1,900 containers into the Pacific

[Hawaiidart]

To my friends in Hawaii: I've been waiting since August for a new compressor for my (on warranty) GE beverage refrigerator. The part is coming from somewhere on the eastern side of the Pacific.  If you find one in a container that washed up on the beach, it's mine. You can keep the other stuff. 

 

[2flit]

Here is a more detailed account of the current situation  and some details on the accident (over $50,000,000 in Cargo losses, lost 1,800 miles NW of Hawaii).... 

https://splash247.com/insurance-claims-from-one-apus-box-spill-set-to-top-50m/

The comments afterwards are interesting to read.

 

[SloopJonB]

One would think the insurance companies would be getting sick of this shit by now.

From what I understand there are literally thousands of those thing dropped in the ocean every year

What is one container of stuff worth? Even filled with cheap shit it has to be worth serious money.

 

[IStream]

According to that article, it's roughly $25K per box. My guess is ONE's gonna have to find a new insurer...

 

[Foreverslow]

Alle 1,900 contanieres oue cunts, truly fackeng cunts I saye!

annual lost containers is ~1300.

So these quiz kids rolled up 18 months of worldwide loses all by themselves.

Brilliant!

 

[bridhb]

One would think the insurance companies would be getting sick of this shit by now.

From what I understand there are literally thousands of those thing dropped in the ocean every year

What is one container of stuff worth? Even filled with cheap shit it has to be worth serious money.

They just up the premium a couple of $ for each container.

 

[SloopJonB]

They just up the premium a couple of $ for each container.

At $25K average, this latest loss is nearly $50,000,000 - that's a lot of $2 surcharges.

 

[Rum Monkey]

they havent lost 1900 containers over the side. 1900 containers have been affected. ie still on the ship but damaged. yes some will have gone but nowhere near 1900

 

[some dude]

Lots of electronics and large flat-screen TVs, all packed in styrofoam ready for the holiday sales.  Those containers float for ages.

Forever, at least the Styrofoam part.  Right up until its in the piece of salmon you eat. 

 

[Turkey Slapper]

they havent lost 1900 containers over the side. 1900 containers have been affected. ie still on the ship but damaged. yes some will have gone but nowhere near 1900

Finally someone said it! The pic even shows heaps on the deck, 1900 gone and she would be empty!

 

[P_Wop]

Finally someone said it! The pic even shows heaps on the deck, 1900 gone and she would be empty!

She's a 14,000 TEO ship, so 7,000 40-foot boxes.  Figure 2,500 boxes below deck and 4,500 above.  Yes, I can believe a metric shed-load went over the side, perhaps not 1,900, but north of 1,000 anyway..

 

[Meat Wad]

Too bad we can't create a site to site worm hole. Get all these shit show freighters off the water.

 

[Rum Monkey]

Interesting.  I always thought they were auxiliary lashing structures.  Happy to be corrected.

A stack of seven or eight boxes depending only on the structural integrity of the one at the bottom in a rolling seaway might be a recipe for a problem?

top 3to 4 teirs are normally empty  all the heavies down low and getting lighter towards the top. from above photo looks like 7 bays collapsed at 20 boxes wide by up to 8 high. still a shit load left on the decks and defintly way less than 1000 overboard

 

[Rum Monkey]

Finally someone said it! The pic even shows heaps on the deck, 1900 gone and she would be empty!

well we both know something about loading boxes.....

 

[sailman]

But they weren’t lost in the environment, so it ok.

 

[Chris in Santa Cruz CA]

The top fell off

 

[Grrr...]

So what kind of fines do these assholes have to eat?  Nothing, because it is in International waters?  I mean - this should be a fine in the B for BILLION range.

 

[SloopJonB]

Seize the ship until they clean up all the lost containers.

You'd end up with a Suisun Bay pretty quickly.

 

[Zonker]

It is amazing what low value cargo goes into containers. Sure a cargo of flat screen TV's or fancy french wine is expesive - but they also fill containers with bulk goods like dried beans!

They just up the premium a couple of $ for each container.

Exactly. 

So what kind of fines do these assholes have to eat?

Nothing. You're in international waters and it's an accident at sea. Your flag state would be the best bet if such a law existed. 

It does seem that almost all of these incidents are winter, North Pacific - but that probably reflects mostly on where trade is flowing too. Great Circle Route is very far north. Yes most companies probably do some limited weather routing (mostly to save fuel) and captains can certainly download more weather data - but the pressure is always on the captain to do shortest route/least fuel.

 

[Grrr...]

It is amazing what low value cargo goes into containers. Sure a cargo of flat screen TV's or fancy french wine is expesive - but they also fill containers with bulk goods like dried beans!

Exactly. 

Nothing. You're in international waters and it's an accident at sea. Your flag state would be the best bet if such a law existed. 

It does seem that almost all of these incidents are winter, North Pacific - but that probably reflects mostly on where trade is flowing too. Great Circle Route is very far north. Yes most companies probably do some limited weather routing (mostly to save fuel) and captains can certainly download more weather data - but the pressure is always on the captain to do shortest route/least fuel.

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Seems to me this is the kinda of shit that a country could REALLY use - if they went after these companies and convinced the rest of the world that something needed to be done.