2013-14 18 Footer racing 2013 2014 current Season 2013-14

[GybeSet]

all of the above, a lower hounds (+prod support) stabilises a tall-ish skinny stick (whilst latest Jib luff-lengths are growing beyond what was previously considered normal)

plus it allows maximising the chord (?breadth) & Area of the heady whilst maintaining a slot that exhausts which is faster(imo) /more criticial on a boat that's doing serious speed upwind

Mast height restriction means they will look for any extra area anywhere in the plan ( e.g. the clew plates extending jib beyond the self-tacking track)

exhausting slot = speed (imo)

 

[couchsurfer]

......so a simple answer would be(?)....

...........no ,,there's never been more than a ______ boat fleet for the Gilt's,,or any -18'er- event

............it seems like the class has -gotten over- the 'decimation'......why not yewww??? :mellow:

The average sponsorship for the double bay fleet is aroun $20k so we could say the average sponsorship is back to mid 1970's level, there are usually only a couple of genuine contenders the others talk themselves up.

When classes change the rules it is usually to make them faster, the 18 class has imposed rules twice to make the boats slower and easier which goes against all the history and traditions of the class.

Back in 1987 i thought i should take my camera down and get someone to take photos,i said to myself look how far they have come in the last 10-20 years, what will they be like in another 20 years and didnt bother with it.

They dont sail in anything over 30 knots of wind today,the best rides are on windy days.

When you restrict mast height you will end up with them cramming sail area in wherever they can because area is not measured, would they have still come up with the same sail shapes if mast height was not restricted?

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....sorry 'GybeHO' t'mess up the 'current season' thread some more,,,

.................but it is on the topic of today's eideens at least!.......

...'Mo',,,,those 80's boats were beautiful,,amazing aerospace technology for the time,,but incredibly expensive and -totally- unsustainable---I'm glad you savor the memories and got some pictures!!

.....the progression back to -today's eideens- is-what-it-is,,,,a pragmatic reign-in on an out of control,,unsustainable situation.......with a common hull,,,the development continues in a micro-manner --some very interesting and relevant details come up,,,,,,,,with record-size fleets and world-wide activity growing as a result

...it -really- is time to appreciate -EVOLUTION-

 

[GybeSet]

So whats the crack with the forestay prod then? Getting some square top - ness onto the Jib without losing luff length or having hounds unacceptably high?

I reckon (no basis) that there will still be a sh*t load of forestay tension downwind, and you don't have to deflect that tension much to be pushing a decent load back into the mast which would affect the mode shape.

Dan

i suspect its to minimise the span of the luff wire as much as practical without closing off the gap between the mast and jib top. How much poke is used will increaase the moment that straightens the mast at the hounds.

all of the above, a lower hounds (+prod support) stabilises a tall-ish skinny stick (whilst latest Jib luff-lengths are growing beyond what was previously considered normal)

plus it allows maximising the chord (?breadth) & Area of the heady whilst maintaining a slot that exhausts which is faster(imo) /more criticial on a boat that's doing serious speed upwind

Mast height restriction means they will look for any extra area anywhere in the plan ( e.g. the clew plates extending jib beyond the self-tacking track)

exhausting slot = speed (imo)

 

[GybeSet]

Sundays race 2 of the Aussies

Go the Rag !

img: Michael Chittenden

Australian Championship-Race2 Club Championship-Race4 Cordukes Clubhouse Trophy

Sydney Harbour: 19-Jan-2014
18ft Skiffs

Australian Championship, Race 2

Sunday, 19 January 2014

Sydney Harbour

The Gotta Love It 7 crew of Seve Jarvin, Sam Newton and Scott Babbage gave a brilliant exhibition in the 14-16-knot South East wind to dominate Race 2 of the Australian 18ft Skiff Championship on Sydney Harbour today.

The defending champion team grabbed the lead soon after the start and were relentless as they powered away from the fleet throughout the race.

