65- by 32-foot catamaran 3200sqft of living space

[pironiero]

You gotta admit, it's a scary thing to come around the corner and be faced with that!

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Holy canoli, what the fuck is this thing?

 

[Autonomous]

If a flat earther built a circumnavigator...

 

[167149]

Holy canoli, what the fuck is this thing?

absolutely no fucking idea, can only sit back in wonder with regard to rig though...... Lateen??? or is there a 6V92 tucked into each hull and the rig is just a decoy

 

[dog of war]

I wonder what happened to this thing.........

Edit.... Never mind it looks like it is all here but I missed it in my extended absence from here. I will have to read through to get up to date

this should be required reading for all newbs along with the mandatory showing of the Tits

 

[167149]

I wonder what happened to this thing.........

Edit.... Never mind it looks like it is all here but I missed it in my extended absence from here. I will have to read through to get up to date

this should be required reading for all newbs along with the mandatory showing of the Tits

even with that care is needed these days, did the traditional welcome not so long ago and got bawled out by one of the cape horners in the Mac26 owners club

 

[HypnoToad]

Sigh. Was hoping for an update on Hot Rod.

 

[floater]

bluf. he constructed an ambitiously large floating boat shaped object using plywood, 2x4's, and drywall screws sourced at Home Depot. he then took it outside the Gate, and it duly disintegrated.*

hot rod last seen somewhere in Hawaii.

*somewhere in here there is a lesson.

 

[Pertinacious Tom]

I wonder what happened to this thing.........

Edit.... Never mind it looks like it is all here but I missed it in my extended absence from here. I will have to read through to get up to date

this should be required reading for all newbs along with the mandatory showing of the Tits

It's pretty long but I've always thought this post provided the best two-word summary of the project: fractal mistake.

Yes, the strength of the rudders is really almost irrelevant. He could have titanium/kryptonite/unobtanium rudder shafts and that thing is still going to sail and steer like a steaming turd because of the incredibly poor hull shape.

It's only worth picking out specific details to criticise if it entertains you. This "boat" is a fractal mistake--it is wrong at every level of resolution, from the specific to the global. It wouldn't matter if he got the rudders right because the boat and the rig are so wrong. It wouldn't matter if he'd gotten the hull shape right because the materials selection was so godawful. It wouldn't matter if he'd gotten the right materials because his craftsmanship and engineering are so poor. It wouldn't matter if he'd engineered it right because he has zero offshore experience and no clue how to handle a giant catamaran at sea. . .and so on.

The frighteningly inadequate rudder scantlings are really no more or less awful than all of the rest of it. It's all fucked. All of it.

 

[mathystuff]

A worthy challenger.

 

[Al Paca]

Is that an antenna tower for the mast and boom?

 

[Sail4beer]

😮 That is a big chunk of scrap metal. Nice bumper, but I don’t think that boat gets much company.

 

[Sail4beer]

A little digital digging came up with this…

waveScalpel | catamaran development, manufacturing and sailing

www.wavescalpel.com

 

[Steam Flyer]

Is that an antenna tower for the mast and boom?

Sure looks like it. Somebody should tell that guy, the boom typically does not make a good antenna.

 

[turtle recall]

Sure looks like it. Somebody should tell that guy, the boom typically does not make a good antenna.

he has form though...maybe he wasn't in the hull design team at Bavaria??

From 2000-2003 I sailed one-handed on PASEO (11.5m custom made catamaran) from Kiel/Germany to Brisbane/Australia.

Since 1991 I’m running an engineering office. Amongst others I’m working in the product development for BAVARIA Yachtbau GmbH.

readmorehere:www.manfredraschke.com
.​

From 2008 until 2012 I have manufactured my 18m by 10m cruising catamaran WaveScalpel according my own design.

 

[mathystuff]

To be fair to that metal monstrosity, unlike rimas creation it is a working sailboat.

 

[Somebody Else]

Is that an antenna tower for the mast and boom?

At least it's identifiable as a mast and boom. HotRod's spars defied such identification. Also, that looks like at least superficially viable standing and running rigging and furled heads'ls.

 

[floater]

structurally - an interesting solution. my guess the builder an engineer.

yes. a german engineer, to boot. ;-)

 

[Irrational 14]

This might be Tin Man's German Cousin... wrong thread.

 

[eric1207]

Here's my neighbor's mast, standard aluminum schedule 40, 1.5" pipe. Welded up in one day with pieces he previously cut out. It's circumnavigated, with a couple Pacific and Alaska loops thrown in. He can pick it up by himself. Climbing it of course is a non issue. Seems real practical. He's a very smart, technical type guy and says his research showed less turbulence than a standard oval mast. Too bad my old club mate Tom Speer is not around to ask his opinion.

PS: He built that steel 47'er by himself in just a year. Prior to that he'd built a 57' ferro that he also circumnavigated in. He's the real deal.

 

[HypnoToad]

It's like the Tin Man and Hot Rod had a love child. A more intelligent and capable love child. This boat/website needs its own thread.

 

[eric1207]

Just posting in regards post 12748 above. The 47'er had previous mention on another thread that I no longer remember the name of. I don't plan, nor think its worthy of a separate thread. But it's impressive what my neighbor has done.