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Wcyr07

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Ah, Mr. iSail, that will be my new area of expertise. Guy's research shows that in the Country of Hawaii, permits and licenses can be had for meager amounts of beads and bobbles. C'est une nation d'idiots, yes?
I seriously doubt that his structure will pass any legitimate classification society
you clearly have no idea who you are dealing with. Mr. Guy will get it done.
That's scary.

You're telling me that Guy will get a completely unseaworthy vessel certified to guarantee commercial operational safety for passengers in US waters?

 

Timo42

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Ah, Mr. iSail, that will be my new area of expertise. Guy's research shows that in the Country of Hawaii, permits and licenses can be had for meager amounts of beads and bobbles. C'est une nation d'idiots, yes?
I seriously doubt that his structure will pass any legitimate classification society
you clearly have no idea who you are dealing with. Mr. Guy will get it done.
That's scary.

You're telling me that Guy will get a completely unseaworthy vessel certified to guarantee commercial operational safety for passengers in US waters?
It would be, as they say, a trifle, for someone of Guy's ability.

 

SloopJonB

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Mike is right. I never figured out why but that's how it works.

Best of luck with your adventure Hotrod.. A lot of us are pulling for you.

But you need to learn the SA way. It's not always pretty and polite but it can be valuable.

Now HTFU and get to work.
This from a man that can't nail two bits of wood together,

Has such an ego that he wants control over who posts in CA

A man that had one good design, but is now being used by owners wanting the 'last' design.

The only thing Bob pulls for is himself, and is certainly somebody that doesn't understand HTFU.
And what have YOU done lately? Perry has provided the world with umpteen beautiful boats. You?

 

Wcyr07

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Ah, Mr. iSail, that will be my new area of expertise. Guy's research shows that in the Country of Hawaii, permits and licenses can be had for meager amounts of beads and bobbles. C'est une nation d'idiots, yes?
I seriously doubt that his structure will pass any legitimate classification society
you clearly have no idea who you are dealing with. Mr. Guy will get it done.
That's scary.

You're telling me that Guy will get a completely unseaworthy vessel certified to guarantee commercial operational safety for passengers in US waters?
It would be, as they say, a trifle, for someone of Guy's ability.
Best of luck...

"vessels are required to produce a satisfactory inspection report issued by a marine surveyor on the Department of Transportation's list of approved marine surveyors. Inspection is validated through DLNR/DOBOR. Vessels certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to carry more than six passengers for hire are subject to additional inspection requirements by the U.S. Coast Guard."

From hawaii.gov

 

SloopJonB

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You know. Throughout this whole "tome" of a thread, there is a basic "something" that seems to have been missed by most of our resident experts. That "something" is the fact that this site is called "Sailing ANARCHY" and in that vein our Flying Hot Rod is more of an ANARCHIST than 90% of the rest of our gallant bunch of bullshitters. Yes, he maybe doing it wrong from our point of view but, at least he's bloody well doing it and not sitting in front of a screen thowing shit in the air between bouts of wanking at the latest peice of plastic boat porn that they'll never be able to afford. I'm not condoning HR's design / build model by any means (I actually think that it is quite hideous), but, what I do condone is the fact that he got off of his ass and had a go at making his dream come true (And I trully hope he will do so). Most of the motor mouthed bastards on here are too scared to have a bath without having the comfort zone of an EPIRB and a GPS leaning against the hot tap. WcW
There is another basic something that is also missing, and that is "Sailing."

Anarchy, we seem to have in spades. But, this hasn't evolved to the level of CA yet, just AA. No, not that one, but "Anchoring Anarchy." Just hope we don't have main shipping channel anarchy, or CGA. And recently, we looked like we were going strong with "Sons of Anarchy", what with the Harleysaki and guns.

I'd love to see some Sailing Anarchy. Really! Just hope HR and family don't then have a bath WITHOUT an EPIRB.
So do I mate. So do I, but it would be nice to see him pull it off if only to get some of the knobheads on here to shut the fuck up for once. Most of the twats on here would be quite willing to watch a blind man get run over by a truck just to be able to tell him how stupid he was for being blind in the first place.
Poor analogy.

This is a blind man that people have tried to convince not to cross the street.
Much better.

