2018 Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race: The Race Committee has lodged a protest against Wild Oats XI

mad

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WARNING

I’m sleep deprived and fucked. Following a lousy day race on line has killed me more than a VG or god forbid a real RTW one.

If you have some smart fuck reply without some degree of intelligence (not much required) to this post be warned. I will send @mad and my ex mother in law around to your place to tear your bloody arms off. The  latter is good at it. I can only now type using my nose and in upper case using my dick.

As every good story needs a Prelude, this is mine.

PRELUDE

I have no one to thank. I do apologise however to those who are thinking “why hasn’t the Sparrow given me a Likey today. I ran out because it seems there is some limit here on SA after Randumb gave me 567 dislikes in 30 minutes and the ED noticed something was amiss.

So to those two posts above which has sent my nose going mad. Chopper a useless fool at best and Glenn who has forgotten more about RRS than most here know except @shanghaisailor,  graciously replies to the fool? What is that I say to myself, Glenn stops there like a pregnant lady caught crossing the street and no more?

THE STORY

Glenn you lazy sod there is one mechanism available, much as I think it is an abhorrent rule in its current form.

In this case we have here a Protest by the RC that has been determined by the IJ to be invalid so normally end of story.

However if any competitor or non-competitors alike were of the view the PC/IJ were not provided with a true statement of fact by the Protester, in this case the RC, and used by and as published by the PC/IJ to principally support their decision to deem the Protest invalid, then that decision is potentially open to being overruled under Rule 69 on the basis the facts presented by the Protester, in this case by a RC and having far wider implications than a sole protester, so bringing the sport into disrepute under Rule 69.

It may sound like a long bow to draw but if any aspect of those facts presented by the RC to the PC/IJ are shown to be factually incorrect and they are instrumental to the decision made by the PC/IJ, then it is game on. To avoid any misunderstanding and state the obvious this prospect of a Rule 69 Protest by a third party has nothing to do with WOXI infringing or not. It is directed solely at the RC and the facts they presented to the PC/IJ. The aguement is because of this the PC/IJ had no option but to rule the RC's own Protest invalid, thus prventing the nature of the Protest being properly examined and determined. 

I would not mention this aspect unless I believed it applied here and in particular these statements of fact as  presented by the RC and read in conjunction. They are:

Facts Found: Facts on Validity

1. Black Jack and Wild Oats Xl both competed in the Rolex Sydney Hobart Yacht Race 2018 (the Race).

2. Shortly after finishing, the owner of Black Jack submitted a report to the Race Committee alleging that Wild Oats Xl's AIS "had not transmitted throughout" the Race.

3. Prior to the report, the Race Committee had "no knowledge of an issue" with Wild Oats Xl's AIS.

4. As a result of receiving the report, the Race Committee conducted an investigation into AIS tracking records in respect of Wild Oats Xl. The Race Committee obtained evidence from its own investigation that Wild Oats Xl may have breached Sl 11.4 and therefore submitted the protest.

Diagram: Not Applicable.

http://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/media/3438889/ccf29122018.pdf

Put simply #3 (my bold emphasis) is horseshit unless the RC were hiding under a rock while the RO's own media people were launching off the boat interviews into the Interweb and national TV stations were all falling over them selves to keep up with live crosses. This is where BJ's complaint came to light, not some report lodged with the RC hours later.

Now Glen I have a very big question of you. But before asking it I note you and I have very similar views and we both clearly don’t have a dog in the fight as indicated by our respective posts below, albeit in your case you were disadvantaged by not having full information to hand making yours thinking a competitor protest was afoot, due to time zone delay in the USA  3rd world.

QUESTION FOR GLENN

Mate do you reakon a Rule 69 Protest by a third-party as outlined above are "time barred" under RRS, noting boats are still out there on the course into tomorrow? Don't confuse this request with one of Protest prospects, but do note there are many crazy fuckers online with funny names with more money than God and may have some New Year save sailing resolution going..

Don't chicken out on me now Glenn.
How did I get dragged into this one?  :lol:

 

ateam

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In my opinion round gotland is a very well managed offshore race....and there the rc checks ais signals...and does not let u start if u do not transmit....

 

random

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I have just seen some Press Releases distributed earlier today post ruling by the WOXI camp to assist the media, both sailing and mainstream write stuff. It is like one is reading Hitlers PR after conquering Poland.
And there is work going on here too.  Controlling the message on social media including forums.

Sticks our like dogballs.

 

random

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WARNING

I’m sleep deprived and fucked. Following a lousy day race on line has killed me more than a VG or god forbid a real RTW one.

If you have some smart fuck reply without some degree of intelligence (not much required) to this post be warned. I will send @mad and my ex mother in law around to your place to tear your bloody arms off. The  latter is good at it. I can only now type using my nose and in upper case using my dick.

As every good story needs a Prelude, this is mine.

PRELUDE

I have no one to thank. I do apologise however to those who are thinking “why hasn’t the Sparrow given me a Likey today. I ran out because it seems there is some limit here on SA after Randumb gave me 567 dislikes in 30 minutes and the ED noticed something was amiss.

@shanghaisailor


For the record the downvotes were the other way around.  After three VOR sycophants downvoted me hundreds in one evening, the ed changed the limit from 200 a day to 20. . 

Stop complaining about WOXI when you lie yourself.

 
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random

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Really???!!!!

Fucking awesome, Random has a conspiracy theory running! :p

Fuck I love this place.  :lol:
Check out their origin and posting record.

That's what those socks do.  Do you seriously believe that WO spend money on producing guides for the media and not guiding social media?  They have brands to protect.  But hang on, that shit only happens to hijack an entire election, would never happen anywhere else right?  Not on forums you use!

Better check what century you are in.

 
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mad

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I just want to know what you're doing with his ex-MIL.  
It’s long story........started something like this. 

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.
Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can.

 
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I love this place but I'm the only one that signs up as an armchairadmiral !!! Most of you should  borrow it and just add a number.   The way some of you portray this as cheating is rubbish. The race outcome wasn't decided by an AIS being on or off....Protests are not generally about cheating but rule infringements. Usually these aren't deliberate but then you'd have to go sailing to know that so BJ 's decision not to protest is  OK. Clearly he didn't think it was cheating and neither did any other competitor because no one protested. Methinks this is more about MR and his high / off handed comments. That's not grounds for a backdoor protest. Seems the guy could go a PR lesson or two but that's it. And WO should have had its AIS on.

 

jack_sparrow

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The race outcome wasn't decided by an AIS being on or off....Protests are not generally about cheating but rule infringements..
Yes everyone with a double digit IQ knows that the RC's protest was deemed invalid (that the RC knew perfectly well when they lodged it).....the next bit by extension saying cheating is not a rule infringement may require more explanation on your behalf.  

 

Cal20sailor

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Yes everyone with a double digit IQ knows that the RC's protest was deemed invalid (that the RC knew perfectly well when they lodged it).....the next bit by extension saying cheating is not a rule infringement may require more explanation on your behalf.  
What about those of us with three digits?  Do we not know, I thought I did and now you're telling me I don't count.  Not nice.  

 




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