agreed. goodvibes just hates anybody with money. that being said, AC 2-3 years ago would have gotten beat, they have REALLY figured out thir modes, and will continue to be very yough to beat in any race.I think his point is (at least as I understand it), is that you should win if you have the fastest boat, and therefore perhaps it is maybe less of an achievement, and more 'expected'?
However, I think Comanche was pushed quite hard this race. Given the proximity of the other three supermaxis, one of which who was out of phase with them, if they had one slip up, or unfavourable wind shift, they could have been toast.
Well done to them for hanging in there and sealing the Line Honours win
Go for it!Funny. I’m surveying this right now:
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Navigator punched in the wrong latitude for the TI way point?WTF is happening with Gunshot?
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Hmm. Even with a scow bow it’s not a winner. Comanche RM is 2.2x that of BJ - that’s a direct quote from someone deeply involved. Its whole sailing mode downwind is quite different to the other boats. With a keel axis tilted at 6 degrees and dagger boards canted inwards, Comanche heels over and foils like a VOR 65 at speed. You can see that clearly in images and video - the front half of the boat rides along in the air.What next for the narrow boats?
I drew up this a few years ago, slightly tongue in cheek, when I heard BlackJack was going under the knife, slicing off some stern, adding some bow and keeping the same deck:
^^^^ I am sure that you are right, but how much faster would the narrow boats have to be to close the gap in some conditions and still be superior in others?
On 2022 results, ~ 3% faster. Not impossible.
^^^^^ A bit of both I suspect?
Hard to go fast when you can't get your head out of the boat because of the yelling, just sayin'I think Oats is done.
The mods done previously should have resulted in a boat better than BJ. It looks like that isn't the case.
No one has mentioned that both Comanche & Law Connect have changed their primary choice of sailmaker as well over the last couple of years or so.Could be.
I mean it's always tempting to say 'oh well the conditions didn't exactly suit Comanche'.
But then, they did suit the other wide boat, LawConnect?
And they also suited the complete opposite design narrow boat, Black Jack, too?
Nah, I don't buy that.
So probably probably as you said, a bit of both.
If this is Comanch 'optmised' then Law Connect and Black Jack have done a stellar job to improve their boats and stay on the pace.
Well done guys
Navigator punched in the wrong latitude for the TI way point?
As BBender said on the Melb to Hobart thread, they once sailed further south to get better angles, some wag of a commentator said they must be sailing to Antarctica to get ice for their crayfish. Top line that one.WTF is happening with Gunshot?
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Would be interesting to see miles traveled.It's definitely interesting this year and I guess there are a few different ways to look at it, the two simplest of which seem to be:
- Were LawConnect and Black Jack blistering fast this year to stay so close to Comanche?
- Was Comanche actually being sailed far from her optimum and in fact quite slow?
Would be interesting to see miles traveled.
Comanche is obviously faster, but sails hotter angles.