After more than one hour sailing, Gotta Love It 7 crossed the finish line 2m32s ahead of Thurlow Fisher Lawers (Michael Coxon, Dave O’Connor, Trent Barnabas).

Smeg (Nick Press, Dan Phillips and Dave Ewings) was 34s further back in third place, followed by Coopers 62-Rag & Famish Hotel (Jack Macartney), Appliancesonline.com au (Micah Lane) and Sydney City Marine (Dave Witt).

Consistency over the two races sailed so far gives Thurlow Fisher Lawyers (5 points) a two points lead over Gotta Love It 7 on 7 points.

Race 1 winner Asko Appliances (Marcus Ashley-Jones) is third on 8, Smeg on 8, Lumix (Jonathan Whitty) on 11 and Coopers 62-Rag & Famish on 11.

An even start in Taylor Bay saw Sydney City Marine and Thurlow Fisher Lawyers grab prominent positions on long starboard tacks.

Gotta Love It 7 tacked early, and along with Thurlow Fisher Lawyers and Coopers 62-Rag & Famish Hotel took the western side of Shark Island.

The move was a winner as Gotta Love It 7 held a 15s lead over Thurlow Fisher Lawyers at the windward mark in Rose Bay.

Grant Rollerson’s Fisher & Paykel was third, followed by Appliancesonline, Coopers-Rag & Famish, Smeg, Sydney City Marine, Asko Appliances, Pure Blonde (Nick Daly), Mojo Wine and Yandoo (John Winning).

The following spinnaker run to Robertson Point, then the windward beat back across the harbour to Clarke Island told the tale of the race as Gotta Love It 7 opened up a race winning lead

While the likely winner was evident to the large spectator fleet, the battle behind the flying red machine was tremendous as only a few secs. separated five evenly matched skiffs.

Positions amongst these skiffs continually fluctuated before Thurlow Fisher Lawyers finally overcame the challenge from Smeg to take second place.

Coopers 62-Rag & Famish Hotel came home strongly to finish just 5s behind Smeg.

The fleet reveled in the steady breeze and gave spectators plenty of excitement with some spectacular spinnaker action.

With three more races to come (over the next three Sundays) the scene is set for a close finish to the championship.

Video coverage of the race can be seen on www.18footerstv.com.

http://new.livestream.com/lsa/events/2675886/videos/39987897

View the latest race each week - every race filmed from start to finish plus a 3 minute round up

Register for the archive of the last 2 seasons (older races being updated)
Enter pick the podium and win TVs, sunnies, yachting gear and much more

Race 3 of the Australian Championship will be sailed next Sunday.
Unfortunately, there will be NO SPECTATOR FERRY due to unavailability on Australia Day.

 

[GybeSet]

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18footersTV.com

great win from behind

who picked the podium?

prizes are ramping up especially during the JJ G championship

 

[AlexP]

Are summary vids no longer being uploaded to 18FootersTV YouTube anymore? Haven't seen one come out for awhile now

 

[GybeSet]

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as it's gone 'live' the whole day is on one vid

 

[GybeSet]

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get your 'Pick the Podium" in for tomorrow http://18footerstv.com/pick-the-podium or come down and catch the ferry.

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At least 9 European entries so far for this 2014 championship ! add to this NZ, US, Brisbane, US & Perth and entries are peaking OVER 30 skiffs

[SIZE=12pt]2014 JJ GILTINAN 18ft SKIFF CHAMPIONSHIP[/SIZE]

There is now just four weeks to the 2014 JJ Giltinan 18ft Skiff Championship, which celebrates the 75 years history of the world’s greatest 18 Footer event, since the first regatta on Sydney Harbour in 1938.

The historical significance has not been lost on organizers, who are anxious to include as many past winners as possible at the 2014 series from 1-9 March.

Over the next four weeks we will not only preview the 2014 regatta, but also take a look at some of the people and history contributing to the success of this great championship.

