2018 Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race: The Race Committee has lodged a protest against Wild Oats XI

jack_sparrow

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If Matt Allen as President of AS has any balls he should put Harburg/Bradford and Oatley/Richards in a room and read them the riot act. Harburg for not protesting but having a cry on national TV and Oatley for doing what ever they fuckin did to make this shitfight appear in peoples loungerooms.

I betcha he doesn't as that Oatley trough of money that Australia Sailing's snout is in, is way too big to put at risk.  

 
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TCWippy

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Disgusted that at the “highest” level of our sport, that a “shall” rule can (seemingly) be completely ignored without reprocussion.  Does anyone else wonder if WOIx would have made their “winning maneuver” going outside Comanche if they didn’t have the AIS info on the Indian when she parked up?  What a sad statement on an otherwise amazing race, and for most of us,, an amazing Corinthian sport. How do we, as experienced yachtsmen, explain to folks outside our under appreciated/ missunderstood sport that a simple “shall” rule can be ignored.  Very sad and makes a joke of our sport, imho.  SAD!

 

hiphip

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Have a look at RRS 61 and se how anyone else can protest at this time.
So if a boat finds out at the finished that some boats turned off their ais. Could that boat protest all those boats.  

 
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Philc

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The official outcome of the protest against Wild Oats XI
Following a protest against Wild Oats XI by the Race Committee of the Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race, which was held by the International Jury at Royal Yacht Club of Tasmania today, it was found that the protest was invalid and so Wild Oats XI retains her line honours crown.

 

Conclusions:

  1. The Race Committee’s investigation and subsequent protest arose from the report from the owner of Black Jack, a competitor in the Race and therefore a person with a conflict of interest within the meaning of the Racing Rules of Sailing (RRS).



  1. The Race Committee’s investigation was prudent, however in these circumstances, for the protest to be valid under the Racing Rules of Sailing, a competitor with information about a potential rule breach must lodge the protest.



Rules that apply: RRS60.2 (a), Definitions – Conflict of Interest.

Decision:  Protest Invalid.
 

Rain Man

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Disgusted that at the “highest” level of our sport, that a “shall” rule can (seemingly) be completely ignored without reprocussion.  Does anyone else wonder if WOIx would have made their “winning maneuver” going outside Comanche if they didn’t have the AIS info on the Indian when she parked up?  What a sad statement on an otherwise amazing race, and for most of us,, an amazing Corinthian sport. How do we, as experienced yachtsmen, explain to folks outside our under appreciated/ missunderstood sport that a simple “shall” rule can be ignored.  Very sad and makes a joke of our sport, imho.  SAD!
There is no evidence that it was "completely ignored"  The equipment was on the boat and worked prior to the start and after the finish.  The suggestion that it was deliberately turned off during the race is something that you read here on SA, not something that has been stated by anyone on the boat.  We don't get to find out the facts of the case because the protest was ruled invalid.  

Sailing will be just fine, don't worry.   Almost everyone will have forgotten about this by tomorrow night, sooner if Trump tweets something stupid in the next hour or two.

 
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Kermit

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Disgusted that at the “highest” level of our sport, that a “shall” rule can (seemingly) be completely ignored without reprocussion.  Does anyone else wonder if WOIx would have made their “winning maneuver” going outside Comanche if they didn’t have the AIS info on the Indian when she parked up?  What a sad statement on an otherwise amazing race, and for most of us,, an amazing Corinthian sport. How do we, as experienced yachtsmen, explain to folks outside our under appreciated/ missunderstood sport that a simple “shall” rule can be ignored.  Very sad and makes a joke of our sport, imho.  SAD!
Maybe u could explain there are rules about protests too. All rules should be adhered to. 

 

Liquid Assett NZ

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Disgusted that at the “highest” level of our sport, that a “shall” rule can (seemingly) be completely ignored without reprocussion.  Does anyone else wonder if WOIx would have made their “winning maneuver” going outside Comanche if they didn’t have the AIS info on the Indian when she parked up?  What a sad statement on an otherwise amazing race, and for most of us,, an amazing Corinthian sport. How do we, as experienced yachtsmen, explain to folks outside our under appreciated/ missunderstood sport that a simple “shall” rule can be ignored.  Very sad and makes a joke of our sport, imho.  SAD!
I think you need to relax a bit

The protest was invalid that was by the book. If a competitor had an issue they could have protested like Comanche did last year really simple If Oats said it was on we need to take that at face value.

There will be no public execution tonight I understand that's what you all want yo see

 

Just A Skosh

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Fuck Mark Richards for cheating and then having the balls not to come clean about it.

Fuck Black Jack for not having the balls to protest themselves.

Now there's no closure.

 

Se7en

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Conclusions:
  1. The Race Committee’s investigation and subsequent protest arose from the report from the owner of Black Jack, a competitor in the Race and therefore a person with a conflict of interest within the meaning of the Racing Rules of Sailing



Decision:  Protest Invalid.
So no one on the race committee checked AIS for the duration of the race and noticed that WO 11 was not transmitting?

And not one of the 80 competitors has the balls to protest an infringement of the SIs.

Good result, the best justice that money can buy.

 

HILLY

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Mark Richards in the interview says that it was a gruelling race, 2 days with no sleep..

If he sticks around in Hobart long enough maybe he could buy the guys of Gun Runnner a few beers, and find out what gruelling really is....

 

jack_sparrow

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EddyAllTime said:
What actual evidence didr any of you fucktards have that WOXI cheated?
Eddy let me guess you can be arse fucked with house brick under the cover of darkness, but you won't complain until a Judge concurs with you?

 

inebriated

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Mark Richards in the interview says that it was a gruelling race, 2 days with no sleep..

If he sticks around in Hobart long enough maybe he could buy the guys of Gun Runnner a few beers, and find out what gruelling really is....
how was your sydney to hobart???

willing to bet that the crew on gun runner had sleep during the race, and that they weren't pushing nearly as hard.

a hard race for all, yes

MR didn't say anywhere tat his race was harder than anyone elses

chill out dude

 

Just A Skosh

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EddyAllTime said:
What actual evidence didr any of you fucktards have that WOXI cheated?

Screenshots of AIS with/without WOXI for the duration of the race?

Front up with the actual evidence or sit down and shut up. 


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