260 Mass Shootings 160 Days, When Will it be Too Much?

NeedAClew

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Sorry.  I don't think there is a solution in the US unless Constitutional changes are made to profile for mental illness or sociopathy. 

 

badlatitude

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Sorry.  I don't think there is a solution in the US unless Constitutional changes are made to profile for mental illness or sociopathy. 
There is a very large resistance to mental health exams, and the bulk of those are from military veterans who want PTSD benefits, but don't want to lose their right to gun ownership.

 

SloopJonB

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Focus groups and press sensationalism are issues that need to be addresses but how? The people want some of that.

Anger is the cause of much gun violence what is the proper way to address that?


Man Shot 6-Year-Old; Attacked Him With A Sledgehammer For Leaving His Bike On Front Lawn


A Michigan man is accused of opening fire on a 6-year-old boy who left his bicycle in front of the man’s home. 

Ryan Le-Nguyen, 29, faces charges of assault and intent to murder in Ypsilanti Township. 

Coby Daniel, 6, suffered a gunshot wound to his arm and was rushed to hospital following the Saturday incident. He’s expected to make a full recovery. 

Arnold Daniel, the boy’s father, told Detroit television station WJBK that Le-Nguyen first attacked the young boy with a sledgehammer when he left his bike on the man's front lawn. When the boy went to retrieve the bike, his father say Le-Nguyen opened fire, shooting the child in the arm. 
 




Later in the story it says he was released on bail of $10K. 

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/ryan-le-nguyen-allegedly-shot-6-year-old-over-bicycle
Perfect illustration of the American insanity on all levels.

$10K bail for shooting a small child? WTF has happened to you?

 

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 Why haven't the 2ndA supporters come out and said what's really on their minds: "It's mostly black gang kids killing each other, and nobody's shot up my kid's school yet, and I really love my customized 1911 and my P226 and both my Glocks and my AR15 and my shotguns, so fuck all y'all! Freedom!!"
you obviously missed jeffies posts .......

 

badlatitude

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Perfect illustration of the American insanity on all levels.

$10K bail for shooting a small child? WTF has happened to you?
The outcry forced the city attorney to adjust the bail amount.

On Tuesday, the Washtenaw County Prosecutor’s Office filed an emergency motion to raise Le-Nguyen’s bond to $100,000. Prosecutors argued Le-Nguyen poses a risk to the public and that his low bail has “compounded” the community’s “pain and anger” in the brazen shooting’s aftermath.

“A 6-year-old child was shot in our community,” Washtenaw County District Attorney Eli Savit said in a Wednesday statement disputing the low bond. “The most important thing is that he will survive — and hopefully has a long life ahead of him. But it could have been much different."

Other county officials also cast doubt on Michigan’s bail reform efforts in response to Le-Nguyen’s release ahead of trial. 

"I've been consistent since day one that I agree with the premise on reform around bail, that your ability to pay or not to pay a dollar amount shouldn't be the determining factor on whether you stay incarcerated through the adjudication process," Sheriff Jerry Clayton also told WJBK. "We owe it to the system and the community we serve, to evaluate whether we are getting those outcomes. And if we are not we need to be smart enough and courageous enough to say this is not what we intended, let's make our adjustments."  

From the link above.

 
Focus groups and press sensationalism are issues that need to be addresses but how? The people want some of that.

Anger is the cause of much gun violence what is the proper way to address that?


Man Shot 6-Year-Old; Attacked Him With A Sledgehammer For Leaving His Bike On Front Lawn


A Michigan man is accused of opening fire on a 6-year-old boy who left his bicycle in front of the man’s home. 

Ryan Le-Nguyen, 29, faces charges of assault and intent to murder in Ypsilanti Township. 

Coby Daniel, 6, suffered a gunshot wound to his arm and was rushed to hospital following the Saturday incident. He’s expected to make a full recovery. 

Arnold Daniel, the boy’s father, told Detroit television station WJBK that Le-Nguyen first attacked the young boy with a sledgehammer when he left his bike on the man's front lawn. When the boy went to retrieve the bike, his father say Le-Nguyen opened fire, shooting the child in the arm. 
 




Later in the story it says he was released on bail of $10K. 

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/ryan-le-nguyen-allegedly-shot-6-year-old-over-bicycle
This is a perfect example of just how fucked up things are in the USA.

Too bad.

The founders gave you all a good running start, and now look what you have.

 

badlatitude

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This is a perfect example of just how fucked up things are in the USA.

Too bad.

The founders gave you all a good running start, and now look what you have.
What's your excuse? different country, different weapons


Four members of a Muslim family were killed in a "premeditated" vehicle attack on Sunday, Canadian police say. 



The attack took place in the city of London, Ontario province. A boy aged nine, the family's only survivor, is in hospital with serious injuries. 



A 20-year-old Canadian man has been charged with four counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.



The attack was the worst against Canadian Muslims since six people were killed in a Quebec City mosque in 2017.



"It is believed that these victims were targeted because they were Muslim," Det Supt Paul Waight told a news conference on Monday. 



Police are weighing possible terrorism charges, he said, adding that it is believed to be a hate crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57390398


 
 
 

SloopJonB

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The outcry forced the city attorney to adjust the bail amount.

On Tuesday, the Washtenaw County Prosecutor’s Office filed an emergency motion to raise Le-Nguyen’s bond to $100,000.
Why was he given bail at all?

JFC if attempted murder of a small child doesn't warrant remand, what does?