World famous designers such as Ben Lexcen, Bruce Farr, Iain Murray and Julian Bethwaite have all been successful as winners of the Giltinan Championship while the list of competitors covers every level of world success in numerous classes.

The Past Winners list shows:

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1938 Taree Bert Swinbourne Aust

1939 Manu Geo. Chamberlain NZ

1948 Crows Nest Bill Hayward Aust

1949 Marjorie Too Tony Russell Aust

1950 Komutu Jack Logan NZ

1951 Myra Too Bill Barnett Aust

1952 Intrigue Peter Mander NZ

1954 Intrigue Peter Mander NZ

1956 Jenny VI Norm Wright Aust

1958 Jantzen Girl Len Heffernan Aust

1960 Surprise Bern Skinner NZ

1961 Venom Ben Lexcen Aust

1963 Schemer Ken Beashel Aust

1964 Toogara Cliff Monkhouse Aust

1965 Travelodge Bob Holmes Aust

1966 Travelodge Bob Holmes Aust

1967 Associated Motor Club Don Barnett Aust

1968 Daily Telegraph Ken Beashel Aust

1969 Travelodge Bob Holmes Aust

1970 Thomas Cameron Hugh Treharne Aust

1971 Travelodge Bob Holmes Aust

1972 Smirnoff Don Lidgard NZ

1973 Travelodge Bob Holmes Aust

1974 Travelodge New Zealand Terry Mc Dell NZ

1975 KB Dave Porter Aust

1976 Miles Furniture Stephen Kulmar Aust

1977 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1978 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1979 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1980 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1981 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1982 Color 7 Iain Murray Aust

1983 Tia Maria Peter Sorensen Aust

1984 Tia Maria Peter Sorensen Aust

1985 Bradmill Robert Brown Aust

1986 Entrad Robert Brown Aust

1987 Chesty Bond Trevor Barnabas Aust

1988 **Chesty Bond Trevor Barnabas Aust

**Southern Cross Robert Brown Aust

1989 Prudential Michael Walsh Aust

1990 Bank of New Zealand Scott Ramsden Aust

1991 AAMI Julian Bethwaite Aust

1992 AAMI Julian Bethwaite Aust

1993 Winfield Racing Michael Spies Aust

1994 Nokia Neil Cashman Aust

1995 Winfield Racing Michael Spies Aust

1996 AEI-Pace Express Stephen Quigley Aust

1997 Omega Smeg-2UE Trevor Barnabas Aust

1997 Smeg Trevor Barnabas Aust

1998 Omega Smeg-2UE Trevor Barnabas Aust

1999 Rockport Tim Robinson UK

2000 AMP Centrepoint John Winning Aust

2001 Rag & Famish Hotel John Harris Aust

2002 GE-US Challenge Howie Hamlin USA

2003 GE-US Challenge Howie Hamlin USA

2004 RMW Marine Rob Greenhalgh UK

2005 Club Marine Euan Mc Nicol Aust

2006 Casio Seapathfinder Michael Coxon Aust

2007 Fiat Michael Coxon Aust

2008 Gotta Love It 7 Seve Jarvin Aust

2009 Southern Cross Constructions Euan Mc Nicol Aust

2010 Gotta Love It 7 Seve Jarvin Aust

2011 Gotta Love It 7 Seve Jarvin Aust

2012 Gotta Love It 7 Seve Jarvin Aust

2013 Gotta Love It 7 Seve Jarvin Aust

** Denotes Joint Champions

The Australian 18 Footers League are expecting large crowds, particularly on the two Sundays, and have arranged for additional spectator ferries if necessary.

Live video streaming, GPS tracking and social media, as well as the support we get from the sailing media/websites around the world will make the event highly visible to all who want to keep up to date throughout the entire championship.

