A big project!
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TheDragon
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It doesn't have to be wide - 4' or so with a railing. Have a platform at one end for the big power tools if you need space. Lots of room at the transom or alongside the bow (because people build rectangular covering sheds but boats are pointy at the bow thus more room for a bigger platform at the bow.
PaulK
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Why not put the tools on the deck itself, or on a hatch cover? No need to build a platform. Much of the interior was taken out and put in storage at the outset, so how much are heavy tools going to be needed anyway?
Black Jack
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There will be nothing actually left original of the old Talley Ho. These folks are quite enterprising with many facets in this sophisticated social media marketing boat program. There is even an old wood reuse initiative in the works. Get on that donor list, take a piece of the old Ho and personally feel part of this solid program.
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PaulK
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Oops- got her confused with Coronet, in Newport. Coronet's interior has been stowed away. Tally Ho was an empty hull when Leo got her.
PaulK
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Interesting to find this study of drogues using Tally-Ho as one of the subjects in tank tests:
https://www.jordanseriesdrogue.com/pdf/droguecoastguardreport.pdf
https://www.jordanseriesdrogue.com/pdf/droguecoastguardreport.pdf
TwoLegged
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German magazine summarises one of Leo's videos: https://floatmagazin.de/leute/das-plankenkleid-der-tally-ho-leo-sampson
I guess it's a cheap way of filling pages
I guess it's a cheap way of filling pages
PaulK
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Possibly a good way for Leo to add to his viewers and supporters as well. After reading the article, English-speaking Germans who hadn't known about Tally Ho are likely to look her up online. Note how they must have gotten his OK to use his copyrighted photos throughout the article.
alphafb552
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cool and homo are not mutually exclusive. I have lots of gay friends who are super cool!Cristoforo said:
alphafb552
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So what started up as a backyard personal project has now basically mutated into a commercially operated shipyard...
The pitfalls of a disruptive business model, where the product of the endeavor is not considered the economic goal, but the internet content generated along the way.
I guess this is what it will come down to, what is the ultimate aim of Leo's project? For most of us here, I don't think there is much doubt, we all just want to see Tally Ho sailing again. But from a legal and tax point of view, it's hard to dispute the fact that whatever he's doing, he's generating income from it.
Lots of you guys out there are based in the PNW, anyone out there who can reach out to Leo and give him a hand with the county, to ensure at least that Tally Ho can be completed to a moveable condition before being forced out of Sequim?
Of course, he will then need to find a suitable shipyard as well to finish the project...
The pitfalls of a disruptive business model, where the product of the endeavor is not considered the economic goal, but the internet content generated along the way.
I guess this is what it will come down to, what is the ultimate aim of Leo's project? For most of us here, I don't think there is much doubt, we all just want to see Tally Ho sailing again. But from a legal and tax point of view, it's hard to dispute the fact that whatever he's doing, he's generating income from it.
Lots of you guys out there are based in the PNW, anyone out there who can reach out to Leo and give him a hand with the county, to ensure at least that Tally Ho can be completed to a moveable condition before being forced out of Sequim?
Of course, he will then need to find a suitable shipyard as well to finish the project...
blunderfull
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“I've already sent an email to the county commissioners protesting his treatment- here's the form for Clallam county's general contact form- you can find the one specifically for their community development office on the same website.”
http://www.clallam.net/features/emailClallam.asp?em=general
YTubers steppin’ up for Leo
http://www.clallam.net/features/emailClallam.asp?em=general
YTubers steppin’ up for Leo
blunderfull
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On a smaller scale my boat projects have been subjected to rules, weird neighbors and economics. I feel for Leo but, as he says, he knew this going forward from the time they first showed up to hassle the shed details.
He’ll prolly lose in a hearing & then relocate to a better spot. Life will be better in the end for Leo.
Tally Ho!
He’ll prolly lose in a hearing & then relocate to a better spot. Life will be better in the end for Leo.
Tally Ho!
TwoLegged
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Wherever you go in the world these days, there is a Department of Don't Do Anything Interesting (DODDAI).
DODDAI never dares tackle the abuses of big business (esp the major polluters), because the big guys are lawyered up and politicianed up. So the bureaucrats go for the soft targets, i.e. the little people who have no lawyers and no compliance department. Belch crap out the chimney of your factory: no problem. But make a minor and inconsequential error in the size of your hardstanding or the config of your guttering, and Borg is coming your way.
Around my way, these enforcers are easily identifiable: they drive shiny, newish cars and wear expensive anoraks whilst harassing people in cheap wellies and tired overalls who use 15-year-old vehicles. We have phone trees and messaging groups to track the movements of DODDAI.
DODDAI never dares tackle the abuses of big business (esp the major polluters), because the big guys are lawyered up and politicianed up. So the bureaucrats go for the soft targets, i.e. the little people who have no lawyers and no compliance department. Belch crap out the chimney of your factory: no problem. But make a minor and inconsequential error in the size of your hardstanding or the config of your guttering, and Borg is coming your way.
Around my way, these enforcers are easily identifiable: they drive shiny, newish cars and wear expensive anoraks whilst harassing people in cheap wellies and tired overalls who use 15-year-old vehicles. We have phone trees and messaging groups to track the movements of DODDAI.
sledracr
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I'm curious how many of the other neighbors have "home based industry" issues. I'm gonna guess, for example, that any of them who raise livestock or grow hay or whatever, have both revenue and labor associated with their efforts. Probably noise (farm equipment) and "air pollution" (odors) as well.
Wonder if Leo can spark some of them to help him, as it helps them too.
Wonder if Leo can spark some of them to help him, as it helps them too.
Snaggletooth
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It mitte be me, butte you conserne dose notte semme 'genuine'. The 'shitt stirreng' seemes genuine................Cristoforo said:
sledracr
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Might be valid in a neighborhood (although, even in a neighborhood, people run can do things on their own property, even things that might disturb the quiet during daytime hours)Cristoforo said:
But this isn't a neighborhood, where you're 10 feet away while sitting on that deck. This is rural farmland. The nearest neighbor is 100 yards away, the next nearest close to twice that.
(this is not the actual locale, but... similar enough to illustrate the point)
If Leo's not doing the right paperwork (taxes on income, 1099s to independent contractors, etc) that's one thing, and fixable. But in an area surrounded by working farms and such, the nuisance complaints are bullshit. The property owner has every right to have a boat rebuilt on his property.
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familysailor
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Here is the video you are referring to:Cristoforo said:
You don't know Cristoforo very well, do you? I've had him on ignore for a long time. A shit stirrer is a polite way of describing him.It mitte be me, butte you conserne dose notte semme 'genuine'. The 'shitt stirreng' seemes genuine................
Snaggletooth
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Thisse made me laffe..................You don't know Cristoforo very well, do you? I've had him on ignore for a long time. A shit stirrer is a polite way of describing him.It mitte be me, butte you conserne dose notte semme 'genuine'. The 'shitt stirreng' seemes genuine................