I'm beginning to think that getting rid of the shitstain isn't nearly enough to save America.

I think the fat lady has stepped onto the stage.

 

SloopJonB

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What's your excuse? different country, different weapons


Four members of a Muslim family were killed in a "premeditated" vehicle attack on Sunday, Canadian police say. 



The attack took place in the city of London, Ontario province. A boy aged nine, the family's only survivor, is in hospital with serious injuries. 



A 20-year-old Canadian man has been charged with four counts of murder and one count of attempted murder.



The attack was the worst against Canadian Muslims since six people were killed in a Quebec City mosque in 2017.



"It is believed that these victims were targeted because they were Muslim," Det Supt Paul Waight told a news conference on Monday. 



Police are weighing possible terrorism charges, he said, adding that it is believed to be a hate crime.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57390398
Nobody says we're perfect but any comparison to the current insanity in the States is ludicrous in the extreme.

Canada 2021 - 5 dead & wounded in mass killing.

USA 2021 - 1,288 dead & wounded in mass killing

Yeah - that's pretty much the same thing.

 
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badlatitude

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Why was he given bail at all?

JFC if attempted murder of a small child doesn't warrant remand, what does?

I'm beginning to think that getting rid of the shitstain isn't nearly enough to save America.

I think the fat lady has stepped onto the stage.
The Washtenaw County Prosecutor's Office is seeking to return to custody a man accused of shooting a 6-year-old boy last weekend in Ypsilanti Township.

"We share in the community's pain and anger from a child being shot. And we know that, for many, the pain and anger is compounded by the fact that the defendant was able to make his bond as set by the court," said Washtenaw County Prosecutor Eli Savit in a Facebook statement on Wednesday.

"To be clear: our office recommended significantly more restrictive bond conditions, and we disagree with the bond decision that was handed down by the court. That is why, on Tuesday afternoon, we filed an emergency motion to cancel the defendant's bond, and for his bond to be reconsidered."

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/06/10/shooting-suspect-makes-bail-washtenaw-prosecutor/7630142002/

 

badlatitude

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Nobody says we're perfect but any comparison to the current insanity in the States is ludicrous in the extreme.
I disagree, you are 1/10th the size of the U.S. and are doing a heckuva job of trying to keep up. Just wait until your population is equal the U.S

 

SloopJonB

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I disagree, you are 1/10th the size of the U.S. and are doing a heckuva job of trying to keep up. Just wait until your population is equal the U.S
A trifle arithmetically challenged are we?

10 X 5 = 50, not 1288

We had one incident this year and one incident last year totaling 30 people - one decent weekend in the States.

Then it was back to 2018

We've had 953 victim like this since the 17th century.

 
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badlatitude

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Nobody says we're perfect but any comparison to the current insanity in the States is ludicrous in the extreme.

Canada 2021 - 5 dead & wounded in mass killing.

USA 2021 - 1,288 dead & wounded in mass killing

Yeah - that's pretty much the same thing.
Canada had 249 gun homicides in 2018. You have a good chance to catch up.

 

SloopJonB

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A deflection worthy of Dog.

We're discussing mass shootings and you quote all gun homicides - elsewhere.

And even there you are arithmetically challenged - 249 VS 19000.

But you're absolutely right, I agree

Gun violence in the States is no different than anywhere else.

 

Mike G

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Interesting.  Never heard about words killing anyone.
Any distraction at this point is necessary.

Video Games.  Absent fathers. Mental health.  etc etc.

You're about to be shown how words kill. By the people that are nervous about losing their precious.

THEIR precious, guns, not our precious, humans.

All to change the and dilute the topic.

 

roundthebuoys

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Any distraction at this point is necessary.

Video Games.  Absent fathers. Mental health.  etc etc.

You're about to be shown how words kill. By the people that are nervous about losing their precious.

THEIR precious, guns, not our precious, humans.

All to change the and dilute the topic.
Yep, some toy that they pretend has some sort of constitutional backing, even though they only read the parts they think does so and not the parts where it explicitly says otherwise.  But whatever, they have small dicks or the gun chicks want to impress the guys with small dicks because they have tattoos and a tall truck.

 

badlatitude

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This grandmother was shopping with her 2 year old grandson. It isn't a mass shooting but it involved mental illness.


Publix murder-suicide: Grandmother tried to fight off man in seemingly random attack


Local10News) ROYAL PALM BEACH, Fla. – Detectives believe the Publix murder-suicide was a random act by a mentally ill man, the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office said Friday. 

Timothy J. Wall, 55 of Loxahatchee, is the man authorities say killed a woman and her nearly 2-year-old grandson before taking his own life in the frightening supermarket shooting Thursday morning. 

Deputies say Wall walked into the Publix at 1180 Royal Palm Beach Boulevard in Royal Palm Beach and shot the toddler dead. The boy’s grandmother ran over to try and stop the attack. Wall knocked her to the ground, shot her, and then turned the gun on himself, investigators say. 

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Bradshaw said this should have been prevented but no one in Wall’s life spoke up about it. 

“He’s on Facebook. He has said, ‘I want to kill people and children,’” Bradshaw said. “He’s got friends. Obviously they saw that. His ex-wife said he’s been acting strange. He thinks he’s being followed. He’s paranoid. You think a damn soul told us about that? No.” 

Read More:  https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/06/11/timothy-wall-identified-as-publix-gunman-its-awful-shoppers-say/ 

 
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