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terrafirma

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We do not know the story here with this Botin 80 (ex-Cabron), but we gotta say we love the colors and are truly hoping this is a representation for the LGBTQ community. Perhaps we are wrong with our assumption about that, and we don’t know how many actually race, but in this right-wing-dominated sport, our guess is that most stay in the closet for fear of whatever nasty and mean-spirited horseshit the right likes to use to marginalize members of this community.Here at SA, we fully support our LGBTQ brothers and sisters.

I'm surprised the ED didn't know this is Wharro's boat for Hobart.? 

 
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pulpit

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terrafirma said:
From the Front Page 

We do not know the story here with this Botin 80 (ex-Cabron), but we gotta say we love the colors and are truly hoping this is a representation for the LGBTQ community. Perhaps we are wrong with our assumption about that, and we don’t know how many actually race, but in this right-wing-dominated sport, our guess is that most stay in the closet for fear of whatever nasty and mean-spirited horseshit the right likes to use to marginalize members of this community.Here at SA, we fully support our LGBTQ brothers and sisters.

I'm surprised the ED didn't know this is Wharro's boat for Hobart.? 
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The reason that Wharro has got Stefan involved is it is part of the Bill Barry Cotter - Maritimo - ex owner Riviera power boat builder and Steven (Stefan) Ackerie's - Stefans Hair Dressings pissing contest. 

Bill and Stefan are great mates and both are ex Australian Offshore Power Boat Champions and wear  Bill goes Stefan is hanging around when it comes to boats. The colours on the boat are Stefans corporate logo and has been for years. I'm very surprised that the boat isn't all Pink as Stefans offshore boats have been all Pink in the past.

Good on Wharro for finding a good Australian sponsor.

Pulpit

 
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pulpit said:
The reason that Wharro has got Stefan involved is it is part of the Bill Barry Cotter - Maritimo - ex owner Riviera power boat builder and Steven (Stefan) Ackerie's - Stefans Hair Dressings pissing contest. 

Bill and Stefan are great mates and both are ex Australian Offshore Power Boat Champions and wear  Bill goes Stefan is hanging around when it comes to boats. The colours on the boat are Stefans corporate logo and has been for years. I'm very surprised that the boat isn't all Pink as Stefans offshore boats have been all Pink in the past.

Good on Wharro for finding a good Australian sponsor.

Pulpit
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Interested to know what they have and haven't done to the ex Beau Geste.? For whatever reason these boat transplants never seem to be as successful as a new boat. In this case Beau Geste transplanted the deck and or rig to a new Botin hull from their Farr 80.? Scallywag is a transplant too and she doesn't seem to be travelling as well as the other maxis. Looked like SW had the wrong sails up for the start of the Cabbage Tree, they were being blown away by Whisper at the start. 

 
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terrafirma said:
Interested to know what they have and haven't done to the ex Beau Geste.? For whatever reason these boat transplants never seem to be as successful as a new boat. In this case Beau Geste transplanted the deck and or rig to a new Botin hull from their Farr 80.? Scallywag is a transplant too and she doesn't seem to be travelling as well as the other maxis. Looked like SW had the wrong sails up for the start of the Cabbage Tree, they were being blown away by Whisper at the start. 
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IIRC

BG only the rig & motor retained. Basically a new boat with some donor parts. 

SW had a new hull under the old deck. Don’t know how much of the rest of it is still original. 

 
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Scallywag the fastest rating 100 and the slowest at the same time.! What gives..? 





 


 


Sail No.


Name


Skipper


Club


Handicap






Maxi DivisionStart: 10:00




1


 


525100


Black Jack


Peter Harburg


YCM


1.9480




2


 


SYD1000


LawConnect


Christian Beck


CYCA


1.9800




3


 


HKG2276


Scallywag 100


David Witt


RHKYC


1.9880




 
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terrafirma said:
Scallywag the fastest rating 100 and the slowest at the same time.! What gives..? 





 


 


Sail No.


Name


Skipper


Club


Handicap






Maxi DivisionStart: 10:00




1


 


525100


Black Jack


Peter Harburg


YCM


1.9480




2


 


SYD1000


LawConnect


Christian Beck


CYCA


1.9800




3


 


HKG2276


Scallywag 100


David Witt


RHKYC


1.9880
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Gorn FRANTIC!! said:
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Gorn,

I don't  think that Scallywag is a dog or a pig for that matter. After all Andy Dovell is a good designer with heaps of Americas  cup and other design experience. So the boat should perform  

I think the rating shows some of the problems with the boat. The boat is taking too many hits on the rating for too little gains and I think that the boat seems overpowered at times and maybe sailed wrong for the Hobart. Big sails are not always fast and can slow you down if not set up right or you sail the boat wrong. 

