260 Mass Shootings 160 Days, When Will it be Too Much?

[badlatitude]

And im actually kind of shocked that my initial reply could be taken as being serious. Actually I am a lot shocked, saddened and disappointed.... Because there are actually people who think that way..... 

Yes, there are plenty of people who think that way. I'm afraid I don't know basketcase(good name), that well, I should know you by now, I surely won't miss the sarcasm a second time and I apologize if you were offended.

 

[basketcase]

Yes, there are plenty of people who think that way. I'm afraid I don't know basketcase(good name), that well, I should know you by now, I surely won't miss the sarcasm a second time and I apologize if you were offended.

Not offended at all. Not by anything you have said. Offended by the state of America.

 

[Bugsy]

I am reading the book 'Skin in the Game' by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.  In that book, he postulates that 10,000 Americans die every year by suicide simply because guns are available and handy.  

I don't expect American gun culture to change for a generation or two.  

 

[badlatitude]

I am reading the book 'Skin in the Game' by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.  In that book, he postulates that 10,000 Americans die every year by suicide simply because guns are available and handy.  

I don't expect American gun culture to change for a generation or two.  

Very possibly much longer than that.

 

[basketcase]

I am reading the book 'Skin in the Game' by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.  In that book, he postulates that 10,000 Americans die every year by suicide simply because guns are available and handy.  

I don't expect American gun culture to change.  

Fify.

 

[Burning Man]

The 2nd Amendment is child's play in the area of public safety and security.  The 1st Amendment almost took down this county a few months ago and is highly likely to eventually start a civil war that could leave thousands dead and our democracy in flames.  Wake up to the real threat if you want something to bleat about.  

Just saying.

 

[Burning Man]

I am reading the book 'Skin in the Game' by Nassim Nicholas Taleb.  In that book, he postulates that 10,000 Americans die every year by suicide simply because guns are available and handy.  

I don't expect American gun culture to change for a generation or two.  

Who fucking cares?  First of all, this thread is about mass shootings.  Suicides are not them.  2nd of all, they're quitters.  Self-selection at work.    

 

[roundthebuoys]

The 2nd Amendment is child's play in the area of public safety and security.  The 1st Amendment almost took down this county a few months ago and is highly likely to eventually start a civil war that could leave thousands dead and our democracy in flames.  Wake up to the real threat if you want something to bleat about.  

Just saying.

What weapon will kill those thousands?

 

[Burning Man]

Here it is, a thread that will go absolutely nowhere. Please don't reply unless you have a possible solution.

Honest and sincere question.....  how many of those were gang or drug war related?  I'm betting most of them.  Know why???  Aside from the couple that have made the news, the ones that don't get covered are almost always gang shootings.     

nevermind - I went to the source and started going through the incidents starting with the most recent.  Drive By, Drive-by, Drive-by, drive-by, Block party, drive-by..... and then I got bored because it was just so easy to answer my own question.  

Sorry, but these gangstas - mostly black teens and young adults - (Hi Joe) are not the "American Gun Culture".  I am the American gun culture and I have as much in common with these murderous thugs as Mikewoofers has with humility and brevity.  

 

[jhc]

When will it be enough?

When federal judges stop equating an assault rifle witha pocket knife. 
 

 

[Burning Man]

What weapon will kill those thousands?

Freedom to speechify.

 

[jocal505]

Sorry, but these gangstas - mostly black teens and young adults - (Hi Joe) are not the "American Gun Culture".  I am the American gun culture and I have as much in common with these murderous thugs as Mikewoofers has with humility and brevity.  

 Tom already did such research for us. He dominated the AW thread with anecdotes for months, in a dedicated fashion. 

Which is what scapegoating looks like. It becomes the basis for stop-and-frisk type behavior, mate.

Get your actual statistics out. Get your sources out. Because ne anarchist posted a sound, sourced, 13% gangsta gun fatality figure to you, last week. Take a look.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/philip-van-cleave/are-most-murders-gangbangers-killing-gangbangers-v/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6103a2.htm

 

[Burning Man]

 Tom already did such research for us. He dominated the AW thread with anecdotes for months, in a dedicated fashion. 

Which is what scapegoating looks like. It becomes the basis for stop-and-frisk type behavior, mate.

Get your actual statistics out. Get your sources out. Because ne anarchist posted a sound, sourced, 13% gangsta gun fatality figure to you, last week.

Go down Bad lat's list in the OP and see for yourself.  How many of those "mass shootings" are gang or drug related?  

 

[jocal505]

Go down Bad lat's list in the OP and see for yourself.  How many of those "mass shootings" are gang or drug related?  

FLUFFY BOY RIDES AGAIN

Stats, mate. Let's see total homicides divided by verified (or even alleged) gansta shootings.

Sir, you would do well to seek the level of justice demanded within rap music (which I cannot stand FWIW).

 

[Burning Man]

FLUFFY BOY RIDES AGAIN

Stats, mate. Let's see total homicides divided by verified (or even alleged) gansta shootings.

Sir, you would do well to seek the level of justice demanded within rap music (which I cannot stand FWIW).

So you won't even bother to look at the list BL provided from the GVA.  Typical.  

 

[jocal505]

I will, if you will read the Pulitzer Prize-winning 1619 Project.

