65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space
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DA-WOODY
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Does he have at least life vests? Someone should really stop him from going anywhere without any life saving equipment. A radar reflector would be of great help too, as this boat was obviously under the 10.000 designs he studied:
could have bought that for $250.00
SloopJonB
Super Anarchist
Forget a decent storm, a typical day on S.F. Bay will probably take it out.
Your C&C 39 is one of the best and best looking boats ever built. The Maestro has mentioned several times that it is one of his all time favourites. Absent the extreme rule bending freaks, IOR boats are some of the best looking boats ever built.
Hows that for a balance of energy?
SloopJonB
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Hobie Dog
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Lilmurray??? What is going on? Anybody on the scene there? Is she still tied at the dock?
Howdy everyone and greetings from Montana. I was a long time lurker but had to sign up for this thread. Whew. I am a professional contractor, builder, master carpenter, stair builder, finish carpenter etc. Let me just say wow. What a disaster. At best HR is a framer and just so you know framers are at the bottom of the carpentry ladder. Check out post #1984 and you can see that the stairs are not the same pitch. There's a building code violation right there. Amateur crap. I would have fired him on the spot.
I wanted to address some items that came up in this long thread. I am not condoning Mr. Rods techniques.
1. Putting a steel plate between structural wood members is called a flitch beam and was used often before engineered lumber. They are usually vertical.
2. Standard spray in foam insulation strengthens a structure quite a bit. I'm talking about the stuff the insulation contractor buys in 55 gal drums. You can feel it if you walk on a roof after the underside of the ply has been done. I wonder?
3. I do believe that a first time boat builder could build a large boat given enough research and a set of plans from a NA or designer. It ain't rocket science. There are lots of vids, books, websites etc with all the info you need. Just do it the right way. I would not design or engineer my own boat. Never.
4. Amateurs shop at Home Depot. Real builders go to a real lumber yard.
I am confused, though. Do I want points or not want points? Love you guys and keep it up. BOB
I wanted to address some items that came up in this long thread. I am not condoning Mr. Rods techniques.
1. Putting a steel plate between structural wood members is called a flitch beam and was used often before engineered lumber. They are usually vertical.
2. Standard spray in foam insulation strengthens a structure quite a bit. I'm talking about the stuff the insulation contractor buys in 55 gal drums. You can feel it if you walk on a roof after the underside of the ply has been done. I wonder?
3. I do believe that a first time boat builder could build a large boat given enough research and a set of plans from a NA or designer. It ain't rocket science. There are lots of vids, books, websites etc with all the info you need. Just do it the right way. I would not design or engineer my own boat. Never.
4. Amateurs shop at Home Depot. Real builders go to a real lumber yard.
I am confused, though. Do I want points or not want points? Love you guys and keep it up. BOB
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Caca Cabeza
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I have a theory. Hear me out.
Notice the dearth of posts here by Snaggie? I think Snaggie is none other than HotRod, who, according to the USCG is James Lane of Chico, CA.
Mystery solved.
Your welcome.
Notice the dearth of posts here by Snaggie? I think Snaggie is none other than HotRod, who, according to the USCG is James Lane of Chico, CA.
Mystery solved.
Your welcome.
The folks at Lat 38 were, shall we say, generous:
Floating Nicely on Her LinesMay 29, 2013 – Loch Lomond Marina
The 71-ft home-built catamaran pictured below has been a conspicuous landmark on the grounds of San Rafael's Loch Lomond Marina ever since James Lane, his family and friends began assembling it there two years ago. After countless hours of labor, she was finally launched at roughly 2 a.m. on Memorial Day morning.
[SIZE=11pt]After two years of almost nonstop work, this huge homebuilt cat was launched during the wee hours Monday morning. The launch process alone was a remarkable feat of engineering. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Photo Latitude / Andy
© 2013 Latitude 38 Publishing, LLC[/SIZE]
The choice of a nighttime launch, we're told, was due to the high tide at that hour, combined with the family's desire to minimize the number of spectators on site.
Because the boat was designed by Lane, who is an accomplished carpenter but not a naval architect, the slowly evolving structure drew both praise and critique from local boaters. Say what you will about the cat's somewhat unusual look, you've got to give Lane and his crew a huge measure of credit for seeing this colossol job through. The fact that the big cat floats almost exactly on her lines is a testament to Lane's engineering skills — even though he's never built a boat before.
We've been quietly observing the cat's progress since construction began at Loch Lomond, but chose to give the builders their privacy during the construction process. Now that she's been launched, though, and the project is near completion, we hope to learn more about the specifics of the building process and about Lane's plans to sail her to Hawaii.
- latitude / andy
Floating Nicely on Her LinesMay 29, 2013 – Loch Lomond Marina
The 71-ft home-built catamaran pictured below has been a conspicuous landmark on the grounds of San Rafael's Loch Lomond Marina ever since James Lane, his family and friends began assembling it there two years ago. After countless hours of labor, she was finally launched at roughly 2 a.m. on Memorial Day morning.
