accomplished was bolstering the credibility of the witness who took the oath.
I think so too. It's actually Brilliant if they actually are a step ahead of MAGA.... Call a hearing that is going to get talked about for at least 2 weeks, because the 4th duh... when all those repub/maga, Lib too, families will be getting together to discuss.... Well... Things... LOL Might just change some minds.
 

Sol Rosenberg

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White House Legal Counsel Pat Cippolone, who by the accounts of several witnesses already was raising alarms bells about 'all manners of crimes' being committed, could be the key to taking DJT, Meadows and others down. I hope he makes the right decision, the right calculation for himself too, and that he testifies fully and honestly. Cass H was big but PC would be even bigger!
Kushner even testified about it. He described it as whining from Patsy Baloney.
 

Navig8tor

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Kushner even testified about it. He described it as whining from Patsy Baloney.
Be nice if Pat appears and lists all of the concerns that he was whining about.
Surprised TFG hasn't actually called for the HIT or maybe he has.
Of course Kush was too busy putting his 2 billion dollar deal with the Sauds together while being paid by the US taxpayer, I do hope that Kush does some time like his daddy did.
 

Mrleft8

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Be nice if Pat appears and lists all of the concerns that he was whining about.
Surprised TFG hasn't actually called for the HIT or maybe he has.
Of course Kush was too busy putting his 2 billion dollar deal with the Sauds together while being paid by the US taxpayer, I do hope that Kush does some time like his daddy did.
Jared was doing his job. Well, one of his jobs. Aside from his main job of grifting, and scamming the people, his side job as White House consultant on Middle Eastern Affairs took up a lot of his time. So while he was over there trying to get the Israelis to stop killing Arabs (except Palestinian Arabs), who could blame him for taking a couple of days off to do his real job, while also giving himself accountable deniability for the shit his father in law was doing back home?
(What? Attacking the Congress!? You have to be kidding me!, What? No, I knew nothing about that. I was out of phone range in Africa..... No Asia..... Well.... Maybe I was in Paris, or someplace, but the phone service is so.... You know. You need to call an over seas operator to talk to anyone.... And to find an operator who speaks English, or Russian even is like a half a day of trying to speak to some French person. I didn't even arrive back in the Americas until the next day.... I think.... Jet lag you know.... Do you think I need to shave this week, or can I let it go another few days? )
 

Sol Rosenberg

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That’s one heck of a glare.
I just cannot imagine how hard it would be for anyone with any integrity to work with that crew. Hutchinson is no hero to me. Coming forward to testify about a coup (only after being subpoenaed, btw) doesn’t make her a hero, it makes her a citizen. We should not lower the standard just because someone in the Pride of NY’s crew did what any of us should do if we knew about a plot to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
 

Mrleft8

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I just cannot imagine how hard it would be for anyone with any integrity to work with that crew. Hutchinson is no hero to me. Coming forward to testify about a coup (only after being subpoenaed, btw) doesn’t make her a hero, it makes her a citizen. We should not lower the standard just because someone in the Pride of NY’s crew did what any of us should do if we knew about a plot to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.
True. Doing your job, and doing it well is what you get paid to do. Doing your job, as well as doing someone else's job because they're sick, is doing what needs to be done. Doing your job, and someone else's job because they're lazy assholes is doing what you need to do to keep your job.
Stopping your car on the way home from your job, and running in to a burning building to save 3 little blind children is a hero.
 

Sean

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WaPo gets it right in todays opinion in my view -

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/07/02/donald-trump-criminal-investigation-jan-6/
“After another week of riveting testimony before the House Jan. 6 committee, it is natural to wonder: How many laws were broken, by whom, and will there be prosecutions? Some argue that former president Donald Trump is undoubtedly guilty of serious crimes and must be tried. Others insist that the criminal case against Mr. Trump still is not airtight, and that prosecuting a former president would tear apart the country. What is beyond doubt is that an intensive criminal investigation must proceed.
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The committee heard June 28 from Cassidy Hutchinson, who was a top Trump White House aide. Ms. Hutchinson said that Mr. Trump instructed his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, to talk to conservative provocateur Roger Stone the night before the Capitol attack. Mr. Stone was photographed on Jan. 6 with members of the far-right Oath Keepers organization, multiple members of which were allegedly involved in the assault. She said that she heard mention of the Oath Keepers and the fringe Proud Boys group during the run-up to Jan. 6, when Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani was around.
Ms. Hutchinson also testified that Mr. Meadows sought to attend a Jan. 5 “war room” that included Mr. Giuliani, former Trump aide Stephen K. Bannon and other extremists. She said Mr. Meadows relented after she protested that the White House chief of staff should not be involved, but that he said he would dial in to the meetings.
This testimony underscores questions about precisely what Mr. Trump and his senior staff knew about what would unfold the next day.
Ms. Hutchinson testified that, on Jan. 6 itself, Mr. Trump was told that the crowd that he had assembled was armed. He nevertheless urged the mob to march on the Capitol, fight and show strength — and, according to Ms. Hutchinson and by his own admission, Mr. Trump wanted to accompany them.
The public needs more information. That requires the committee to hear from more witnesses, which in turn requires the Justice Department to prosecute those, such as Mr. Meadows, who have defied committee subpoenas. It also means the department should examine seriously concernsthat Trump allies are trying to influence Jan. 6 committee witnesses.
And, yes, the department should conduct a criminal investigation of Mr. Trump himself. Attorney General Merrick Garland appears to be treating this prospect with a high degree of care, and appropriately so. A new administration prosecuting a former president of the opposite party would set a perilous precedent; one need only look at the long record of failed democracies abroad, in which new leaders tried those they deposed, to see the danger. Prosecuting Mr. Trump also risks helping him politically.


On the other hand, if Mr. Trump is clearly, unquestionably guilty of committing a serious crime — not just arguably so — the department might have little choice. Central to our system of justice is the principle that no one is above the law.
The Justice Department has investigative powers that the Jan. 6 committee does not, and there are critical questions that remain unanswered. Mr. Garland should have no higher priority than using these powers to investigate all of those involved in one of the darkest days in American history.”

 

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