 

SloopJonB

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HR,

This is really your only option - other than remaining stuck in the mud off the San Rafael Canal:

Since your boat cannot survive on the bay (or any other body of water with even modest wave action) your only choice is the Sacramento Delta. To get there you will need three things: a way to tow the boat, some way to connect to the towboat, and a reservation at a marina. You'll have to work on the towboat but the only way I see to tow the Flyin' Hawai'ian without serious structural work (i.e., there is no strong point to support bitts or Samson posts) is to rig a bridle. This means take some lines (i.e., ropes, use your biggest) and go along each side deck, under the deck and connect the ends at the bow; tie the two bridles together at the bow with another line with a shackle (or loop) in the middle to which you attach the actual tow line. The third thing, a reservation at a marina. I'd suggest Tinsley Island. It's way up in the delta away from prying eyes and it has good facilities.

Good luck.
Yeah, but WHERE do you ATTACH the bridle? There are no points that won't tear out when loaded. The Front Fell Off?
Read it again - he'd have to lassoo the boat on each side between the hulls. I think he's correct - that's the only way I could see to do it as well - the "structure" of that boat would seem to obviate building any sort of hard spot or base for towing bitts.

 

hard aground

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HR,

I just discovered your story this week over at the CF forum. The amount of effort you and yours have put into your boat is commendable and I whis you success going forward.

I have a question about visibility. From the looks of the port and starboard wheels you can not see 360deg around the boat from their location. Do you plan to run the boat with a multi person watch and sound powered phones(you can get these surplus from the Navy). Any thought to adding a cupola with steering gear atop the house for better visiblilty?

All things considered I worry about you loosing sight of Bouys and channel markers and holing the boat.

Fair winds and following seas,

Gary
Seriously? Visibility is what you worry about on that thing?
Imagine getting run over by that thing. I'd bet that from the opposite side helm you couldn't even hear the yell of "STARBOARD!!"

 

ramwel2010

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It would be, as they say, a trifle, for someone of Guy's ability.
Best of luck...

"vessels are required to produce a satisfactory inspection report issued by a marine surveyor on the Department of Transportation's list of approved marine surveyors. Inspection is validated through DLNR/DOBOR. Vessels certified by the U.S. Coast Guard to carry more than six passengers for hire are subject to additional inspection requirements by the U.S. Coast Guard."

From hawaii.gov
To better understand Mr. Guy's significance to the sailing community you may wish to research the mighty vessel Murrelet and the elusive 4th mode. Here is a link to the demented writings of HWSNBN. http://www.eskimo.com/~mighetto/p09.htm#Sick%20Marketing a famous SA thread centered on this vessel can be found via the search function.

the history of this vessel and the legendary souls involved in the story go back to a time when this was a site for racing sailors and not a hangout for socially inept cruising dorks. so sad to see how the place has changed. The saga of Murrelet is just a small part of the history of this once great website. now it is just another generic corner of the web. such is life.

 

Monkey

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HR,

I just discovered your story this week over at the CF forum. The amount of effort you and yours have put into your boat is commendable and I whis you success going forward.

I have a question about visibility. From the looks of the port and starboard wheels you can not see 360deg around the boat from their location. Do you plan to run the boat with a multi person watch and sound powered phones(you can get these surplus from the Navy). Any thought to adding a cupola with steering gear atop the house for better visiblilty?

All things considered I worry about you loosing sight of Bouys and channel markers and holing the boat.

Fair winds and following seas,

Gary
Seriously? Visibility is what you worry about on that thing?
Imagine getting run over by that thing. I'd bet that from the opposite side helm you couldn't even hear the yell of "STARBOARD!!"
I can imagine it already. You hear all sorts of bad noises, a mild thud, and go WTF. You run to the low side, and then try to figure out what scratched your hull or where the big pile of plywood debris came from.
 
anyone want to compare PM's received last night from the FH sock puppet

1 paragraph that I received 2 X

spoke to someone else who received same message too ;)

it ain't Rod

I don't understand how this constitutes proof of a sock puppet. How do you explain the selfie clearly taken Saturday night from inside the boat?
must have been in one of the 200 posts while I was sneezing so I guess I missed it :eek:

 
since there was no retraction made, I have just reported the threat made by HR. I was asked to send the actual post and SA's url to this thread, which I have done. If I hear anything further I shall let you all know. The San Rafael police boat may be giving him a visit soon.

meuritt

 

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