[SIZE=11pt]After two years of almost nonstop work, this huge homebuilt cat was launched during the wee hours Monday morning. The launch process alone was a remarkable feat of engineering. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=9pt]Photo Latitude / Andy
© 2013 Latitude 38 Publishing, LLC[/SIZE]
The choice of a nighttime launch, we're told, was due to the high tide at that hour, combined with the family's desire to minimize the number of spectators on site.
Because the boat was designed by Lane, who is an accomplished carpenter but not a naval architect, the slowly evolving structure drew both praise and critique from local boaters. Say what you will about the cat's somewhat unusual look, you've got to give Lane and his crew a huge measure of credit for seeing this colossol job through. The fact that the big cat floats almost exactly on her lines is a testament to Lane's engineering skills — even though he's never built a boat before.
We've been quietly observing the cat's progress since construction began at Loch Lomond, but chose to give the builders their privacy during the construction process. Now that she's been launched, though, and the project is near completion, we hope to learn more about the specifics of the building process and about Lane's plans to sail her to Hawaii.
- latitude / andy
Random Thom
Member
My welcome what?
I had to post something to celebrate catching up with this thread again. It's taken all week.
Seriously, what the hell has got into lilmurray prioritising keeping his job and catching up on sleep over us? Love your work by the way.
Timo42
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redviking
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Oh geez.... Did Bob ever talk about the crappy master berth? Nevermind, the Hunter and BendyToy people don't get why I love my boat either.... Maybe I can get the Rod to build me a aft floating stateroom for the skanks. You know, something attached but aft....Forget a decent storm, a typical day on S.F. Bay will probably take it out.
Your C&C 39 is one of the best and best looking boats ever built. The Maestro has mentioned several times that it is one of his all time favourites. Absent the extreme rule bending freaks, IOR boats are some of the best looking boats ever built.
Hows that for a balance of energy?
james mcmullen
Member
Look, I don't read Latitude 38 myself, but are all their writers this phenomenally incompetent?
Sweet Jeebus! You'd think a cruising sailor, of all people, would understand that a just-launched, empty boat with UN-finished accomodations,NO stores, NO fuel, NO water aboard is not "floating almost exactly on her lines"! Cripes! You fail both in basic Physics and Reporting!
james mcmullen
Member
The next moron who tries to link "engineering skills" and Hot Rod in the same sentence is going to get their inbox spammed with a series of high-resolution jpegs of that rudder and steering linkage. Don't test me, I'm serious!
RumLine
Anarchist
I love how this tanker floats almost exactly on her lines, and the two tone paint job is quite eye catching!
ZeroTheHero
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senormechanico
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Rudder shot on post # 1623.
They'll snap right off when asked to do anything in any sea state more than a foot or two.
This boat would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
They'll snap right off when asked to do anything in any sea state more than a foot or two.
This boat would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Steam Flyer
Sophisticated Yet Humble
No advice on the points -vs- no points. Can we trade them in for prizes? I thought I was going to get some points for grinding an annoying twerp under my heel the other day, but apparently that's OK.
Designing a boat- yeah it's not rocket surgery. Check ou t this thread from a while back (linky linky). But starting with a 60+ footer would probably not be a good idea, and building it to a higher standard than the cheapest grade of garden shed would also be a good idea.
Great first post Sand Crab but you still get the traditional greeting
Show us your wife/girlfriends tits
Fuck off
Oh and we do have some other sailors from Montana around here somewhere
FB- Doug
Oronoco
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This does not sound condescending. Good thing, because Latitude wants to be on HR's good side at the award dinner in Lahaina.The folks at Lat 38 were, shall we say, generous:
Floating Nicely on Her Lines
May 29, 2013 – Loch Lomond Marina
The 71-ft home-built catamaran pictured below has been a conspicuous landmark on the grounds of San Rafael's Loch Lomond Marina ever since James Lane, his family and friends began assembling it there two years ago. After countless hours of labor, she was finally launched at roughly 2 a.m. on Memorial Day morning. [/size]
After two years of almost nonstop work, this huge homebuilt cat was launched during the wee hours Monday morning. The launch process alone was a remarkable feat of engineering. Photo Latitude / Andy
© 2013 Latitude 38 Publishing, LLC
The choice of a nighttime launch, we're told, was due to the high tide at that hour, combined with the family's desire to minimize the number of spectators on site.
Because the boat was designed by Lane, who is an accomplished carpenter but not a naval architect, the slowly evolving structure drew both praise and critique from local boaters. Say what you will about the cat's somewhat unusual look, you've got to give Lane and his crew a huge measure of credit for seeing this colossol job through. The fact that the big cat floats almost exactly on her lines is a testament to Lane's engineering skills — even though he's never built a boat before.
We've been quietly observing the cat's progress since construction began at Loch Lomond, but chose to give the builders their privacy during the construction process. Now that she's been launched, though, and the project is near completion, we hope to learn more about the specifics of the building process and about Lane's plans to sail her to Hawaii.
- latitude / andy