Frank Quealey

Australian 18 Footers League

www.18footers.com.au

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[GybeSet]

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http://18footerstv.com

the classic strong NE'er on a brilliant sunny day on the legend No.1 course,

doesn't get any better viewing than this

add to that a maximum runout tide for plenty of 'air'

End of vid has Seve commenting on the scene and reefed mains i.e the '3rd rig' which took out the placings today

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great hi-res stils from the 18foot Mediawall

 

[GybeSet]

.presser re the JJs

Syd Fischer and Sydney City Marine, sponsors of David Witts 18 footer, tip in for the JJ Gilts coming up soon

http://18skiff.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/18ft-skiffs-support-from-sydney-city.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[coolerboy]

How come videos don't go on YouTube anymore? Can't use chromecast to watch on your tv.

 

[couchsurfer]

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...yeh coverage is a bit 'different' now...

..........I think I prefer the good-ole-days,,when they edited out the long travel sessions :mellow:

...the racing seems to have gotten a fair bit tighter this season,,boats are going a lot closer to the same speed up and down,,,,,,7 broke free at the weather mark,,actually got reeled in somewhat,,still has 'company' on the third beat

...I predict there's going to be quite a 'ding-dong' battle in the Giltmans,,especially when th'sheep-herders arrive,,

,,sounds like the spar-maker's got something going

 

[Headntac]

Dont mean to be pedantic,DWitt was how old in 1999 ?

 

[GybeSet]

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The JJs coming soon

scroll down after the pics for details of the Kiwi challenge, I think they've won all the international (outside of aus) regattas before this downunder season started , i.e SF, AKL, Mark Foy & so on

http://18skiff.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/18ft-skiffs-2014-jj-giltinan-18ft-skiff.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

also there are 9-10 boats coming from Europe for this 75th Anniversay JJ Gilt regatta,

last count 34 entries all up

 

[GybeSet]

5 days till the JJ G

crazy day, favorites fleet boat smashed the race

http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/174738/18ft-Skiff-NSW-Championship-race-5

 

[GybeSet]

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Kenwood Rabbitohs takes out the sunday Club event (incl. final State Title heat) preceding the JJ Giltinan Champs which starts on Friday

Brett and crew picked out an awesome first beat 'going right' on the


to lead at the first mark
18footersTV.com vids

http://www.18footers.com.au/racing-results-2013-2014/nsw-championship-race-5-club-championship-race-9

https://www.facebook.com/18skiff

https://www.facebook.com/Australian18Footers

 

[GybeSet]

Next Week is the big one, The 2014 JJ Giltinan 18ft Skiff Championship

Races Dates
Friday February 28, 2014
Invitation Race (no spectator ferry)
Saturday March 1, 2014 Race 1 ***

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Sunday March 2, 2014 Race 2

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Tuesday March 4, 2014 Race 3

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Wednesday March 5, 2014 Race 4

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Thursday March 6, 2014 Race 5

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Saturday March 8, 2014 Race 6

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Sunday March 9, 2014 Race 7

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*** Race 1 will also be sailed for the George Calligeros Trophy
Races start at 3 pm, with the exception of Races 1 and 6 (March 1st and 8th), which will start at 4 pm. (i.e the Saturdays)

Spectator Ferry
The Australian 18 Footers League’s spectator ferry will follow each of the seven championship races, leaving Double Bay Wharf 30 minutes prior to the scheduled start time of the race.

 

[cosmicsedso]

Its really looking good for an excellent JJ!

Livestream coverage should be a huge improvement.

I haven't heard squat about SA's involvement other than Killos comments. What's the word Clean?

What's the weather going to do?

So many questions...

All answerable over the next week without leaving your desk.

Ah the good old days... Not!

My prediction after the Invitation race and the weather forecasts.

 

[Mel]

Yep definitely excited to be involved with a few of the teams! I will be heading out and watching a few of the days on the Ferry to support friends and those I sponsor. I can't wait to see what this weird weather is going to do! It will certainly make it interesting as there a few teams that seem to favour certain rigs at the moment.

 

[GybeSet]

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