David Witt is a good skiff sailor and knew how to set up a skiff and had a great crew in the 18's. The trouble is when it comes to the big boats and the big budgets other owners are spending to get the best in the world to sail them Scallywag just isn't there. After all look at the last Volvo Race that the Scallywag crew sailed. OD boats and sails and 7 boat. Scallywag scored   5-6-5-1-2-Retired-6-7-7-7-6

Maybe it's  time his owner looked at getting a new boat captain / skipper with some new ideas on how to set up the boat ?

Pulpit

 
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Give SW a new lighter rig, an open budget with North’s, Stan Honey in the Nav seat & she would be right there in the mix. 
 

Hobart wise, they have always been a bit off with the routing IMO & short course it sails well heeled compared to the other skinny boats. Perhaps she has more water ballast than the others which she can’t use around the harbour. 

 
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They swarming waiting for Wharro!

www.ulladullatimes.com.au/story/7532725/dramatic-sea-rescue-near-green-island/

Three crew on board an 11 metre catamaran en route to Bermagui had a dramatic rescue today after their vessel, purchased just days earlier, began taking on water after hitting a sunfish 13 nautical miles east of Green Island near Ulladulla.
The crew of the catamaran sent out a Mayday at 1255 and activated their EPIRB, climbing into two dinghies to await rescue.

Marine Rescue Ulladulla rescue vessel UL30 was responded, and with guidance from a Royal Australian Navy helicopter from HMAS Albatross that had been deployed to assist, and the signal from the crew's EPIRB, quickly located the striken vessel. The Naval helicopter remained after their arrival with life rafts ready to drop should they have been required.
Arriving at the stricken catamaran just after 2pm, UL30 took the crew of three on board and then delivered them safely back to dry land at Ulladulla, with all on board safe and well.

A securite is current for all ships in the area advising a navigational hazard from the sinking vessel at 35 17.427 South 150 46.656 East.
The crew on UL30 were Skipper Lesley Kelly, Warwick Haslam, Mark Squires, Clive Woodward and radio operator Allan Dean and Watch Officer Keven Marshall.


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pulpit said:
Gorn,

I don't  think that Scallywag is a dog or a pig for that matter. After all Andy Dovell is a good designer with heaps of Americas  cup and other design experience. So the boat should perform  

I think the rating shows some of the problems with the boat. The boat is taking too many hits on the rating for too little gains and I think that the boat seems overpowered at times and maybe sailed wrong for the Hobart. Big sails are not always fast and can slow you down if not set up right or you sail the boat wrong. 

David Witt is a good skiff sailor and knew how to set up a skiff and had a great crew in the 18's. The trouble is when it comes to the big boats and the big budgets other owners are spending to get the best in the world to sail them Scallywag just isn't there. After all look at the last Volvo Race that the Scallywag crew sailed. OD boats and sails and 7 boat. Scallywag scored   5-6-5-1-2-Retired-6-7-7-7-6

Maybe it's  time his owner looked at getting a new boat captain / skipper with some new ideas on how to set up the boat ?

Pulpit
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I'd agree with that. Something going on in the righting moment department, she always seems tender? On the crew department they aren't comparing to Oats, Law Connect and Black Jack. Heavy air the boat struggles, was rundown in the TransAtlantic by Wizard a Volvo 70 and then stretched when it lightened up. Is there too much of a reliance on water? The hull is not that skinny so something is going on.?

 
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terrafirma said:
I'd agree with that. Something going on in the righting moment department, she always seems tender? On the crew department they aren't comparing to Oats, Law Connect and Black Jack. Heavy air the boat struggles, was rundown in the TransAtlantic by Wizard a Volvo 70 and then stretched when it lightened up. Is there too much of a reliance on water? The hull is not that skinny so something is going on.?
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Agree, Scallywag, is in no man’s land for the maxis. No disrespect to the crew, they have some seriously good guys on on board. The boat seems half pregnant with the other boats it’s racing against. 

 
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