10 mill$ poweryacht capsize during launch in Anacortes

[DDW]

How do you know beer wasn't involved?

I still think stabilizers would work well on that vessel, provided both of them were in constant contact with the bottom.

 

[MauiPunter]

Have they launched this model successfully previously? Or was this hull #1?

 

[Bob Perry]

Punter:

I heard that this boat was a stretch of another model. To my eye the entire hull shape below the DWL is funky.

 

[familysailor]

That's another one of those super technical naval architect phrases that you're going to explain, right?

 

[Bob Perry]

Fam:

I'm no big powerboat designer but I have looked them hard since I was a kid. There is nothing about that hull that looks right to my eye. It's midsection is too shallow and too flat, like a barge. The stern sections are just bizarre. Again too flat with no deadrise and an odd turn to the bilge. Funky.

 

[Rasputin22]

FUNKYFORM ™ I've just registered this hullform name inspired by these recent events and the comments of the eminent designer Bob Perry. If Doug Lord can coin phrases and then make them his own in Foiling Anarchy ™ then I can too!

 

[ecsimonson]

So a company big enough to build boats this size has an accident launching one and everyone is fired, company is done?

 

[RKoch]

So a company big enough to build boats this size has an accident launching one and everyone is fired, company is done?

Stick a fork in them.

 

[familysailor]

Stick a "FUNKYFORM ™" fork in them......

Where do I send the royalty check? Do I make it to you, or Bob? It was his definition after all.

 

[Rasputin22]

Bob and I will split it 50/50. Send it to me though... I'll make sure he gets his cut.

 

[Jose Carumba]

Have they launched this model successfully previously? Or was this hull #1?

Yes there was at least one, perhaps more, built from the unstretched mold. The one I know about was fairly successful from what I have heard.

Punter:

I heard that this boat was a stretch of another model. To my eye the entire hull shape below the DWL is funky.

There was a 5 ft midbody stretch done to this boat. There are draft restrictions in many parts of the Carribean which dictate how deep the hull is in many designs. This also leads to tucking the hull up or creating tunnels to provide room for the props. In order to get some volume in the hull there is not much deadrise. The bigger these large yachts get the more shiplike their hulls become. I don't think this hull looks too terrible.

 

[Jose Carumba]

I just looked at some pictures of the hull again an the turn of the bilge does look pretty slack in the after sections and the bow sections are sort of fine so maybe they were going for an easily driven fuel efficient low Cp hull form.

 

[Veeger]

I just looked at some pictures of the hull again an the turn of the bilge does look pretty slack in the after sections and the bow sections are sort of fine so maybe they were going for an easily driven fuel efficient low Cp hull form.

More likely they were just going for an easily expanded mold and it didn't really matter what the previous intent had been. Besides, going longer just 'improved' the beam/length ratio no matter what the shape was. IIRC, this is an 85'er, stretched from an 80'er----so was the 80'er a stretch of something previous??? All told, I suspect that it wasn't the stretching that was the problem but the additional top hamper on this one, compounded by said tophamper being even bigger due to the hull lengthening. (Okay, that was obvious)

What is also obvious is that shortcuts were taken, assumptions were made that bit them in the R-C-cola! It's too easy to believe that with this much effort and moola involved, the basics were still observed. Ah well, not my $$$$ but you know that there are a bunch of folks a bit PO'ed, heartbroken and much poorer. One or two little shortcuts and-- 52 employees unemployed, 1 or more insurance companies squabbling over who will have to take the hit, a business owner out of business and possibly financially ruined personally, an owner, a wife and a young daughter seriously bummed out. That little girl tha christened the boat is likely traumatized at the sudden turn of events.

But, the lawyers ---they'll devour the carcass of anything with a few bucks left on the bone.....!

 

[Jose Carumba]

That mold was not designed to be easily stretched judging from the extent of the fairing compound seen on the unpainted hull in the vid on page 1 of this thread. And the ends haven't much to do with the stretch anyway. Done it before a couple of times.

Tophamper in and of itself on this boat doesn't necessarily mean it will be unstable given enough ballast and proper eeight control although it does contribute. From what I know from talking with people involved with the project a lot of extras were added to the boat and perhaps not accounted for in the weight study.

 

[familysailor]

I just looked at some pictures of the hull again an the turn of the bilge does look pretty slack in the after sections and the bow sections are sort of fine so maybe they were going for an easily driven fuel efficient low Cp hull form.

So ---After reconsidering, "FUNKYFORM ™", yes?

Send the check to Bob, I'm not so sure about the Rasputin dude......

 

[hobot]

Too bad the company has gone under.

The Funkyform 85 has a nice ring to it.

 

[alphafb552]

Too bad the company has gone under.

The Funkyform 85 has a nice ring to it.

I'm sure you could take over the assets including moulds for a song by now, start up Funkyform Yachts...

 

[European Bloke]

I can't help thinking I can see this crap all day long at a launching ramp, but usually beer is involved and tens of dollars of damage are done.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

And most of those people aren't 'modifying something that they sort of got away with last time' as ther basis for what they've just built themselves. Or sometimes they are, but there's another thread for that.

 

[kent_island_sailor]

I can't help thinking I can see this crap all day long at a launching ramp, but usually beer is involved and tens of dollars of damage are done.

I think that pretty much sums it up.

And most of those people aren't 'modifying something that they sort of got away with last time' as ther basis for what they've just built themselves. Or sometimes they are, but there's another thread for that.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

A properly engineered fin stabilizer installation should be strong enough that the shaft of the stabilizer sheers before any catastrophic damage is done to the boat. i don't think dragging it across the concrete ramp with the boat partially afloat would have enough force to sheer the shaft or punch the shaft past its seals. The key words being "properly engineered". Not sure where New Whirled Yachts falls in that regard.

That makes sense, just like daggerboards are supposed to break before damaging the trunk.

... From what I know from talking with people involved with the project a lot of extras were added to the boat and perhaps not accounted for in the weight study.

It sure looked toppleheavy in that video.