Hmmm, you are back to cooing Chicago now. I thought I schooled you. (And you thought my head would explode. We were both mistaken.)

Dude, from what I have seen of you, you ever fail to ponder the mess behind the mess. You are predictable in missing the "heart of the matters" of both race, and gunz. And here, these are combined, and you are so confused you are... extra fluffy.

Tell you what, MLK offered a road map for this one, based on respect.

And Gary Slutkin has offered the successful model for inner cities: opportunity, combined with the re-assessment of violence on the playing field.


The doctor who predicted Chicago's homicide epidemic

 

[justsomeguy!]

And im actually kind of shocked that my initial reply could be taken as being serious. Actually I am a lot shocked, saddened and disappointed.... Because there are actually people who think that way..... 

You'd rather people stick it out in a cuntry that freewheelingly kills innocents than elect to remove themselves and their support for a poorly thought out constitutional amendment. 

Right?

 

[Burning Man]

Here you go, joey.  I'll do the work for you, and this is just page 1:


6-10-2021 MICHIGAN DETROIT 4-2



Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Child Involved Incident
  
• Child injured (not child shooter)
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

Notes


Near Woodrow Wilson St; 2 shooters


6-10-2021 NEW YORK YONKERS 4-0




ncident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• Gang involvement
  

 

6-08-2021 TENNESSEE NASHVILLE 4-2




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Accidental Shooting
  
• Accidental Shooting - Death
  
• Stray bullet
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

Notes


north Nashville, woman killed in car stopped at light next to three shot in another car that crashed driving to hospital in 2100 block of Hayes St at 20th Ave N


6-08-2021 TEXAS HOUSTON 5-3




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• Bar/club incident - in or around establishment
  
• Assault weapon (AR-15, AK-47, and ALL variants defined by law enforcement)
  

6-07-2021 OHIO CLEVELAND 6-0





Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

6-06-2021 MISSOURI SAINT LOUIS 4-0




ncident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• Assault weapon (AR-15, AK-47, and ALL variants defined by law enforcement)
  

Notes


near Chestnut St; near Kiefer Plaza, up to 3 subjects with assault rifles

6-06-2021 NORTH CAROLINA SNOW HILL 4-0





Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  

Notes


Block party at trailer park

6-06-2021 OHIO CLEVELAND 8-0



Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  

6-06-2021 FLORIDA MIAMI (KENDALL) 9-0



Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• Bar/club incident - in or around establishment
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  

6-06-2021 CALIFORNIA OAKLAND 5-0




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

 

6-06-2021 UTAH SALT LAKE CITY 5-0





Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

 

6-06-2021 ILLINOIS CHICAGO 8-2




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Drive-by (car to street, car to car)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

Notes


6 men, 2 women wounded, standing on sidewalk;


6-05-2021 INDIANA INDIANAPOLIS 4-0





Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  

Notes


parking lot


6-05-2021 LOUISIANA NEW ORLEANS 9-0



Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  
• Assault weapon (AR-15, AK-47, and ALL variants defined by law enforcement)
  

6-02-2021 OHIO SPRINGFIELD 6-2




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  
• Possession of gun by felon or prohibited person
  

Notes


Celebration of life party at event hall. 2 suspects arrested. Victims range from 20-25 y/o. Multiple shooters.

5-31-2021 OHIO CLEVELAND (GARFIELD HEIGHTS) 6-0




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Accidental Shooting
  
• Accidental Shooting - Injury
  
• Accidental/Negligent Discharge
  
• Self-Inflicted (not suicide or suicide attempt - NO PERP)
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• House party / Block Party / Park Party
  

Notes


Person fired shots at random at party. Man accidentally shot self in leg while dropping victim off at hospital.
 







5-30-2021 FLORIDA MIAMI 23-3




Incident Characteristics

• Shot - Wounded/Injured
  
• Shot - Dead (murder, accidental, suicide)
  
• Defensive Use
  
• Defensive Use - Shots fired, no injury/death
  
• Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)
  
• Shootout (where VENN diagram of shooters and victims overlap)
  
• Bar/club incident - in or around establishment
  
• Assault weapon (AR-15, AK-47, and ALL variants defined by law enforcement)
  

Notes


rap concert; 21 shot; hooded subjects fired into crowd with assault rifles, handguns; multiple people return fire, unclear if subjects hit
 

 

[justsomeguy!]

Ats'a shload of cut 'n pasting.

Cheers.

 

[badlatitude]

Honest and sincere question.....  how many of those were gang or drug war related?  I'm betting most of them.  Know why???  Aside from the couple that have made the news, the ones that don't get covered are almost always gang shootings.     

nevermind - I went to the source and started going through the incidents starting with the most recent.  Drive By, Drive-by, Drive-by, drive-by, Block party, drive-by..... and then I got bored because it was just so easy to answer my own question.  

Sorry, but these gangstas - mostly black teens and young adults - (Hi Joe) are not the "American Gun Culture".  I am the American gun culture and I have as much in common with these murderous thugs as Mikewoofers has with humility and brevity.  

You can't separate guns from those reponsible and irresponsible, the NRA worked hard to make access to everyone. You may be the American gun culture, and you will pay just the same.  I am looking for solutions, not finger pointing.