Friday (in Montreal, we had -31C/-24F) we were gluing up a rudder in our fairly new construction shop and had the overhead natural gas heater coming on at least 50% of the time to keep temps in the high 60s. I guess on the plus side we did have lots of working time.
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Got a photo yesterday of my 2001 MORC 27 footer “Remedy” with a new coat of paint.
Doesn’t anyone have a different color can of paint?
REMEDY
GP 26 HULLS 7 & 10
WAARSCHIP 1010 "THISTLE"
T4
Doesn’t anyone have a different color can of paint?
REMEDY
GP 26 HULLS 7 & 10
WAARSCHIP 1010 "THISTLE"
T4
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Thanks for posting the pic of Remedy with her new paint job. New owner is a very experienced sailor on many levels from build to the boats he currently races, i.e. she should be in good hands with a fun summer in front of her. Thanks again too for all the 20 pics, it helps shorten winter a bit.
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Remedy is in very good hands; that's a boat designed and built for a very good friend and really happy it's found it's way back to someone who's taking care of her. Looking forward to spending some time back aboard.
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Super Bowl Sunday and out in the shed putting the final layers of carbon on the rudder "pintles"? Not sure exactly what to call these; they are the things on the rudder that attach it to the transom with the rudder pin.
Remember a conversation with Paul Bieker about building these things. His comment was, "You'd be surprised how much torsional load these things see". Added a bunch of double-bias material in the 15 ply stack. Will split the laminate down the middle and glue the two pieces to the rudder head; fair and then cover with a layer of DB over the entire rudder head.
I had shortened the rudder oven for the bulb, and made a modification so it could be used to cure the rudder head. This cardboard box has been a lifesaver.
Remember a conversation with Paul Bieker about building these things. His comment was, "You'd be surprised how much torsional load these things see". Added a bunch of double-bias material in the 15 ply stack. Will split the laminate down the middle and glue the two pieces to the rudder head; fair and then cover with a layer of DB over the entire rudder head.
I had shortened the rudder oven for the bulb, and made a modification so it could be used to cure the rudder head. This cardboard box has been a lifesaver.
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Keel fin to bulb connection is 98% done; added a fillet to the fin where it plugs into the bulb.
It'll be be super easy to fair this perfectly to the bulb after final attachment.
Just a couple spots in the primer that need a tiny amount of filler; will take care of that when I fill the bolt recesses on the bottom of the bulb; just can't do "as is"!
It'll be be super easy to fair this perfectly to the bulb after final attachment.
Just a couple spots in the primer that need a tiny amount of filler; will take care of that when I fill the bolt recesses on the bottom of the bulb; just can't do "as is"!
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Any suggestions re: what color to paint the bulb?
I've got a bunch of Stars and Stripes blue left in the can . . .
Thinking I may go for this cool copper colored VC17; we rolled a coat on the T 10 and it went on on so slick we didn't bother to sand it; sanding would just rough up the surface!
This paint turns black after a while in the water.
I've got a bunch of Stars and Stripes blue left in the can . . .
Thinking I may go for this cool copper colored VC17; we rolled a coat on the T 10 and it went on on so slick we didn't bother to sand it; sanding would just rough up the surface!
This paint turns black after a while in the water.
Sail4beer
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Those are some nice carbon gudgeons. The pintles are the pin shaped things on the rudder that slip into the gudgeons. You may be doing a pintle rod and locking pin with gudgeons on a carbon rudder as well.
By the way, they look well made, just like all the rest, great build.
By the way, they look well made, just like all the rest, great build.
Sail4beer
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My Fareast28R had a carbon fiber rudder with really thick stainless gudgeons through bolted. I couldn’t understand why all the weight would be bolted on and not laminated in with carbon instead. Price point I guess.
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Cut the laminate in half, sanded a few millimeters shy of final and checked the fit.
There's a single pin that fits through the boat and rudder that I'll use to align these fittings on the rudder. Under the laminate is a G10 tube with a plain bronze bushing. And, "Yes", that's probably twice as much carbon as needed; I don't like rudder problems so I stuck on as much carbon as will fit - the extra weight is negligible.
Before laminating these parts, I packed out the rudder with some plastic sheet to give about a 1mm gap for the adhesive. If you don't provide a space for the adhesive, it'll all squeeze out when you try and glue them on. The result is no adhesive = no bond.
Will use Proset 176/276 super-toughened which is perfect for this application.
There's a single pin that fits through the boat and rudder that I'll use to align these fittings on the rudder. Under the laminate is a G10 tube with a plain bronze bushing. And, "Yes", that's probably twice as much carbon as needed; I don't like rudder problems so I stuck on as much carbon as will fit - the extra weight is negligible.
Before laminating these parts, I packed out the rudder with some plastic sheet to give about a 1mm gap for the adhesive. If you don't provide a space for the adhesive, it'll all squeeze out when you try and glue them on. The result is no adhesive = no bond.
Will use Proset 176/276 super-toughened which is perfect for this application.
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Sail4beer
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I’m down at my boat to take advantage of the 60 we’re getting today. Snow coming at the end of the week to stop my progress. The rudder is coming right along up there!
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Readers with good memories will probably do a double take after seeing this category's winner, the Ultimate 20. Yes, there was a boat called the Ultimate 20 in last year's contest, too. But after presenting their prototype for last year's judging, the creators at Ultimate Sailboats International went back to the drawing board and produced a complete overhaul- a new boat by the same name.
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Naval architect Jim Antrim consulted on the make over. Eventually the hull was lengthened about 9 inches in the stern, the bow knuckle was softened slightly and the freeboard increased. The keel was redesigned and the rig enlarged.
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Naval architect Jim Antrim consulted on the make over. Eventually the hull was lengthened about 9 inches in the stern, the bow knuckle was softened slightly and the freeboard increased. The keel was redesigned and the rig enlarged.
WCB
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I think that you're in the wrong thread
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ryley
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wait, was that some shade that the 20 we're reading about isn't advanced or interesting? have you *read* this thread??
PurpleOnion
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You have that backwards (or I wrote it backwards). The 20 in this thread is the advanced and interesting one. I was apologizing for putting content about the U20 into this thread.wait, was that some shade that the 20 we're reading about isn't advanced or interesting? have you *read* this thread??
